Devudu Leru Antaru

[MrDexter]

evaro expert rasinattu undhi
Really cool.

Too much knowledge ..

E madhya religion ki aethism ki Madhya lo thannuku laaduthunna

I am no expert but i did read a lot because i had a lot of questions. Regarding your current situation, Dont worry at all. Just keep asking more questions and find answers. You will naturally gravitate towards a firm understanding based on your knowledge base and based on your personality type. Question everything until the answer satisfies you.

[soulmate]

I usually tend to believe concepts backed by science than faith or mysticism or religious beliefs. I know that karma the way people think it works does not exist. I agree with you on that.

 

But why would our ancestors create this concept? and why only Ancient Indians observed this and coined this term and later adopted under different names in different parts of the world? That was because the concepts born out of India are still effective and appreciated because the material is TIME tested. That means Indian Continent is most continuously inhabited continent of all the parts of the world. 

 

Early humans migrating out of Africa kept walking towards the East, i.e towards the Sun and entered India sub continent via middle East crossing Sindh river water ever it was called. 

 

Most of the Indian settlements were actually in the Eastern part of middleeast like Afghanisthan etc. and finally entering into the continent Indians were bounded by the Arabian sea, indian ocean and bay of bengal and with Himalayas on the north. So they really didnt have any other place to go so MAJOR settlements were started 10's of thousands of years ago and these ancestors through time tested material observed the phenomenon of karma that if you are really leading a truthful and honest life, you would not really be succumbed to depression, tensions, fear and murder etc.

 

HOW KARMA WORKS?

we dont need god for karma to operate. We dont need to be LUCKY.

 

The early you adopt the route of Dharma the more mental peace you get later on in your life. nobody can contradict this.

 

Eg: manam teenage lo baga abhdhaalu adutham. Thrill ni enjoy chestham. But public manalni nammanappudu chinnappudu amma/nanna cheppina neethi gurthosthundhi. This is karma. Since you lied you, your friends will no more trust you. They only trust people who are truthful and honest. Alage chinnapudinunchi abhadhalu adakunda unde vallu mee annaya no or friend meeku great personality laga kanipistharu. If you understand the power of truth you will realize that you were warned very early on in your life no to lie. 

 

this just example. but in reality each every day everyone will realize his mistakes and realize that he was already warned in very young age via Moral stories, epics, poems etc that we need to lead a honest and truthful life. This is what karma is...... Adopt the route of dharma as early as possible. The more late you are, the more weak your mental abilities become and you start to think evil. Thinking evil and being ultra rich might be considered LUCK. But if a man is not peaceful mentally then he is not living a proper life at all.

what you are saying is more in terms like..

if you dont study for exam. you fail. if you work hard. you get good marks.. is that karma? yes. is it also obvious? yes, but there are exceptions who cheat nd pass but they are exceptions, we can ignore, its that simple. no need to dig history.

 

i thought we are discussing about the ones that are less obvious like, I cheat someone, do i get payback for what I did, may be, maybe not.

its just a chance.. we need words and personifications to talk about something.

 

But why would our ancestors create this concept?

Honestly, I dont know. they might have reasons.. that doesent mean every concept that is created really and works. there are many concepts that our ancestors created some we dont follow some we abolished like sati, so no need to bring that here.

 

My Opinion, there was no justice system back then, people need to believe in something, people needs something to hang on to, they need to fear something when they do some bad things, and also when they do good things they need hope that their life will be better.

isnt that why ppl pray(atleast most of them), hoping that they ll have a better life? unrelated but just saying.

I agree with you as well, the obvious ones in most cases work.

[MrDexter]

what you are saying is more in terms like..

if you dont study for exam. you fail. if you work hard. you get good marks.. is that karma? yes. is it also obvious? yes, but there are exceptions who cheat nd pass but they are exceptions, we can ignore, its that simple. no need to dig history.

 

i thought we are discussing about the ones that are less obvious like, I cheat someone, do i get payback for what I did, may be, maybe not.

its just a chance.. we need words and personifications to talk about something.

 

But why would our ancestors create this concept?

Honestly, I dont know. they might have reasons.. that doesent mean every concept that is created really and works. there are many concepts that our ancestors created some we dont follow some we abolished like sati, so no need to bring that here.

 

My Opinion, there was no justice system back then, people need to believe in something, people needs something to hang on to, they need to fear something when they do some bad things, and also when they do good things they need hope that their life will be better.

isnt that why ppl pray(atleast most of them), hoping that they ll have a better life? unrelated but just saying.

