Why I Won't Go Back To India.

[afrnds]

Hehe...account eppudo create chesa kaani..eppudu use cheyaledu....ippude password reset cheskoni ee post vesaa..

edo tp..

 

account name ki match ayye posts padaledani wait chesava inni rojulu?

 

 

But, baagaane paduthunnaye, okadu Hinduism, "Hindus andaru manakendukule anukunte ela", ani vesthaadu, inkodu....inkoti vesthadu....

 

 

 

[vaade_veedu]

racism is not such a big problem for me.

For eg. in Canada, there's no such visible depressed minority. A new immigrant may work in jobs way below his level of education. But new immigrants are not conditioned to do dangerous jobs, or jobs that take away their dignity.

In UK, though there is a visible depressed minority, Muslims. It's very easy to skirt your way around in conversations with them without offending them.

I find it hard to do that with black people.

my problem is, I want to be racist (a little, and only for fun), but its difficult to be that in the US.

I don't have to go to Mars to avoid a brainwashed victim and a belligerent victim.

In India's case, I feel guilty. In the US case, I am afraid of offending them.

 

common sense - wherever life becomes uninhabitable humans know the value of life

[ROCK_STAR]

ppl like u cant be comfortable where ever in the universe bro

 

my reply may b harsh but its fact

[vaade_veedu]

:o .. Why don't you take it as their job? Okaru akkada velli fix chesaaru antae okaru had to work if it has issues right?
We can expect a guy hanging out from
Helicopter to do that in India .. If we had to talk about whose mistake is that we have to go back to roots of it .. So especially if we talk about India I am much more worried about kids of 5 years of age who work in Brick batties, constructing houses .. All together child labor sucks!! But 15 years kind changed your way of thinking about India antae that sucks!

dude how can one send his son to die ? It is disgusting than child labor

 

[vaade_veedu]

US blacks are a lot more sensitive to racial issues, than blacks from Africa, Carribean, Europe.

I always enjoy offending people, but not the underclass who are already suffering from injustices in a system.

so while I'd enjoy a conversation with a white man in the US, the conversation with black man will likely be me agreeing to everything he'd say.

There are other countries in the world where such visible underclasses don't exist. So I have the option to opt out of US.

 

I like kaale log ...they are the most helpful people I have seen in my entirelife ! no wonder they succumbed to slavery

[gargicau]

People like you have romantic notions about the downtrodden and the poor. You have a need to romanticize everything they do in life and from your vantage point see it as something that they do because of the oppression from the higher ups in society.
Even I used to think the same but after a lot of interaction with people from the working class that you referred to in your incident, I realized that they don't think of it that way. In fact they can't afford to in their situation. You and me can afford the luxury of sitting in front of a laptop and sipping hot mugs of coffee and thinking about a lot of things and intellectualize them.
Telugu lo cheppalante kadupu nindinodi maatalu ivanni.....akali meeda unnapudu eve neethulu cheppu appudu chuddam.... Vallu avi alochincharu bathakalante edo okati cheyali...
You say you just want a casual banter where you can pass cheeky statements against/for a section of people and when they don't take it in a manner that you expect them to it bothers you. On the other hand (in case of the oppressed in India) you can mostly get away by doing that but you won't want to. And infact you want to sympathize with them and as I said romanticize the situation. 
You sound like the many people I listen to on the TV debates who want the poor to remain poor so that you can sympathize with them from a distance without trying to do anything to help them and the moment someone from that section stands up against stereotyping them and their lifestyle it bothers you. 
You want them to feel miserable about their lives and that they should not find dignity in what they chose/had to choose to do for a living.
You never cared to think what the father and the son think about their line of work. May be they feel proud of what they do and find dignity in it.
I am not saying they shouldn't aim for a better life. 
If a kid from a well to do family does a feat that would involve something like standing on the rooftop without any protective steps - just for the heck of it or some record - you will not show any sympathy towards that kid. Just because he is not doing it out of a compulsion to make a living will not make it any less dangerous. But the context totally changes the way you look at it.
 
