What Do Vedas Say About Homosexuality?

[Spartan]

According to Mastya Purana, Lord Vishnu took a form of Enchantress Mohini to trick the demons. However, when Lord Shiva saw Vishnu as Mohini, he was instantly in love. The union between the Gods manifested a child - Lord Ayyappa. Hari is one of the names of Vishnu and Hara is one of the names of Shiva. In Hindu worshiping, when Vishnu and Shiva are worshiped together, they are called Hari-Hara. The prayers dedicated to Hari-Hara describe Hari (Vishnu) and Hara (Shiva) as a male couple.

[Spartan]

The Ramayana also has a story about homosexuality. Once there was a king named Dilip, he had two wives, but he died without leaving an heir. One day Lord Shiva appeared in the dream of King’s widows and said they will have a child if they made love together. The queens made love and one day one of the queens gave birth to a child. The child grew to become a great King Bhagiratha, who brought River Ganges from the heaven to the earth.

[Spartan]

There is an overwhelming presence of homosexual iconography in Hinduism. Hindu art in sculptures, carvings, and paintings represent copulation between the same sexes. Since Hindu religion and philosophy treats sexuality as pleasure and fertility, erotic carvings are highly revered. Erotic sculptures, carvings and paintings are significant aspect of Hindu Temples. In Kama Sutra, the Hindu book on sexuality, homosexuality is considered permissible in some communities and forbidden in others.

[Spartan]

To obtain a clear understanding of human sexuality, behavior, and practice, one is advised to consult the Kama Shastra, which thoroughly covers this field. It is within these texts where the most information is found regarding the third sex and its members, behavior, practices and roles within society. A brief description will be given here, taken mostly from the eighth and ninth chapters of the second part of the Kama Sutra…

[Spartan]

People of the third sex (tritiya-prakriti) are of two kinds, according to whether their appearance is masculine or feminine. (Kama Sutra 2.9.1). Members of the third sex are first categorized according to whether their physical characteristics are either male or female. These are known as kliba, or gay males, and svairini, or lesbians. Each of these categories is then divided into two, depending upon whether their behavior is either masculine or feminine. They are then further divided into many subcategories.

[Spartan]

Homosexual people are the most prominent members of the third sex. While appearing as ordinary males and females, their third-nature identity is revealed by their exclusive romantic and sexual attraction for persons of the same physical sex. Gay men experience the attractions ordinarily felt by females, and lesbian women experience the attractions ordinarily felt by males. Such people commonly exhibit other types of “cross-gender” behavior, but not always.

[Spartan]

Under the heading of tritiya-prakriti, or people of the third sex, the lesbian is first described in the chapter of the Kama Sutra concerning aggressive behavior in women (purushayita). The Sanskrit word svairini refers to an independent or liberated woman who has refused a husband, earns her own livelihood, and lives either alone or in marriage with another woman. Her various types of homosexual behavior and practices are described in great detail within this chapter.

[Spartan]

The word kliba can refer to any type of impotent man, but in this instance it is specifically used to describe men who are completely impotent with women due to their homosexual nature. Gay men with feminine qualities are the most recognizable members of the third sex. For this reason, they have often kept their own societies within all cultures of the world.

[Spartan]

Let me now address whether our shastras or scriptures have any strictures against homosexuality (tritiya-prakriti). The Rigveda says “Vikruti Evam Prakriti” (diversity is what nature is all about) but it stops short just there. Srimad Bhagavatam has also made references to homosexuals [Canto 3.20.23-37]. Homosexuality is said to have existed since the dawn of creation. But the Bhagavatam does not explicitly describe nor proscribe it.

[Spartan]

n Manusmriti, however, engaging in homosexuality (of all varieties) is put down as a sin: Chap 8:369-370 prescribe the punishment for lesbian conduct; ibid (Chap 11:68 & 175) proscribe male homosexuality. Narada Smriti condemns “irsyaka, sevyaka, vataretas and mukhebhaga”.

[Spartan]

None of the sacred Hindu text contains a straightforward condemnation of homosexuality. Tritiya prakriti or “third sex” is the group most homosexuals identify themselves with. In the Sutras, which are supplemental writings to the Vedas, third sex citizens are described as a natural mixing of male and female to the point that one can no longer distinguish between the two. The Sutras seem to support the contention that homosexuality was somewhat acceptable in ancient times.

[paampachak]

Within the Srimad Bhagavatam there are a few lines (Canto 3, Ch.20 Text 23, 24 & 26) that describe Brahma's creation of a group of demons that became obsessed with sex and demanded sex from him, but then he became frightened and ran away from them. Opponents of homosexuality believe this proves that homosexual behaviour is lustful and evil. Proponents of homosexuality argue that the demons were the children of Brahma, and that this story teaches that incest is lustful and evil

 

Frankly I haven't seen a homosexual in my life, though I have seen transgenders. Only I will see one then I will be able to comment. What causes homosexuality, may be restricting too much to societal norms might change the genes (just a theory)

[Maximus]

already read myan..

[bombaypriyudu]

 

In modern times, there has been much controversy concerning the position and rights of gay and other third-gender groups within society. Should they be feared and eliminated as a harmful, corruptive force? Should they be ignored and hidden away? Or should they be welcomed as simply another colour of human variety? The answer to these questions can be found in some mythological mentions and ancient Vedic literatures. Let’s explore…

 

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