Religion And Science Must Not Be Mixed - China Jeeyar Swamy - Tv9

[SUBBARAVU]

Don't agree with him..

[tables]

anthe kada science ni god ni kalipithe veedi lanti vaalaki geeraki undadu kada.

[DaleSteyn1]

I heard he is an engineer as well

[micxas]

ever changing badhulu even better science cannot find GOD ani unte bagundedhi emo??  think_ww  think_ww

 

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I agree to some extent, but there are some people out there who do not agree, all changes are not better ones  :3D_Smiles_38:

[ChandraSekharCherukuri]

Kriti Sanon nude pice please 

[micxas]

dont you think its just a saying & that doesnt mean its real. have you ever thought of who said it? why he.she said it? & in what context he.she said it? does that apply same in other scenarios.?  

 

gravity does exist, but we cant see it? we can only feel it  & there are lot of theories that explain the existence of gravity, similarly air. 

Red- It was told in Sri vaishnava tradition, all the major 6 branches in hinduism point toward oneness/ advaitha.  Told by Adi shankaracharya, Ramanujacharya, and so many great scholars  mentioned in so many places in puranas, kavyas too, do not ask me for credibility :police:  I do not want to have a wordly discussion on a religion..

 I tell you this, if one wants to to have a discussion on medicine, it will be nice if they read the mediceine thing before cming for a discussion, similarly i would recommend people who comment on certain statements of an imminent guru to read the stuff. I can give you the examples, read aditya hrudayam, it is full of science, in fact above the science  :4_12_13:

Read Hauman chalisa, Tyagaraja krithis,  go in deep,  they are all treasures.. do some yoga( not the hot yoga, bend yoga :police: ) dhyanam, upasana...

 

Blue- I agree, I am more than happy if someone proves or disproves the existence of God, but it again comes to the definition of the defined, every major religion in the world agree someone is above us and watching although their explanation of him is different. For example In Hinduism we say watch the God in Sun, In Brahmin( the real one :) ), Cow, Master( the one who teaches vedic principles and follows vedic life) and Deity in temple( i might have missed the exact order) and finally in yourself. Where as in Islam, Christianity if I am correct God is 'para lokamnununde prabhuvu' 

So many things TIMMY...

 

I felt so many times how Chinnajeeyar was felt when I saw someone explaining scientifically  why wear lalchi, why put sindoor, why do pradakshina in Temple, etc...  explain them scientifically  fine but do not see only science angle there is a lot to it in religion or in dharma.

 

We are not ignorant of science I am enjoying all the benefits of science and itsadvancements but that doesn't always mean everything can be explained through science.

 

I have these opinions, others might feel differently not a problem to me :)

[timmy]

Red- It was told in Sri vaishnava tradition, all the major 6 branches in hinduism point toward oneness/ advaitha.  Told by Adi shankaracharya, Ramanujacharya, and so many great scholars  mentioned in so many places in puranas, kavyas too, do not ask me for credibility   I do not want to have a wordly discussion on a religion..

 I tell you this, if one wants to to have a discussion on medicine, it will be nice if they read the mediceine thing before cming for a discussion, similarly i would recommend people who comment on certain statements of an imminent guru to read the stuff. I can give you the examples, read aditya hrudayam, it is full of science, in fact above the science 

Read Hauman chalisa, Tyagaraja krithis,  go in deep,  they are all treasures.. do some yoga( not the hot yoga, bend yoga  ) dhyanam, upasana...

 

Blue- I agree, I am more than happy if someone proves or disproves the existence of God, but it again comes to the definition of the defined, every major religion in the world agree someone is above us and watching although their explanation of him is different. For example In Hinduism we say watch the God in Sun, In Brahmin( the real one :) ), Cow, Master( the one who teaches vedic principles and follows vedic life) and Deity in temple( i might have missed the exact order) and finally in yourself. Where as in Islam, Christianity if I am correct God is 'para lokamnununde prabhuvu' 

So many things TIMMY...

 

I felt so many times how Chinnajeeyar was felt when I saw someone explaining scientifically  why wear lalchi, why put sindoor, why do pradakshina in Temple, etc...  explain them scientifically  fine but do not see only science angle there is a lot to it in religion or in dharma.

 

We are not ignorant of science I am enjoying all the benefits of science and itsadvancements but that doesn't always mean everything can be explained through science.

