lazybugger Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 If right or wrong do not exist then it's upto every individual to do or believe what ever one wants then it does not give any one any right to comment on anything or any one.., so cultures die and take birth it need not to be Hindu or anything by the way Hinduism is not a culture ... It's a belief .. That's the reason it's still alive from so long... No. it is upto a group/community to decide on what is right and wrong. Not the individual. actually 'right/wrong' is not the ideal way to look at it. it's more like 'ok/not ok/dangerous' to the group. If hindus think it is wrong to eat beef, then it is wrong for them. but that won't stop individual hindus from trying to change it. because if Hindus keep believing that cow is sacred, it borders on the silly. Atleast they don't ban cow slaughter like buddhists do wholesale.
Luppon_Gidigidi Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 No. it is upto a group/community to decide on what is right and wrong. Not the individual. actually 'right/wrong' is not the ideal way to look at it. it's more like 'ok/not ok/dangerous' to the group. If hindus think it is wrong to eat beef, then it is wrong for them. but that won't stop individual hindus from trying to change it. because if Hindus keep believing that cow is sacred, it borders on the silly. Atleast they don't ban cow slaughter like buddhists do wholesale. orey thuppel narsi gaa.. memu cheppindi kuda adhe kada ra.. thippi thippi akkadike techavu ga? Ee matram daniki pageelu pageela text enduku ra daffa?
lazybugger Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 orey thuppel narsi gaa.. memu cheppindi kuda adhe kada ra.. thippi thippi akkadike techavu ga? Ee matram daniki pageelu pageela text enduku ra daffa? nee bondha le. imposing a practice - for whatever logical reasons, is different from letting a group decide for itself. plus, Hindus aren't a homogenous group. brahmins telling others not to eat cow is the silliest thing ever.
Ulfa123 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 orey thuppel narsi gaa.. memu cheppindi kuda adhe kada ra.. thippi thippi akkadike techavu ga? Ee matram daniki pageelu pageela text enduku ra daffa? Endhuku vayya elanti discussions pedataru....... Oka conclusion vundadhu savadhu...... Diplomatic gaa end chestaru anni:.... Love marriage or arranges marriaged aa anta.... Edhina Sare depends on individual antaru..... Epudu beef tenala vadha anta .... Depends on community antaru...... Maaku telvadha evvi.... Mali dheniki tthaadu veyatam okati..... Okati fix avvandi..... Ledha ... Vadhileyandi
lazybugger Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 orey thuppel narsi gaa.. memu cheppindi kuda adhe kada ra.. thippi thippi akkadike techavu ga? Ee matram daniki pageelu pageela text enduku ra daffa? whites Xians 10gatam choosi, India lo Xians meedha edavatam kaadu. veelaithe Hindu lani 10gu. lekunte not far the day, when Hinduism will start resembling Islam.
lazybugger Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Endhuku vayya elanti discussions pedataru....... Oka conclusion vundadhu savadhu...... Diplomatic gaa end chestaru anni:.... Love marriage or arranges marriaged aa anta.... Edhina Sare depends on individual antaru..... Epudu beef tenala vadha anta .... Depends on community antaru...... Maaku telvadha evvi.... Mali dheniki tthaadu veyatam okati..... Okati fix avvandi..... Ledha ... Vadhileyandi depends on community ani evarannaru? neekishtamunte thinu, lekunte maaneyi ane ga andaru antundhi.
Luppon_Gidigidi Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 whites Xians 10gatam choosi, India lo Xians meedha edavatam kaadu. veelaithe Hindu lani 10gu. lekunte not far the day, when Hinduism will start resembling Islam. hinduism is not an enforced religion. It is the most democratic and libertarian religion in the history of mankind. Don't compare apples with oranges.
Ulfa123 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 depends on community ani evarannaru? neekishtamunte thinu, lekunte maaneyi ane ga andaru antundhi. Adha mayaa nenu chepadhi.... Naaku telvadha naaku istam I e the thinala vadha ani.... Poni meeku telvadha.... Dhaniki Endhuku Ee discussion ani....
lazybugger Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Adha mayaa nenu chepadhi.... Naaku telvadha naaku istam I e the thinala vadha ani.... Poni meeku telvadha.... Dhaniki Endhuku Ee discussion ani.... TS adiginaadu, discussion nadusthundi. enduku ante em cheppamantaav.
lazybugger Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 hinduism is not an enforced religion. It is the most democratic and libertarian religion in the history of mankind. Don't compare apples with oranges. lol. lite teesko.