 

Its not as simple as, "If you dont study you will fail". Yes it is obvious statement.

KARMA IS NOT ABOUT PAYBACK. That is what i was trying to say. Karma is about effects of your previous actions on your future and definitely in your current lifetime. It is as simple as that. People who really dont understand the core concept of karma tend to believe the effects will be carried over to next life or reincarnation etc...which i am not in favour of...

 

So if you study you will pass. If you dont you will fail. But like you said you can even copy and pass. But you cannot pass by copying forever. Since you copied and passed you dont have the confidence it requires to gain knowledge inside the classroom or ask questions and do research. You tend to believe that i can get away by passing etc. end of the day you might have the degree but you wont be able to utilize it truthfully (like doctor/engg/law etc). You may get a job w/recommendation or do a real estate business etc... But the evil thought will never leave you and you try to get away with bigger crimes. Since you do crime or wrong doing you know deep in your heart that you are not pure. This impurity in your heart is enough to have effects on your current state because of your previous actions. Only solution is to realize the wrong doing and adopt good practices of honesty and truthfulness. the late it is the tough it will be to adopt good practices. Good practices will only bring you the peace, the power, the confidence, boldness and fearlessness in your life. Riches wont make you fearless, riches actually make you weak. Riches wont matter when you get old like past 65-75 yrs. Its the conviction that really matters end of your life.

 

No riches or wealth or property will give you the satisfaction you have in leading a truthful and honest life. You will not understand this because, sorry to say, you might still be under the assumption that you can get away with some things. But believe me, you cannot. I dont know your age but i am 29 and i feel so lucky that i have realized so many mistakes (however minor they are) i did in my life and knowing that i am not that ignorant person itself gives me utmost confidence to deal with real situations in life while talking business or dealing with my boss or pitching my ideas to friends etc.. You will definitely realize it soon. I am not saying that you are bad person. I am saying that it takes time to realize.

 

Source:

kar·ma

ˈkärmə/

noun

 

1. (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences.

   • informal

     destiny or fate, following as effect from cause.

      

      

 

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[soulmate]

wtffff u know about me to judge me.. I thnk that I can get away with bad things. how the fkk u can decide what i think., did i say that.. y r u taking it personally....
did i comment abt ur qualities or anything abt you in my post.. i purely kept it to the subject... 

 

you cant keep yourself in the center of the universe when you look at it.. not all ppl feel what you feel.

 

 

Its not as simple as, "If you dont study you will fail". Yes it is obvious statement.

KARMA IS NOT ABOUT PAYBACK.

 

If i guy does bad things does he gets payback ?- in this context he getting payback is the negative result that he gets for his actions... i didnt say pay back and revenge means karma...

 

That is what i was trying to say. Karma is about effects of your previous actions on your future and definitely in your current lifetime. It is as simple as that. People who really dont understand the core concept of karma tend to believe the effects will be carried over to next life or reincarnation etc...which i am not in favour of...

 

So if you study you will pass. If you dont you will fail. But like you said you can even copy and pass. But you cannot pass by copying forever. Since you copied and passed you dont have the confidence it requires to gain knowledge inside the classroom or ask questions and do research. You tend to believe that i can get away by passing etc. end of the day you might have the degree but you wont be able to utilize it truthfully (like doctor/engg/law etc).

-Again like I said this is obvious.. you work hard you will have a good future. you slack you will have a poor future.. this is all abvious boss.. you slack you get lottery - those are exceptions.. I said i was not talking about obvious things and that is the reason I said karma does not work.

 

You may get a job w/recommendation or do a real estate business etc... But the evil thought will never leave you and you try to get away with bigger crimes. Since you do crime or wrong doing you know deep in your heart that you are not pure. This impurity in your heart is enough to have effects on your current state because of your previous actions.

-not true for everyone dude. absolutely not true, people cheat, people rob, kill they have no feelings. everyones morale is different. not everyone has empathy. 

 

Only solution is to realize the wrong doing and adopt good practices of honesty and truthfulness. the late it is the tough it will be to adopt good practices. Good practices will only bring you the peace, the power, the confidence, boldness and fearlessness in your life.

 

Riches wont make you fearless, riches actually make you weak. Riches wont matter when you get old like past 65-75 yrs. Its the conviction that really matters end of your life. Conviction matters dude but money also matters a lot in the current world. 

 

 

No riches or wealth or property will give you the satisfaction you have in leading a truthful and honest life. 

dude! you might feel like this, i might feel like this how can you decide everyone else feels like this

 

 

You will not understand this because, sorry to say, you might still be under the assumption that you can get away with some things.