 

I have these opinions, others might feel differently not a problem to me :)

Red:  Yes they are great scholars by that time & they had embedded lot scientific things into religion. And they also added some things which are not true scientifically. but still there is no change in the scripts until know we wont question them & we take the scripts literally.  Recently stephen hawkings was proven wrong buy by another scientist on his theory on black holes with ample proof &whole scientific community accepted  they didnt just say "no stephen hawkings is great scholar and he is right"

All i am saying is we should question old scripts, from time to time if it proves that they are correct then there is no problem for science to accept it. thats how we will see progress in humanity after all without curiosity humans  wont make it this far.

 

Blue: i disagree with this quote it may time to explain but science is the only way to explain everything.

 

I didnt mean to hurt your feelings about hindu religion, if i do sorry for that. I would ask the same questions if a muslim or christian prophet says science must not be mixed with religion as a matter of fact its already mixed. :) :)

 

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[micxas]

Red:  Yes they are great scholars by that time & they had embedded lot scientific things into religion. And they also added some things which are not true scientifically. but still there is no change in the scripts until know we wont question them & we take the scripts literally.  Recently stephen hawkings was proven wrong buy another scientist on his theory on black holes with ample proof &whole scientific community accepted  they didnt just say "no stephen hawkings is great scholar and he is right"

All i am saying is we should question old scripts, from time to time if it proves that they are correct then there is no problem for science to accept it. thats how we will see progress in humanity after all without curiosity humans  wont make it this far.

 

Blue: i disagree with this quote it may time to explain but science is the only way to explain everything.

 

I didnt mean to hurt your feelings about hindu religion, if i do for that. I would ask the same questions if a muslim or christian prophet says science must not be mixed with religion as a matter of fact its already mixed. :)

Reply to  reply of red- Indian scholars who wrote them were not the scientists  they are Masters in a spiritual way, they themselves said it, they did with upasana, tapassu not through science..  That is why I keep telling science cannot be used in a religion in its complete form, their practices were not related to materialistic, scientific observations as far as I know, so there is no question of amendments of principle, One followed another, never corrected or said something which is against what was being told before. Again I am not concluding everything is right which is impossible...I agree there has been changes to traditions and ceremonies but they are mostly related to rituals and man's attribution to God, not the existence of God. evolution of religion is not at all a science, some one calls it a belief I see it as experience :)

 

Reply to reply of Blue-   :police:  well okay!, I disagree but I do not a have  wordly counter now. But It should come with experience.

 

I do not mind hurting  religions, everyone must have freedom to say their sayings but at a decent level. Science and religion are mixed that's  right, but we don't have to especially no use in finding scientific answers to religious methods which people will follow in either way, you may end up in vain .. :)

[stockdazzler]

direct ga cheppali ante - science ni memu 10galem vadileyandie ani edustunnaru :police: funny stone age religions with stupid fairy tale concepts 

[micxas]

direct ga cheppali ante - science ni memu 10galem vadileyandie ani edustunnaru :police: funny stone age religions with stupid fairy tale concepts 

:police:

[bindazking]

religion is a belief.. (some) people who believe in religion.. trying to justify the religion as a scientific approach for modern society, which was defined many years back. 

 

 

[tables]

religion anedi undali..just to instill fear in ppl tht tappu cheste u will face consequences of tht ani....and also to lead a good life.

ante kani eelanti vaalu vaala biginess kosam, aa rituls ee rituals ani manchi shop naduputunnaru.

 

science ni kalpoddu antaru...becoz wht is true can be definitely justified throu science(adi ee matam aina sare).kaani veelu eese sollu justify cheyaleru so dontmix antaru.

 

off topic bt had a Q: vinayakudu really existed or adi oka mythological character aa?enduku hindu mythology antamu? adeedo fictional story annatu

[athletics]

Red: Yes they are great scholars by that time & they had embedded lot scientific things into religion. And they also added some things which are not true scientifically. but still there is no change in the scripts until know we wont question them & we take the scripts literally. Recently stephen hawkings was proven wrong buy another scientist on his theory on black holes with ample proof &whole scientific community accepted they didnt just say "no stephen hawkings is great scholar and he is right"
All i am saying is we should question old scripts, from time to time if it proves that they are correct then there is no problem for science to accept it. thats how we will see progress in humanity after all without curiosity humans wont make it this far.

Blue: i disagree with this quote it may time to explain but science is the only way to explain everything.

I didnt mean to hurt your feelings about hindu religion, if i do sorry for that. I would ask the same questions if a muslim or christian prophet says science must not be mixed with religion as a matter of fact its already mixed. :) :)

+1, you stole words from my mouth:)

[athletics]

A lot of hindu rituals and superstions are cryptic but scientifically tied into something purposeful. So i say they are evidentially based on science to the core .

[timmy]

What ever you do is related to science. we cannot deny that including your thinking of God. :) :)