India Overreacting For An Corrupted Officer

[narsayya]

Again, I want to repeat.

 

Two things are clear here. One you guys don't give f*8k to the human life and then you guys don't know the sanctity of rule of law. It is because we Indian are deprived of these two. And we don't know the true meaning of these two. Until, the folks are driven by pure emotions without any logic, they are doomed to be fuc*ed by exploiters. Good luck.

 

The weaker people shouldn't be exploited based on their circumstances (be it financial or any other). That was the reason they implemented the strict labor laws in the U.S or EU. If we support these types of scums, tomorrow, we will face the problems from the American people when we go to work there. Again, I stress that I am supporting the maid. Not the U.S. Period.

 

Look at each and every case based on its flaws and merits. Don't go by simple emotions.

 

sanctity of rule of law.. lol

 

you should tell this to blacks, latinos who are routinely rounded up in NY.

 

Also don't forget to meet the parents of Trayvon Martin who was killed by a whiter male who got away with it, with the atrocious defence that he fired for self defence.

[narsayya]

in a relation..if we fight for a so stupid thing.it means one of the ppls involved is insane.that relation will break down then n there..!!

 

countries are not people in love.

 

They are in a relationship for each other's benefit.

 

Now ask what US gains by arresting a diplomat? and what would India lose if it doesn't protest? 

[coca-cola]

The law of the land will punish. Not India or the U.S. If she committed the crime in the U.S, she should be punished in the U.S. I really don't think she will be punished in India for many reasons. Her political proximity to the many big ones.

 

She already got a  non-bailable arrest warrant against the maid. The warrant was forwarded to the US embassy with an official request to arrest the woman and facilitate her repatriation. Don;t think that she will be punished in India easily. She has already committed many crimes in India, but was never punished in India. Be glad that she paying now else where.

peeekinaav theeeyy us gurinchi cheptheee ....

[southyx]

Quite clearly Indian Embassy let this get out of hand, and should have been proactive on this. They are incompetent and must be fired..

 

The flashpoint probably was, the delaying tactics by an Indian visa officer few weeks back to issue visa to gay diplomats from the US, which left US embassy red faced.

 

That's why I say, this issue is not about human rights or law of land or anything. Its a simple tiiit for tat between Indian and US embassy..

 

Btw, I'm not supporting the lady. She's immaterial. Its about US flexing its muscle above and beyond what countries regularly do with diplomats. They have no business arresting her, and claiming some sort of moral superiority by lecturing india about law of the land. 

 

This is what countries regularly do.. Whatever happens, Never touch the diplomat. Underpaying a maid seems a minor transgression compared to what US diplomats were accused of in foreign countries recently.

 

Also, if US arrested Devyani just to get her to leave NY eventually because they felt she was abusing their laws, Its not a well thought out move.

 

Bottomline, There's no case against Devyani.. She'll be offered retroactive immunity or the facts of the case will be muddled during trial. If not, life of US diplomats in other countries will become bit harder.

 

No, I will tell you the difference, the U.S has every right here to protect the rights of the maid as she came on the U.S work visa not on the embassy staff visa. If the maid had come on the Indian embassy staff visa (or as the personal staff of the diplomat), U.S may not have much leverage to pursue. But here, Devyani has given in very well into the whole thing (that's why I hate reservations in a few crucial posts, their incompetency will cost their lives, just like how it happened now). And this guy Preet Bahrahrah who is ready to use this for his personal political gains took it very well. Once, the case is judiciary system of the U.S, it would be difficult to get away.   I doubt that the retroactive immunity will help her considerably. She has married an Indian-American. Even with or without retroactive immunity, she has to come back to India, costing her family life or her American dream life.

 

[southyx]

yeah, lets round up all Indian scamsters and send them to US and let US courts try them there. Brilliant Idea.

 

But I have a better one.. Invite British, China, Pak and surrender pieces of India to them.

 

No, I don't want to invite the Brits, Chines and Pakis. I will be very happy if the scums and scamasters of the country are thrown out. The country will be left for the good ones. The country should belong to the people who deserve not to the one who loot day and night.

[peru_edaite_enti]

guess we have more brownies here then Preet Bharara..... congratulations skinny for becoming more american than american...

[narsayya]

No, I will tell you the difference, the U.S has every right here to protect the rights of the maid as she came on the U.S work visa not on the embassy staff visa. If the maid had come on the Indian embassy staff visa (or as the personal staff of the diplomat), U.S may not have much leverage to pursue. But here, Devyani has given in very well into the whole thing (that's why I hate reservations at least in a few crucial posts, their incompetency will cost their lives, just like how it happened now). And this guy Preet Bahrahrah who is ready to use this for his personal political gains took it very well. Once, the case is judiciary system of the U.S, it would be difficult to get away.   I doubt that the retroactive immunity will help her considerably. She has married an Indian-American. Even with or without retroactive immunity, she has to come back to India, costing her family life or her American dream life.

 

another absurd argument.

