Ap Crisis A Pre-Planned Conspiracy?

[paampachak]

[quote name='TeluguPride' timestamp='1381353416' post='1304383085']
Having Telugu pride doesn't mean discriminating other cultures. Abhimanam veru durabhimanam veru.[b] Every successful civilization in this world grew because they preserved their language and culture[/b]. Many promoted and in some cases imposed their culture on others. Telugus never did that. Telugus were more of cultural receptors than donors.



Kani telugu vadu ane antam kada. Thella vallu manalni South Asian/Asian Indian antaru kada.
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This is the greatest myth of the world. Many cultures which were generated in different geographical conditions brought lot of problems in other lands because of implementing that culture in a place that misfits the basic rules of that geography. This is in depth the dfifference between AP and TN... AP people are more happy to have their land and money intact than their language. Tamilians are not as such

Best example is the film industry itself, AP never like to destabilize their kind of family culture that fits them where as TN are more inclined towards survival instincts... so are their attitudes ... language is not as important as you think. Successful civilization didn't preserve because of language.. if that is the case all Brazilians must be from Spain

[narsayya]

[quote name='arunachalam' timestamp='1381353841' post='1304383132']
This is the greatest myth of the world. Many cultures which were generated in different geographical conditions brought lot of problems in other lands because of implementing that culture in a place that misfits the basic rules of that geography. This is in depth the dfifference between AP and TN... AP people are more happy to have their land and money intact than their language. Tamilians are not as such

Best example is the film industry itself, AP never like to destabilize their kind of family culture that fits them where as TN are more inclined towards survival instincts... so are their attitudes ... language is not as important as you think. Successful civilization didn't preserve because of language.. if that is the case all Brazilians must be from Spain
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Interesting theory. But from casual observation, I'd say... atleast among my upper middle class crowd, telugus are more inclined to talk among themselves in telugu more than tamilians do in tamil. Most upper class tamils now speak with each other in English more than in Tamil.

I don't know if this is an important data point. Just my little observation.

[quaysideGuy]

[quote name='JabardasthJakkanna' timestamp='1381353836' post='1304383131']


I agree with ur statement that, TG ppl were definitely discriminated during early days of formation...may be until early 80's. But it has seen steep decline in that since then. For their political gains, these politicians have planted these discrimination again in the people's minds. We cannot deny the fact that, there are those discriinations still alive in certain departments, but not as strong that it becomes the main reason for the division.

There are more bigger problems than this discrimination with this bifurcation, I feel especially economic and geographical imbalance between both the regions. Which is quite dangerous, coming to attack..
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[narsayya]

[quote name='arunachalam' timestamp='1381353841' post='1304383132']
This is the greatest myth of the world. Many cultures which were generated in different geographical conditions brought lot of problems in other lands because of implementing that culture in a place that misfits the basic rules of that geography. This is in depth the dfifference between AP and TN... AP people are more happy to have their land and money intact than their language. Tamilians are not as such

Best example is the film industry itself, AP never like to destabilize their kind of family culture that fits them where as TN are more inclined towards survival instincts... so are their attitudes ... language is not as important as you think. Successful civilization didn't preserve because of language.. if that is the case all Brazilians must be from Spain
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If you are this enlightened, why should you deride Tamils? after all, they are only behaving in a way that their conditions allow them to. Plus they are so much more successful than Andhrites.

[paampachak]

[quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1381354124' post='1304383162']

Interesting theory. But from casual observation, I'd say... atleast among my upper middle class crowd, telugus are more inclined to talk among themselves in telugu more than tamilians do in tamil. Most upper class tamils now speak with each other in English more than in Tamil.

I don't know if this is an important data point. Just my little observation.
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I have seen a short film on this.. complete contrast between upper and middle class Tamilians
I didn't mean to say you are not Telugus, you people are because your families lived there.. but the real heat of administrative issues is faced by the person who lived there

[quaysideGuy]

[quote name='arunachalam' timestamp='1381353841' post='1304383132']
This is the greatest myth of the world. Many cultures which were generated in different geographical conditions brought lot of problems in other lands because of implementing that culture in a place that misfits the basic rules of that geography. This is in depth the dfifference between AP and TN... AP people are more happy to have their land and money intact than their language. Tamilians are not as such

Best example is the film industry itself, AP never like to destabilize their kind of family culture that fits them where as TN are more inclined towards survival instincts... so are their attitudes ... language is not as important as you think. [b]Successful civilization didn't preserve because of language.. if that is the case all Brazilians must be from Spain[/b]
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good one

[quaysideGuy]

[quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1381354232' post='1304383173']

If you are this enlightened, why should you deride Tamils? after all, they are only behaving in a way that their conditions allow them to. Plus they are so much more successful than Andhrites.
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They are united!

[narsayya]

[quote name='arunachalam' timestamp='1381353841' post='1304383132']
This is the greatest myth of the world. Many cultures which were generated in different geographical conditions brought lot of problems in other lands because of implementing that culture in a place that misfits the basic rules of that geography. This is in depth the dfifference between AP and TN... AP people are more happy to have their land and money intact than their language. Tamilians are not as such

Best example is the film industry itself, AP never like to destabilize their kind of family culture that fits them where as TN are more inclined towards survival instincts... so are their attitudes ... language is not as important as you think. Successful civilization didn't preserve because of language.. if that is the case all Brazilians must be from Spain
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So do you think, this TG separation will change Andhra's psyche or make many of them leave Andhra for better pastures? Especially when TG constructs dams and obstructs water and dries up the free money that was flowing all this while into Andhra through agriculture.

