vagaru Posted September 18, 2014 Author Report Posted September 18, 2014 no body knows wt happened fr sure , there are only a lot of theories ..... some ppl even say that Rama's vanavaasa is an inside plot by the aryans to conquer south asia , because no matter how hard they tried it was imossible fr the aryans to conquer south asia untill rama came along , he gained immense popularity of the masses and sided with a lot of rebels to kill ravana after which the arayans got the control of all of Asia at that time ......some ppl say the whole Aryan invasion thing is false .. but no one knows wt exactly happened ravana kuda was from north yee.. he went and conquered srilanka and established his kingdom..
vagaru Posted September 18, 2014 Author Report Posted September 18, 2014 i read abt it long time bk bhaiyya ...different theories abt aryan invasion ani ,,, i tried to search nw bt couldn't find anything related i know aryan invasion is contro.. but my question is whether sanskrit was ours or not.. oka veela kakapothe then vedas manavi kaavu ane bhayyam..
Spartan Posted September 18, 2014 Report Posted September 18, 2014 no body knows wt happened fr sure , there are only a lot of theories ..... some ppl even say that Rama's vanavaasa is an inside plot by the aryans to conquer south asia , because no matter how hard they tried it was imossible fr the aryans to conquer south asia untill rama came along , he gained immense popularity of the masses and sided with a lot of rebels to kill ravana after which the arayans got the control of all of Asia at that time ......some ppl say the whole Aryan invasion thing is false .. but no one knows wt exactly happened Hmmm.. intersting. I need do some reading on this topic. Any help with Sources?? http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/ancient/aryan/aryan_frawley.html
ravana Posted September 18, 2014 Report Posted September 18, 2014 thelusthe konchem cheppandi man yevaraina.. google chesthe mathram , adhi india-aryan language and could be mostly IRANIAN origin because it is almost same as their old irain language called Avestan ani undhii. oka veela adhi nijam ayithe, then VEDA's kuda manam rayanatle gaa meaning??? no contro's , just thelusukuntanii..... @3$% @3$% @3$% ni logic ela vundhi ante english lo edi rasina englishode rasinattu kadu brother veda's evadu raste emundhi le kani danilo matter important, a matter mida focus pettu
SUbba LIngam Posted September 18, 2014 Report Posted September 18, 2014 could be but there are many theories.. nenu konchem worried because sanskrit manam develop chesinam ani anukunna inni rojuluu.. I want to know the truth anthe... also sanskrit is litle close to english anta, but indian languages ki mathram assalu related ledhu anta sanskrit.. anta anta endi vayya, aadevado chepte anni nammeyadamena,,,,,,, telugu, hindi, Gujarati etc langs anni ekkada nunchi vachinayi anukuntunnav
donganaaK Posted September 18, 2014 Report Posted September 18, 2014 http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/ancient/aryan/aryan_frawley.html cool bro..thnx
vagaru Posted September 18, 2014 Author Report Posted September 18, 2014 @3$% @3$% @3$% ni logic ela vundhi ante english lo edi rasina englishode rasinattu kadu brother veda's evadu raste emundhi le kani danilo matter important, a matter mida focus pettu english ante manam nerchukuntunnam.. ut vedas are very ancient ani antarugaa adhi doubt..
donganaaK Posted September 18, 2014 Report Posted September 18, 2014 i knowaryan invasion is contro.. but my question is whether sanskrit was ours or not.. oka veela kakapothe then vedas manavi kaavu ane bhayyam.. sanskrit has forever been considered as an indian origin language .... actually nuvvu vesina theory first time vintunna
micxas Posted September 18, 2014 Report Posted September 18, 2014 Ts, According to sanatana dharma " vedam apourusheyam" it was written by brahmma (in sanskrit) and given to the rest, we can call it smruti(sanskrit word). So if you believe in god believe they were originated in bhartavarsha(India), sankrit is gods language according to the scriptures :)
ChampakDas Posted September 18, 2014 Report Posted September 18, 2014 interesting source pls? no body knows wt happened fr sure , there are only a lot of theories ..... some ppl even say that Rama's vanavaasa is an inside plot by the aryans to conquer south asia , because no matter how hard they tried it was imossible fr the aryans to conquer south asia untill rama came along , he gained immense popularity of the masses and sided with a lot of rebels to kill ravana after which the arayans got the control of all of Asia at that time ......some ppl say the whole Aryan invasion thing is false .. but no one knows wt exactly happened
donganaaK Posted September 18, 2014 Report Posted September 18, 2014 interesting source pls? i read it long time ago bhaiyya , while reading abt aryan invasion ...... indaka search chesa fr that source but couldnt find it ..
