dasara_bullodu Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 You keep avoiding my basic question. Is the society that blames them for hogging reservation seats a decent society? yes ... dalits might be opressed before independence.. but now as a community they have everything to use to mingle and compete with things in society... still they don't want to do it because .. Oh yeah we are dalits and we are opressed !
dasara_bullodu Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 sorry to say but Telugu students in the IIT madras (majority of them) are fine examples of casteist arrogance. You don't want to even grant that the environment in which dalits are forced to study is radically different from what a regular guy studies? Some see caste in education... some don't see that .. Rohit vemula saw the first part and he lost ... he is a loser by ideology and see what he has become ! matter over .. bye
dasara_bullodu Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 The free pass that dalits gets in education and jobs... oh my god I can't even imagine.. no wonder so many current upper caste guys have to keep searching for option abroad
lazybugger Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 Oh you can take proofs from my friends... a dalit friend of mine is called as my Guru because we both were roommates and friends for a long time.... what those leaders project as hate is never there in between students.. I am ashamed that relations are ending up in caste because of hatred of few manipulated minds I studied in 90% brahmin school.I never cared for friends. But I remember just 2 Muslim guys in our class. One of them was a great drummer,flutist,long jumper,marathon runner. I still remember how excited he was playing songs of roja.he was so happy to know that their was a Muslim composer. He used to explain to me how rahman changed Indian music, but I never understood that or his enthusiasm. He was too weak in studies. Probably because he wasn't interested in it. But the last time I saw, he had gotten a PhD in physics. He left his dream of being an athlete,a musician and chose to study because he got in through Muslim quota. I was so happy for him
andhrapradesh@123 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 The free pass that dalits gets in education and jobs... oh my god I can't even imagine.. no wonder so many current upper caste guys have to keep searching for option abroad Some but not all can and have the opportunity to go abroad. Most of the upper caste people are leading their lives in poverty and in silence.
lazybugger Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 Some see caste in education... some don't see that .. Rohit vemula saw the first part and he lost ... he is a loser by ideology and see what he has become ! matter over .. bye What's your ideology? To sit on judgement over the dead?
dasara_bullodu Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 I studied in 90% brahmin school.I never cared for friends. But I remember just 2 Muslim guys in our class. One of them was a great drummer,flutist,long jumper,marathon runner. I still remember how excited he was playing songs of roja.he was so happy to know that their was a Muslim composer. He used to explain to me how rahman changed Indian music, but I never understood that or his enthusiasm. He was too weak in studies. Probably because he wasn't interested in it. But the last time I saw, he had gotten a PhD in physics. He left his dream of being an athlete,a musician and chose to study because he got in through Muslim quota. I was so happy for him And then you start saying that muslims are backward ? Then how come he got a PhD in Physics eh ?
dasara_bullodu Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 What's your ideology? To sit on judgement over the dead? Oh my ideology is karma... what you do is what you get
lazybugger Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 The free pass that dalits gets in education and jobs... oh my god I can't even imagine.. no wonder so many current upper caste guys have to keep searching for option abroad Dalits don't get free pass. Public education belongs to the public,and cannot be filled with only upper caste seats, even if they are meritorious. Dalits are part of the public,so they have the right to quota.so do muslims
lazybugger Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 And then you start saying that muslims are backward ? Then how come he got a PhD in Physics eh ? He's simply awesome in whatever he does.
lazybugger Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 Filling govt jobs based on merit is disaster. What if particular caste corner maximum jobs? Will they serve other castes without bias? There has to be proportional distribution
lazybugger Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 Oh my ideology is karma... what you do is what you get Then why are you bothered about what dalits do? Is that part of your karma?
lazybugger Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 And then you start saying that muslims are backward ? Then how come he got a PhD in Physics eh ? The point of the story is quotas are helpful for the student. It can give them a chance at a good life. I never thought that my friend was such a stud in maths. Plenty better than a lot of upper caste friends who became junior partners at some financial firm like I did. The only thing left to do is for the VCs and professors to show some decency while dealing with these reservation candidates.
rapchik Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 Today, I'm Coming Out As Dalit Rohith Vemula, the Dalit scholar from Hyderabad Central University who took his own life on January 18th, wanted to write about the stars. His mind was a 'glorious thing made of stardust', whose proof he left in his last letter to the world. In life, his education - a chunk of it financed by his mother's earnings as a tailor - was an act of rebellion. In death, he blazed a trail on Dalit rights, whose brightness refuses to be ignored. By the media, by the bureaucracy, by the Internet and by me. I was born in a Dalit family in Ajmer, Rajasthan. And I grew up learning to hide it. My convent school education, a non-Dalit sounding last name, and a skin color that was 'dusky but still not dirty' eased my passing as a non-Dalit. "Beta, what caste are you from?" "Aunty, Brahmin." A lie I spoke so often and with such conviction, that I not only fooled my friends' mothers but even myself. But I couldn't fool the shame that spread my face each time someone mentioned 'caste', 'reservation', 'bhangi' - the common slur, which loosely translates to a human scavenger and the name of my exact caste. 'This time, they'll find out', I had thought when the undergraduate college I attended tucked my name under the SC/ST quota or when I submitted my birth certificate for my first job at an ad agency. Some did find out, some didn't. Most didn't care. The ones who did (a friend, who along with her parents witnessed my first public admission of being 'low-caste' at 15) stopped being in touch. But I always cared. I cared enough to lie about my caste and to create elaborate backstories to protect that lie. I conveniently forgot the last name my grandfather dropped to allow him to pass, almost 60 years ago - Nidaniya. Until today when I visited Rohith Vemula's posthumous Facebook page. And realized that he had sent me a Facebook request ten days ago, which I had promptly ignored. Maybe he saw some Dalit right groups I had liked and wanted to reach out. And reach out he did. He made me 'come out' to the people I grew up hiding from, wanting to fit in with. He made me recognize that my history is one of oppression and not shame. He made me acknowledge that my great grandfather learned to write by scrawling a stick in the mud because the higher caste schoolteacher forbade him from holding a slate. And he made me proud. I know I am not alone to feel this. There are many of us whose experiences of growing up Dalit and navigating a society that forces us to feel shame, need to be told and heard. That's why I am starting Documents of Dalit Discrimination. A safe space for conversation about caste that needs to go beyond 'reservation' and 'merit' and voices that echo the hurt so many of us suffer silently. Let us hear stories of pride, of history and ownership against the emotional, personal, physical and mental toll of the caste system. Let it be known that Rohith's birth was no 'fatal accident'. (Yashica Dutt is a New York-based writer covering gender, culture, and identity. She has reported from India, Nepal, Bhutan, Turkey and Hungary and was previously a Principal Correspondent at Brunch, Hindustan Times.) After this his father says he is not SC... he is BC...lol [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JwAUOA2JF8[/media] @3$% @3$% @3$%
rapchik Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 Holding back stipend money,not implementing reservation policy whenever convenient etc. Dalits fight all this and more in campuses across the country. And after all the fight you thoigh and fought with fellow member for dalit rights.. his father said he was not dalit ... he himself fooled everyone [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JwAUOA2JF8[/media]
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