 

-Again WTF????

 

But believe me, you cannot. I dont know your age but i am 29 and i feel so lucky that i have realized so many mistakes (however minor they are) i did in my life and knowing that i am not that ignorant person itself gives me utmost confidence to deal with real situations in life while talking business or dealing with my boss or pitching my ideas to friends etc..

Good for you

 

 

You will definitely realize it soon. I am not saying that you are bad person. I am saying that it takes time to realize.

I need to realize?? really??

have you ever been cheated, betrayed.. I am talking like this because I have gone through terrible things that happen to me, my family and my friends..

I got cheater, betrayed by someone i trusted, my family was cheated and we lost lot of money. we couldnt do a thing. ppl who cheated us are happy, they dont feel bad about it, if they did they wouldnt have done it in first place.

u know the most terrible thing that I saw. my maids daughter was raped, we supported her a lot in catching the guy infact we encouraged her to lodge a fir. nothing happened dude?? even after knowing who it is we couldnt do a thing, just because his family had money, and we didnt.

 

Source:

kar·ma

ˈkärmə/

noun

 

1. (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences.

   • informal

     destiny or fate, following as effect from cause.

      

     _ seriously... you think that I am talking without knowing the meaning

 

world is full of different ppl. everyone will not feel the same. not everyone will have the same morale. not everyone will have empathy..

you said I need to realize and will take time right.. this is what you need to realize.. there are bad people who do really bad things, they get away with it, they are also happy bcoz they are powerful.. this might be a shock to you but yeh there are coz seems like you are living in some ideal world..

how many people get killed in bomb blasts? please dont tell me its their karma..

 

Again dude.. y do you take everything personal and start immediately judging people. i talk like this coz my blood boils whenever I think of those ppl who made some lives really miserable and are doing very good really happy. ee time lo vachi karma vastadi chestadi ani bongu boshanam ani matladte elaa untadi...

if you be honest work hard you will lead a good life.. yes this is obvious. and I already said that I agree with you..I am not talking about those.. I am bringing out the exceptions and pointing out to the thread starter that there is nothing called "Law of Karma"  bcoz if it is a law then there will not be any exceptions..

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[MrDexter]

wtffff u know about me to judge me.. I thnk that I can get away with bad things. how the fkk u can decide what i think., did i say that.. y r u taking it personally....
did i comment abt ur qualities or anything abt you in my post.. i purely kept it to the subject... 

 

you cant keep yourself in the center of the universe when you look at it.. not all ppl feel what you feel.

 

world is full of different ppl. everyone will not feel the same. not everyone will have the same morale. not everyone will have empathy..

you said I need to realize and will take time right.. this is what you need to realize.. there are bad people who do really bad things, they get away with it, they are also happy bcoz they are powerful.. this might be a shock to you but yeh there are coz seems like you are living in some ideal world..

how many people get killed in bomb blasts? please dont tell me its their karma..

 

Again dude.. y do you take everything personal and start immediately judging people. i talk like this coz my blood boils whenever I think of those ppl who made some lives really miserable and are doing very good really happy. ee time lo vachi karma vastadi chestadi ani bongu boshanam ani matladte elaa untadi...

if you be honest work hard you will lead a good life.. yes this is obvious. and I already said that I agree with you..I am not talking about those.. I am bringing out the exceptions and pointing out to the thread starter that there is nothing called "Law of Karma"  bcoz if it is a law then there will not be any exceptions..

 Your response reminds me of a saying, " Sree Rama anna boothu laa anipisthundhi janalaki ani". I did not take it personally nor i want to disrespect you. I dont even know you. All i was trying to say is, the way i see karma, " Be Good Do good you will have a good life". 

 

About bomb blasts and injustice etc. etc.... remember that world as a whole will be a peaceful place to live when every individual realizes his place on this earth and adopts good practices. No government, No Ideaology, No War or Revolution will fix the problesm in the world. It is upto the individuals. 

 

A group of honest individuals can bring change in a village 'next->town', 'next->City', 'next-> State', 'next->Country'. It is not the other way where government brings some change. It has to be bottom up approach and not top down.

 

Also try not to be over emotional. In order to participate in debates and share your thoughts you have to be elegant and dignified in your speech. I said you might not have realized something yet. It wasnt a insult or it wasnt a bad word. If it really caused some disturbance to you then i am sory. Also i said sory in the same post as well. So just chill and participate in healthy debates.

[The Warrior]

evadra neenu lenandi.. vacha adukondi mee doubts