Spartan Posted September 18, 2014 Report Posted September 18, 2014 Bhatnagar provides the following quote from the Ramayana: “Rama was born on the Navami tithi of Shukla Paksha of Chaitra masa (9th day of the increasing phase of the moon in the lunar month of Chaitra). At that time, the nakshatra was Punarvasu, and Sun, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and Venus were in Aries, Capricorn, Libra, Cancer and Pisces respectively. Lagna was Cancer and Jupiter & Moon were shining together. — Ramayana 1.18.8,9 The conditions can be summarized as follows, according to Bhatnagar: 1. Sun in Aries 2. Saturn in Libra 3. Jupiter in Cancer 4. Venus in Pisces 5. Mars in Capricorn 6. Lunar month of Chaitra 7. 9th day after New Moon (Navami Tithi, Shukla Paksh) 8. Moon near Punarvasu Nakshatra (Pollux star in Gemini constellation) 9. Cancer as Lagna (Cancer constellation rising in the east) 10. Jupiter above the horizon According to the Planetarium software, it provides the following date: Sri Rama Navami - 10th January 5114 BCE - Birth Day of Rama, Observation at 12.30 p.m. Bhatnagar continues: “By using a powerful planetarium software, I found that the planetary positions mentioned in Ramayana for the date of birth of Lord Ram had occurred in the sky at around 12.30 p.m. of 10th January 5114 BC. It was the ninth day of the Shukla Paksh of Chaitra month too. Moving forward, after 25 years of the birth of Lord Ram, the position of planets in the sky tallies with their description in Ramayana. Again, on the amavasya (new moon) of the 10th month of the 13th year of exile the solar eclipse had indeed occurred and the particular arrangement of planets in the sky was visible. ( Date comes to 7th October, 5077 BC). Even the occurrence of subsequent two eclipses also tally with the respective description in Valmiki Ramayana. (Date of Hanuman’s meeting Sita at Lanka was 12th September, 5076 BC). In this manner the entire sequence of the planetary positions gets verified and all the dates can be precisely determined.” Although this provides verification of the existence for Lord Rama according to calculations as given in the Ramayana, some people feel the timing for the day and year of His birth may be different than what the planetarium software indicates. For example, Vedic astrologer Nartaka Gopala devi dasi points out that "Regarding the calculation of Lord Rama’s birth as 10th of January 5114 BCE - Birth Day of Rama, Observation at 12.30 PM, there are 2 reasons why this cannot be correct. His rising sign, or lagna, is Cancer. That places Aries in the tenth house, and He has the Sun in Aries. The placement of the Sun in any birth chart will tell the time of day of the birth. Sun in the tenth house means birth at noontime (approx. 11 AM to 2 PM). There are no exceptions to this. (Lord Krishna appeared at midnight, the Sun is in Leo, 4th house for Taurus rising. Birth at 6 PM means 7th house Sun. Birth at sunrise means 1st house Sun.) Also, in Lord Rama’s chart the Sun is in Aries, and the dates for Sun in Aries are fixed, which means the same each year on April 14th to May 13th. So how did the January 10 date come up? These two Jyotish corrections are common sense that any Vedic astrologer would immediately see." So there may be a difference in what the planetarium software suggests. This also corroborates why we who follow the Vedic calendar celebrate Lord Rama's appearance in April-May each year. So the traditional date appears accurate.
micxas Posted September 18, 2014 Report Posted September 18, 2014 :3D_Smiles: Bhatnagar provides the following quote from the Ramayana: “Rama was born on the Navami tithi of Shukla Paksha of Chaitra masa (9th day of the increasing phase of the moon in the lunar month of Chaitra). At that time, the nakshatra was Punarvasu, and Sun, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and Venus were in Aries, Capricorn, Libra, Cancer and Pisces respectively. Lagna was Cancer and Jupiter & Moon were shining together. — Ramayana 1.18.8,9 The conditions can be summarized as follows, according to Bhatnagar: 1. Sun in Aries 2. Saturn in Libra 3. Jupiter in Cancer 4. Venus in Pisces 5. Mars in Capricorn 6. Lunar month of Chaitra 7. 9th day after New Moon (Navami Tithi, Shukla Paksh) 8. Moon near Punarvasu Nakshatra (Pollux star in Gemini constellation) 9. Cancer as Lagna (Cancer constellation rising in the east) 10. Jupiter above the horizon According to the Planetarium software, it provides the following date: Sri Rama Navami - 10th January 5114 BCE - Birth Day of Rama, Observation at 12.30 p.m. Bhatnagar continues: “By using a powerful planetarium software, I found that the planetary positions mentioned in Ramayana for the date of birth of Lord Ram had occurred in the sky at around 12.30 p.m. of 10th January 5114 BC. It was the ninth day of the Shukla Paksh of Chaitra month too. Moving forward, after 25 years of the birth of Lord Ram, the position of planets in the sky tallies with their description in Ramayana. Again, on the amavasya (new moon) of the 10th month of the 13th year of exile the solar eclipse had indeed occurred and the particular arrangement of planets in the sky was visible. ( Date comes to 7th October, 5077 BC). Even the occurrence of subsequent two eclipses also tally with the respective description in Valmiki Ramayana. (Date of Hanuman’s meeting Sita at Lanka was 12th September, 5076 BC). In this manner the entire sequence of the planetary positions gets verified and all the dates can be precisely determined.” Although this provides verification of the existence for Lord Rama according to calculations as given in the Ramayana, some people feel the timing for the day and year of His birth may be different than what the planetarium software indicates. For example, Vedic astrologer Nartaka Gopala devi dasi points out that "Regarding the calculation of Lord Rama’s birth as 10th of January 5114 BCE - Birth Day of Rama, Observation at 12.30 PM, there are 2 reasons why this cannot be correct. His rising sign, or lagna, is Cancer. That places Aries in the tenth house, and He has the Sun in Aries. The placement of the Sun in any birth chart will tell the time of day of the birth. Sun in the tenth house means birth at noontime (approx. 11 AM to 2 PM). There are no exceptions to this. (Lord Krishna appeared at midnight, the Sun is in Leo, 4th house for Taurus rising. Birth at 6 PM means 7th house Sun. Birth at sunrise means 1st house Sun.) Also, in Lord Rama’s chart the Sun is in Aries, and the dates for Sun in Aries are fixed, which means the same each year on April 14th to May 13th. So how did the January 10 date come up? These two Jyotish corrections are common sense that any Vedic astrologer would immediately see." So there may be a difference in what the planetarium software suggests. This also corroborates why we who follow the Vedic calendar celebrate Lord Rama's appearance in April-May each year. So the traditional date appears accurate.
vagaru Posted September 18, 2014 Author Report Posted September 18, 2014 okasaari, sanskrit origin ani google cheyyandi..adhi non indian ani vasthunayi links loo..adhe artham kavatle naaaku..
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