 

work visa meedha ochina vallandariki ee soukaryam provide chesthara US lo? This is clearly a political move to shame Indian Embassy and expose their stupidity. Anyway, she did come as the embassy staff visa, and not on work visa.

 

This could've been done without arresting Devyani.. Anthe.. Just like what happened last year with Neena Malhotra.. who paid damages to her maid after a court case. something like that. 

 

Even then the maid will lose the case, because Devyani can claim that her boarding and lodging costs cover her mentioned salary and more. Also note, that the case against Devyani is visa fraud. that's the only thing that is provable in court, because Devyani signed a contract with her maid on good faith. this 19hr work per day is simply not provable. It's maid's word against Devyani's. The case is so weak. Unless the maid has visible marks of physical torture or some such.

 

As far as i see, I don't think she's at fault. The maid is simply too clever and has been advised well on her actions. And good for her, she's got her green card. Now Devyani must be released from the case.

 

Anyway, I don't care about Devyani's American dream life. I only worry what will be the status of indian diplomats in other countries if India lets US prosecute her. 

[narsayya]

No, I don't want to invite the Brits, Chines and Pakis. I will be very happy if the scums and scamasters of the country are thrown out. The country will be left for the good ones. The country should belong to the people who deserve not to the one who loot day and night.

 

every country has them. Not a good reason to let foreign governments lecture India.

 

Throw scamsters out, new ones will emerge. iterate.. and no one will be left in India. The wonderland of the pure you imagine doesn't exist anywhere on earth.

 

India's problem is not scamsters, but lack of good policy wonks and administrators. And energy resources.

[Friends_Forever]

EE Post ki reply chesina valla lo evadiyna corruption cheyakunda vunnavadu vunnada...

 

Once in a life time...

 

Okka indian embasy officer ni ala chesina vallu repu ninnu chestey thelustundhi bhayya.....

[chinna333]

Bokkem kaadhu.

1. She went to US EMBASSY in New Delhi and signed legal papers under oath and she breached the oath.
2. Indian Embassy was informed by US attorney general office PRIOR TO HER ARREST, and Indian Embassy did not act upon it.
3. There is nowhere in Geneva convention rules say, YOU CAN LIE UNDER OATH AND GIVE FRAUDULENT INFORMATION AND YOU WILL STILL BE IMMUNE TO THE ARREST UNDER DIPLOMATIC STATUS.
4. The procedure was followed and arrest was made according to the US LAW.
5. Strip check and DNA swab is a normal process before criminal is locked up. It applies to everyone in the US, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.
6. She was released within 2 hours after the bail was arranged by her attorney, and legal proceedings will continue until her guilt or innocence will be decided in court of law.
7. Her guilt or innocence will be decided based on the testimony of the MAID.

The case is very interesting because what she did, she and India feels very upset. Where as it appears USA has followed all the proper rules and procedures for such an arrest, and probably did their home work, like proper investigation and so on, This mentality that you break the law, and you think you will get away with it because you belong to a upper class, is at question. Her father is also a diplomate, and she claims to be champion of the women rights, but pays her maid $3.00 an hour, and GOD knows how many hours maid works daily. She is claiming diplomatic immunity, but US is saying immunity applies only to the diplomatic job related crimes. Is this a diplomatic related job conduct. Let us see, how it ends.

American procedures are so brutal at the time of booking(Arresting ) someone under a crime no matter what the magnitude of the crime is they do take of the clothing of the person booked and r put in a dark isolated room traumatizing the person so that he or she gives up and follow their procedures in place .

Super... GP

[Always21]

Punishing her will be a good lesson for people who bring people from india for working in their restaurants and for other purposes and pay them low wages. I seen indian restaurants let their staff live in horrible conditions

[narsayya]

Punishing her will be a good lesson for people who bring people from india for working in their restaurants and for other purposes and pay them low wages. I seen indian restaurants let their staff live in horrible conditions

 

and what stopped you from reporting it to immigration authorities? lol

 

cowardice enni rakaluga bayatapaduthundo choodalante interesting ga undhi.

[Friends_Forever]

and what stopped you from reporting it to immigration authorities? lol

 

cowardice enni rakaluga bayatapaduthundo choodalante interesting ga undhi.

 

Always21 

 

Then in that case you will be the first in line to get you life in ....By showing your documents in US embasy while getting a visa. I guess you have to remember your past before you reply

[narsayya]

Then in that case you will be the first in line to get you life in ....By showing your documents in US embasy while getting a visa. I guess you have to remember your past before you reply

 

okay.. I was trying to poke fun at that guy :P

 

you and I are on the same side on this, man :)

[Always21]

and what stopped you from reporting it to immigration authorities? lol

cowardice enni rakaluga bayatapaduthundo choodalante interesting ga undhi.

Bhayya koncham practical ga alichinchandi. If suppose I report it will make their life even miserable. What I am trying to say is atleast people will fear before filing fraud visas for maids and making them work for low wages.