Ap Capital Will Be Another Tianjin Eco-City

[killer99]

nenu epatikaina atu vypu polalu konukuni farmer ni avudham after 40's anukunevadni

 

go to east godavari or west godavari man. manchi alluvial soil untadhi. elano, most farmers whose second generation will not be farming might retire by that time. u can buy those lands and farm there :police:

[killer99]

Gm ba

 

GM bro. 

 

ela unnav?

[gargicau]

dont you think its just ur opinion more than any proven theory?  pls give us examples of planned cities and unplanned cities as driving forces for economical outburst. I believe economical success of a city has nothing to do with unplanned infrastructure. more over, a planned city provides a more comfortable life to its residents and retains the workforce.

Plenty of examples from Chinese cities. Shanghai, Shenzhen weren't planned until the late 90s. What happened was that the entire region was declared as an SEZ (chinese equivalent), and govt sped up the land acquisition process. Most of the construction in Shenzen (to which I frequent) is private.

Even HongKong has more flexibility compared to its more planned counterpart, Singapore.

they are small towns and that is why we (andhrites) are building a city like that to attract the educated workforce that will boom our economy. govt employs ey normal town ki vachi undamantey godava chesthunaru. how do u expect to attract corporate employs with out high standards of living??

This may be true. most of the jobs that are created these days are service sector jobs, with 'educated' workforce. By constructing a planned city, AP capital will forego more and more manufacturing jobs into the smaller cities, which will probably not be equipped with the right infrastructure, given AP is spending too much on its capital.
 
 

tell me places where land is cheaper in andhra pradesh that have organically grown cities? Nellore lo acre entho telusa?? pls dont tell the name of some place in rayalseema which does not even have adequate water resources for current residents leaving alone the future inflow of population in the future.
 
once unplanned city form ayithey inka malli hyd outskirts lo farmers la malli businessmen medha edusthuney untaru.

Yeah AP has the equivalent of a dutch disease, which makes it less competitive as a manufacturing destination. Inspite of its long coastline. Its pretty sad.
 

you are wrong if you think the planned city is only for the current residents. its our capital and there will be a lot of inflow in the near future. what makes you think people in vijayawada/guntur are lazy, unimaginative and entitled population??


Not lazy coz they have been successful in agriculture. imaginative coz they have made sure their second generation gets better living standards with better education. u can see most people from vijayawada/guntur in the US as well. entitled population will be a problem anywhere.
 
maybe if you try to understand the situation of andhra holistically.  u might be in a better position to accept why we need a planned city like that.

I didn't say vij/gun are lazy. unimaginative. I said that planned cities are likely to create lazy unimaginative population. like Singapore.

[killer99]

Plenty of examples from Chinese cities. Shanghai, Shenzhen weren't planned until the late 90s. What happened was that the entire region was declared as an SEZ (chinese equivalent), and govt sped up the land acquisition process. Most of the construction in Shenzen (to which I frequent) is private.

Even HongKong has more flexibility compared to its more planned counterpart, Singapore.


This may be true. most of the jobs that are created these days are service sector jobs, with 'educated' workforce. By constructing a planned city, AP capital will forego more and more manufacturing jobs into the smaller cities, which will probably not be equipped with the right infrastructure, given AP is spending too much on its capital.
 
 

Yeah AP has the equivalent of a dutch disease, which makes it less competitive as a manufacturing destination. Inspite of its long coastline. Its pretty sad.
 

I didn't say vij/gun are lazy. unimaginative. I said that planned cities are likely to create lazy unimaginative population. like Singapore.

 

 

so u agree with the constraints but disagree with having a planned city???

[gargicau]

so u agree with the constraints but disagree with having a planned city???

so you are okay with letting manufacturing jobs being scattered all around the state, and the capital being just a service sector hub. whatever IT or R&D or any such crap?

Because nobody is going to invest in AP capital if the deal is cheaper in Hyd or even Chennai. Nobody needs overbuilt infra. least of all manufacturing companies.

If CBN is after IT/Knowledge based jobs, do you even understand how underprepared AP in particular, and India in general, are for a boom in knowledge based economy? At best, we'll have more software consulting companies open shop in AP capital. Nothing more.

Even if a google/facebook are impressed with AP capital and decides to move their Asia HQ to AP capital, it won't make much of a difference, as long as the rates are unaffordable.

So why not wait for the land holders to come down off their high horse in demanding more for their land, rather than giving them more reasons to triple their expectations, and hence creating a huge supply/demand gap.

This gamble by CBN (having a planned city) is going to fail, if he goes through with it. First of all, he hasn't released how much this city is going to cost, and what the forecasts are for the next 10-15 yrs. And how AP can afford it.

Expecting central govt to pay for it is absurd.

[fake_Bezawada]

go to east godavari or west godavari man. manchi alluvial soil untadhi. elano, most farmers whose second generation will not be farming might retire by that time. u can buy those lands and farm there :police:

nadhi kuuda same thought

[killer99]

so you are okay with letting manufacturing jobs being scattered all around the state, and the capital being just a service sector hub. whatever IT or R&D or any such crap?

 

yes, whats wrong with that?
 

Because nobody is going to invest in AP capital if the deal is cheaper in Hyd or even Chennai. Nobody needs overbuilt infra. least of all manufacturing companies.

If CBN is after IT/Knowledge based jobs, do you even understand how underprepared AP in particular, and India in general, are for a boom in knowledge based economy? At best, we'll have more software consulting companies open shop in AP capital. Nothing more.

Even if a google/facebook are impressed with AP capital and decides to move their Asia HQ to AP capital, it won't make much of a difference, as long as the rates are unaffordable.

 

 

again, this is just your opinion. do u already have the rates in AP? I do not understand how underprepared we are. pls explain. I dont know if its a problem with me or you but i feel you views to be pessimistic.

 

So why not wait for the land holders to come down off their high horse in demanding more for their land, rather than giving them more reasons to triple their expectations, and hence creating a huge supply/demand gap.

 

 

did u understand what they are doing in the land pooling system?? 

[killer99]

This gamble by CBN (having a planned city) is going to fail, if he goes through with it. First of all, he hasn't released how much this city is going to cost, and what the forecasts are for the next 10-15 yrs. And how AP can afford it.

 

 

as you stated earlier that u were wrong in expecting the growth of hyd, u might be wrong again. pls wait and watch bro. he will do what ever he can in the next 5 years. he believes in something for which people have voted this time. as a politician he has the responsibility of what he promised them. 

 

AP revenues are increasing and we might be able to afford it. public private partnership is what AP might rely on. 

 

Expecting central govt to pay for it is absurd.

 

do you really think CBN is expecting that? leave him alone,  i myself dont think AP will even get the special status or any significant financial support from center. those are all the stories to calm the voters that are expecting immediate miracles. 

 

 

are you suggesting us to wait for decades for an organically grown city?? leave the current graduating students to dogs? If you really have the best solution, explain me. you have been making statements in an unstructured manner that i was unable to follow. you are saying this wrong, pls tell us what is right. happy to learn from you bro.