Power Star Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 In Hinduism, the cow is considered sacred and its protection is a recurrent theme in which she is symbolic of abundance, of the sanctity of all life and of the earth that gives much while asking nothing in return. Most Hindus respect the cow as a matriarchal figure for her gentle qualities and providing nurturing milk and its products for a largely vegetarian diet. Hindus DO NOT WORSHIP the cow, yet it holds an honoured place in society, and most Hindus do not eat beef. Origins There is no consensus on whether the cow was sacred and forbidden in the Hindu diet from ancient Vedic times. The Vedic sacrifices, after which the sanctified meat was eaten, include bovines, and even at a funeral ceremony, the Ashvalayana Grhya Sutras prescribe the sacrifice of a cow for consumption. Frequently it is specified that the sacrificed cow had to be a barren one, "destined for the gods and the brahmans", or a bull. In their Dharmasutras, Vasishta, Gautama and Apastambha prohibit eating the flesh of both cows and draught oxen, while Baudhya-yana exacts penances for killing a cow, and stricter ones for a milk animal or draught ox. Starting with prohibitions on cow slaughter for ritual brahminical sacrifice, revulsion spread to the eating of all types of beef derived in such sacrifices. It was possibly revered because the largely pastoral Vedic people and subsequent generations relied so heavily on the cow for dairy products, tilling of fields and cow dung as a source of fuel and a fertiliser that its status as a 'caretaker' led to identifying it as an almost maternal figure (so the term gau mata). Those who believe that Vedic people ate cows propose that the scriptural injuctions against eating it started with Krishna, who tended cows, or alternatively with the rise of Jainism. Despite the differences of opinion regarding the origins of the cow's elevated status, reverence for cows can be found throughout the religion's major texts. Sanskrit etymology The most common word for cow is go, as seen in go-pala, a name for Krishna, which means cowherd. This word is cognate with the English cow and Latin bo-. The Sanskrit word for cattle is pashu, which is cognate with the Latin word pecu, from which derives words pertaining to money in Latin (and into English) : pecunia, impecunious. This illustrates the parallel in the Roman world and in the ancient Hindu world, of the economic importance of cows and cattle. The cow is descriptively called Aghanya - that which may not be slaughtered.Depending on the interpretation of terminology used for a cow, the cow may have been protected or offered as a sacrifice and eaten. The cow in the Hindu scriptures According to the Rig Veda, the cow represents the maternal aspect of Earth. Vyasa said: Cows are sacred. They are embodiments of merit. They are high and most efficacious cleansers of all. According to Aurobindo, in the Rig Veda the cows sometimes symbolize "light" and "rays".Aurobindo wrote that Aditi (the supreme Prakriti/Nature force) is described as a cow, and the Deva or Purusha (the supreme being/soul) as a bull. The Vedic god Indra is sometimes compared to a bull. Cattle were also important to the Rigvedic people, and several hymns refer to ten thousand and more cattle. Rig Veda 7.95.2. and other verses (e.g. 8.21.18) also mention that the Sarasvati region poured milk and "fatness" (ghee), indicating that cattle were herded in this region. Rivers are often likened to cows in the Rigveda, for example in 3.33.1cd, Like two bright mother cows who lick their young, Vipas and Sutudri speed down their waters. In Hinduism, the cow is considered sacred and its protection is a recurrent theme in which she is symbolic of abundance, of the sanctity of all life and of the earth that gives much while asking nothing in return. Most Hindus respect the cow as a matriarchal figure for her gentle qualities and providing nurturing milk and its products for a largely vegetarian diet. Hindus DO NOT WORSHIP the cow, yet it holds an honoured place in society, and most Hindus do not eat beef. Origins There is no consensus on whether the cow was sacred and forbidden in the Hindu diet from ancient Vedic times. The Vedic sacrifices, after which the sanctified meat was eaten, include bovines, and even at a funeral ceremony, the Ashvalayana Grhya Sutras prescribe the sacrifice of a cow for consumption. Frequently it is specified that the sacrificed cow had to be a barren one, "destined for the gods and the brahmans", or a bull. In their Dharmasutras, Vasishta, Gautama and Apastambha prohibit eating the flesh of both cows and draught oxen, while Baudhya-yana exacts penances for killing a cow, and stricter ones for a milk animal or draught ox. Starting with prohibitions on cow slaughter for ritual brahminical sacrifice, revulsion spread to the eating of all types of beef derived in such sacrifices. It was possibly revered because the largely pastoral Vedic people and subsequent generations relied so heavily on the cow for dairy products, tilling of fields and cow dung as a source of fuel and a fertiliser that its status as a 'caretaker' led to identifying it as an almost maternal figure (so the term gau mata). Those who believe that Vedic people ate cows propose that the scriptural injuctions against eating it started with Krishna, who tended cows, or alternatively with the rise of Jainism. Despite the differences of opinion regarding the origins of the cow's elevated status, reverence for cows can be found throughout the religion's major texts. Sanskrit etymology The most common word for cow is go, as seen in go-pala, a name for Krishna, which means cowherd. This word is cognate with the English cow and Latin bo-. The Sanskrit word for cattle is pashu, which is cognate with the Latin word pecu, from which derives words pertaining to money in Latin (and into English) : pecunia, impecunious. This illustrates