[JabardasthJakkanna]

[quote name='arunachalam' timestamp='1381353841' post='1304383132']
This is the greatest myth of the world. Many cultures which were generated in different geographical conditions brought lot of problems in other lands because of implementing that culture in a place that misfits the basic rules of that geography. This is in depth the dfifference between AP and TN... AP people are more happy to have their land and money intact than their language. Tamilians are not as such

Best example is the film industry itself, AP never like to destabilize their kind of family culture that fits them where as TN are more inclined towards survival instincts... so are their attitudes ... language is not as important as you think. Successful civilization didn't preserve because of language.. if that is the case all Brazilians must be from Spain
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Definitely there is a point in this argument, I would say language definitely played a crucial role in building up the communities and thus civilizations, but civilizations established for various reasons, and each got it's own backbone reason to it. But I would say as far as culture is concerned their beliefs and language played vital role.

Tamils and Telugus are rich in cultures in their own senses, but different senses. In my perspective Telugu ppl are more civilization oriented (Outlook and materialistic) and Tamilians are more culturally rooted ( as in lang centric, behavior wise...)

[quaysideGuy]

[quote name='OngoleGitta' timestamp='1381351618' post='1304382769']
I don't know what is ur actual intention behind this post, But for sure Congress is digging its own grave. All the Media and people are saying or under impression of JAGAN is going to support CONGRESS,,,,,,,,It is a big uncertain to decide at this point of time. WHO KNOW'S WHO WILL COME CLOSER TO POWER IN CENTER IN 2014. If BJP comes closer, JAGAN will join BJP to avoid cases and CBI. Same with Congress too,,, All this old sick congress bull ass heads are not understanding this. CBI can be misused by the party who ever in power. This is an open secret.

Common Educate ur self boys,,,,,,,,,,VOTE FOR TDP,,,,,,
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I am neutral. My intention behind posting this is to check how many people in this DB think this way. I think every major issue is politically motivated. Yes, as of now I support TDP+BJP. I don't think Jagan will support BJP as the actual concept of the YSRCP operation itself is to keep TDP & BJP out of power.

[JabardasthJakkanna]

[quote name='TeluguPride' timestamp='1381354774' post='1304383256']
I am neutral. Cuz every issue is politically motivated. Yes, as of now I am with TDP. I don't think Jagan will support BJP as the actual concept of the YSRCP operation itself is to keep TDP & BJP out of power.
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I don't think so.....actual motto of YSRCP is to see that they safeguard their illegally procured money and assets. It wouldnt surprise me if they support BJP at the center. From the recent talks of jagan, its clear. He said I want Modi to make BJP secular. This is a clear indication, he can jump on to any side. Politically in any case, they ll not support TDP.

[quaysideGuy]

[quote name='JabardasthJakkanna' timestamp='1381354745' post='1304383253']


Definitely there is a point in this argument, I would say language definitely played a crucial role in building up the communities and thus civilizations, but civilizations established for various reasons, and each got it's own backbone reason to it. But I would say as far as culture is concerned their beliefs and language played vital role.

Tamils and Telugus are rich in cultures in their own senses, but different senses. In my perspective Telugu ppl are more civilization oriented (Outlook and materialistic) and Tamilians are more culturally rooted ( as in lang centric, behavior wise...)
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I think Telugus are more liberal than Tamils

[KadapaKingg]

[quote name='TeluguPride' timestamp='1381354774' post='1304383256']
I am neutral. My intention behind posting this is to check how many people in this DB think this way. I think every major issue is politically motivated. Yes, as of now I support TDP+BJP.[color=#ff0000] I don't think Jagan will support BJP as the actual concept of the YSRCP operation itself is to keep TDP & BJP out of power.[/color]
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TDP ok but why BJP.. He just needs the support of the party in Center.. Right now it is congress but tomorrow if BJP is in power he may sail towards BJP..

Even after so many discussions BJP is still thinking twice about forming an alliance with TDP and even if it does it's only going to be till elections.. After elections it's all a number game.. Every one wants to sail with the winning horses..

[JabardasthJakkanna]

[quote name='TeluguPride' timestamp='1381355001' post='1304383291']
I think Telugus are more liberal than Tamils
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Yes, that's the whole point. One who is culturally inclined (there is nothing wrong in this...it's just an other way living life) is not easy to be liberal.

[quaysideGuy]

[quote name='JabardasthJakkanna' timestamp='1381354977' post='1304383289']

I don't think so.....actual motto of YSRCP is to see that they safeguard their illegally procured money and assets. It wouldnt surprise me if they support BJP at the center. From the recent talks of jagan, its clear. [b]He said I want Modi to make BJP secular. [/b]This is a clear indication, he can jump on to any side. Politically in any case, they ll not support TDP.
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I think the actual intention behind this comment is to indicate that BJP is not secular