 
I follow this DB regularly and mostly these kind of posts. But I never participate because nothing comes out of these kind of debates/arguments.
Ee post kuda utta timepass ki esthunna. Nuvu nee opinion/POV marchukovu - nenu naadi marchukonu. Naa drustilo oorike janala meeda Jaali chupichi vallani edo mee bathukulu intha goranga unnay ani - vallani athma nunyatha bhavaniki lonu cheyadam tappu. Let them decide if they are happy in what they are doing or they want to revolt against the systems that make them choose what they are doing for a living.

you don't have to insult me by comparing me with people who shout on TV.

But your argument is strange, especially the part where you expect me to feel equally bad for an idiotic rich kid who does that stunt.

Forget dignity, what about safety.

I was reminded of this, because in my recent trip to Chennai, I still noticed a couple of a/c outdoor units being installed in the outside wall of the terrace 100ft above the ground.

onguthunnadu ani, ongabedthune undachu antunnava?

[vaade_veedu]

you don't have to insult me by comparing me with people who shout on TV.

But your argument is strange, especially the part where you expect me to feel equally bad for an idiotic rich kid who does that stunt.

Forget dignity, what about safety.

I was reminded of this, because in my recent trip to Chennai, I still noticed a couple of a/c outdoor units being installed in the outside wall of the terrace 100ft above the ground.

onguthunnadu ani, ongabedthune undachu antunnava?

 

ppl who hate intellect etc are just simply unable to break ego leave it

[gargicau]

Cheppaga ...em radu podu ...
Kadupu nindina beraalam manam ...edo okati vaagali kada.
 
basic needs anni satisfy aipoyaka (kudu,battalu,illu, ,pelli etc) ...mana jignyasa and telivi thetalu satisfy cheskovali...ila edo topic meeda alochinchi -- edo raasesthe oo panipothundi...idi oka rakamaina akali anthe...

why so cynical?

the more the number of people who think about basic safety issues (whether they link it to caste like me or not), the more likely laws against such practices will come to fruition.

[afrnds]

why so cynical?

the more the number of people who think about basic safety issues (whether they link it to caste like me or not), the more likely laws against such practices will come to fruition.

 

leave him man, but answer my question...

[tokkale]

Ledu....onguthunnavadiki kosam edo okati cheyakunda...oorike jaali chupichi...ilanti chota gonthu chinchikoni em labham ledu...

situations and life in general are complex....nuvu chusina okka situation batti edo decide aipodam kastam....

safety matters kani em chestharu....aa pani safa kaadu ani maaneyaledu kada.....

cheppanu kada boss...pov's maaravu....cheyadaniki pani dorakanappudu edi dorikithe adi chestharu janalu....paina indaka evaro cheppinattu idi complex situation roots loki velli chudalsinadi...

 

 

[vaade_veedu]

People like you have romantic notions about the downtrodden and the poor. You have a need to romanticize everything they do in life and from your vantage point see it as something that they do because of the oppression from the higher ups in society.

Even I used to think the same but after a lot of interaction with people from the working class that you referred to in your incident, I realized that they don't think of it that way. In fact they can't afford to in their situation. You and me can afford the luxury of sitting in front of a laptop and sipping hot mugs of coffee and thinking about a lot of things and intellectualize them.

Telugu lo cheppalante kadupu nindinodi maatalu ivanni.....akali meeda unnapudu eve neethulu cheppu appudu chuddam.... Vallu avi alochincharu bathakalante edo okati cheyali...

You say you just want a casual banter where you can pass cheeky statements against/for a section of people and when they don't take it in a manner that you expect them to it bothers you. On the other hand (in case of the oppressed in India) you can mostly get away by doing that but you won't want to. And infact you want to sympathize with them and as I said romanticize the situation. 

You sound like the many people I listen to on the TV debates who want the poor to remain poor so that you can sympathize with them from a distance without trying to do anything to help them and the moment someone from that section stands up against stereotyping them and their lifestyle it bothers you. 