the parallel in the Roman world and in the ancient Hindu world, of the economic importance of cows and cattle. The cow is descriptively called Aghanya - that which may not be slaughtered.Depending on the interpretation of terminology used for a cow, the cow may have been protected or offered as a sacrifice and eaten. The cow in the Hindu scriptures According to the Rig Veda, the cow represents the maternal aspect of Earth. Vyasa said: Cows are sacred. They are embodiments of merit. They are high and most efficacious cleansers of all. According to Aurobindo, in the Rig Veda the cows sometimes symbolize "light" and "rays".Aurobindo wrote that Aditi (the supreme Prakriti/Nature force) is described as a cow, and the Deva or Purusha (the supreme being/soul) as a bull. The Vedic god Indra is sometimes compared to a bull. Cattle were also important to the Rigvedic people, and several hymns refer to ten thousand and more cattle. Rig Veda 7.95.2. and other verses (e.g. 8.21.18) also mention that the Sarasvati region poured milk and "fatness" (ghee), indicating that cattle were herded in this region. Rivers are often likened to cows in the Rigveda, for example in 3.33.1cd, Like two bright mother cows who lick their young, Vipas and Sutudri speed down their waters. Krishna Literature on Lord Krishna, one of the Hinduism's most important figures, who is believed to have lived 5000 years ago, depict him as a cowherd. He is often described as Bala Gopala, "the child who protects the cows." Another of Krishna's names, Govinda, means "one who brings satisfaction to the cows." Other scriptures identify the cow as the "mother" of all civilization, its milk nurturing the population. The gift of a cow is applauded as the highest kind of gift. The milk of a cow is believed to promote Sattvic (purifying) qualities. The ghee (clarified butter) from the milk of a cow is used in ceremonies and in preparing religious food. Cow dung is used as fertilizer, as a fuel and as a disinfectant in homes. Modern science acknowledges that the smoke from cow dung is a powerful disinfectant and an anti-pollutant. Its urine is also used for religious rituals as well as medicinal purposes. The supreme purificatory material, panchagavya, was a mixture of five products of the cow, namely milk, curds, ghee, urine and dung. The interdiction of the meat of the bounteous cow as food was regarded as the first step to total vegetarianism. The cow in Ancient India Recent studies also indicate that the Indus Valley region had an exceptionally high frequency of cattle domestication, and cattle mtDNA studies indicate that South Asia may be one of two regions with cattle domestication. Terracotta cattle figurines, „bullock“ carts and cattle motifs have often been found in the Harappan sites.The cow could be seen as a "cultural link" between the ancient Harappans and modern Hindus, because the cow was economically important for the ancient Harappans and has also a religious importance in post-Vedic Hinduism. There are also depictions of (Zebu) cattle on pottery, figurines and Indus seals.The domestication of the Zebu cattle is believed to have occurred locally. Historical significance The cow taboo played a role in the Indian Rebellion of 1857 against the British colonial government. Hindu sepoys were told that the new bullets were greased with cow fat. Since gunloading required biting the bullet, the British Army was forcing them to break their religion, and this sentiment, in part, incited the mutiny. In today's world Today, in heavily Hindu nations like India and Nepal, bovine milk continues to hold a central place in religious rituals. In honor of their exalted status, cows often roam free. In some places, it is considered good luck to give one a snack, or fruit before breakfast. In holy places where there is a ban on cow slaughter, a citizen can be sent to jail for killing or injuring a cow. With injunctions against eating the cow, a system evolved where only the pariah fed on dead cows and treated their leather. With the introduction of Islam, Muslims also entered this business. Rambling cows also served as a social equalizer. A landless farmer could leave his cows to wander and feed on the fields of the rich, who could not keep them away. Studies show that the substitution of work cows with mechanized farming would not be economically sound for India. K
sattipandu Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 I Cant believe myself, I didnt read all the pages , I agree with Narsi evadiki kaavalsindhi vallani thinaniyyandi vayya , kondaru enduku thinaru -aney vishayam matuku teluskundam
micxas Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 no emo micxas.. we dont eat beef out of respect because of all the benefits we get from cows we consider it as a good thing ..so out of love and respect thinnam ani nenu anukuntunna Actually I said in the context of mythology, kamadhenuvu..
Cool Posted August 21, 2015 Report Posted August 21, 2015 No. it is upto a group/community to decide on what is right and wrong. Not the individual. actually 'right/wrong' is not the ideal way to look at it. it's more like 'ok/not ok/dangerous' to the group. If hindus think it is wrong to eat beef, then it is wrong for them. but that won't stop individual hindus from trying to change it. because if Hindus keep believing that cow is sacred, it borders on the silly. Atleast they don't ban cow slaughter like buddhists do wholesale. How can you or a group say that it's ok for a group to decide what is right and wrong and why cannot an individual decide it....if that is the case all religious groups claim they are right.. Then all veggy groups days it's wrong to eat eat meat... Muslim groups say it's wrong to eat pork ... Chinese groups say nothing wrong in eating everything including humans:) adi Nduke evaro ishtam valladi.. Own ga realize avvali what is right wrong ani...
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