You want them to feel miserable about their lives and that they should not find dignity in what they chose/had to choose to do for a living.

You never cared to think what the father and the son think about their line of work. May be they feel proud of what they do and find dignity in it.

I am not saying they shouldn't aim for a better life. 

If a kid from a well to do family does a feat that would involve something like standing on the rooftop without any protective steps - just for the heck of it or some record - you will not show any sympathy towards that kid. Just because he is not doing it out of a compulsion to make a living will not make it any less dangerous. But the context totally changes the way you look at it.

 

 

I follow this DB regularly and mostly these kind of posts. But I never participate because nothing comes out of these kind of debates/arguments.

Ee post kuda utta timepass ki esthunna. Nuvu nee opinion/POV marchukovu - nenu naadi marchukonu. Naa drustilo oorike janala meeda Jaali chupichi vallani edo mee bathukulu intha goranga unnay ani - vallani athma nunyatha bhavaniki lonu cheyadam tappu. Let them decide if they are happy in what they are doing or they want to revolt against the systems that make them choose what they are doing for a living. 

 

ante nee kadupu nindakapothe nuv cheyyagalige pani ni nee koduku cheta cheyinchi nee koduku ni champutava ? em logic ra bhai .. aakaliki neethi teliyakapovacchu kani nijayitee viluva telsu... mundu adi telsuko, downtrodden people tho matladesi nenu thop anukoku ... aa koduku ni pampinodu baane balisi unnodu

[abhigadu]

dude how can one send his son to die ? It is disgusting than child labor

 

 

bro ...  :3D_Smiles: if not his son ippudu aa position lo valla nana ekkithae nae chanipoyae vaademo .. antae father chaavochu in that case? training kooda ichi unndaemo to handle such heights and situations manakem thelusu? 

 

andukae cheppa okavela thappu evaridhi antae we have to go in to roots anii .. kaaadhu anukuntae just look as he is doing his job anthaee .. 

and especially my concern was idhem kotha kaadhu and these kind of incidents are pretty common in India ... adhi base chesukoni India ki vellanu anadam mental illness laaga undhi ani na feeling anthae .. 

[vaade_veedu]

bro ...  :3D_Smiles: if not his son ippudu aa position lo valla nana ekkithae nae chanipoyae vaademo .. antae father chaavochu in that case? training kooda ichi unndaemo to handle such heights and situations manakem thelusu? 

 

andukae cheppa okavela thappu evaridhi antae we have to go in to roots anii .. kaaadhu anukuntae just look as he is doing his job anthaee .. 

and especially my concern was idhem kotha kaadhu and these kind of incidents are pretty common in India ... adhi base chesukoni India ki vellanu anadam mental illness laaga undhi ani na feeling anthae .. 

 

yes man father is the head of family vadu kakpothe family ni evadu chuskuntadu, that is minimum responsibility man... antha kavalante inka able candidaite ki ekkuva money icchi pettichukovali

[gargicau]

So Blacks are underclass and injustice is being served to them in US if that what you meant I don't agree with you.Blacks don't go to schools they are addicted to drugs and they ruin their lives and economically they are staying there.We people from some other country are able to survive why aren't they.Those guys are good at heart but they have to change their style of living .Muslims in India and Blacks in US sail on same boat .
 
 
[background=#f7f7f7]the conversation with black man will likely be me agreeing to everything he'd say.[/background]

 
[background=#f7f7f7]-You mean to say out of fear you are agreeing to everything ?[/background]

The topic of treatment of blacks in US is more fuzzy than you portray here.

so while if I was a born in the US, in touch with race relations in the USA, I'd be more comfortable with blacks.

As an outsider, I don't understand how far I can take a joke without offending blacks.

Also your comparison between reasonably educated Indian immigrants in the US with blacks who were enslaved for centuries is a bit misplaced.

[rapchik]

Yes man if u can't live both in India and usa
Tell me one country with ideal qualities where no racism or some kind of problem


And yes I beelieve it's very sensible comment

 

 

i can live in new Singapore just beside TG