Chuck Grassley: It’s Time The H-1B Visa Program Puts Americans First

[Bathai_Babji]

1 hour ago, papampasivadu said:

okay bhayya...utsaha paduthunnav kabatti oka case study eskundham:

person 1: stanford lo ms chesadu...google hire cheskundi opt medha...150k ki...

person 2,3,4: TCS hyderabad branch...bay area lo project ani cheppi 70k each H1 file chesaru...

person 1 pick avvala...2,3,4 pick ayyay...

Nee opinion cheppu above scenario meedha...

Let's study this Stanford lo M.S chesadu antey vadiki one offer undavu, minimum 3 offers lenidhey bari loki digadu. oka vela vadini google hire chesi H1 file chesindhi antey Google vadi lobbying lo ochesthadhi. Okavela adhi kuda raledhu vadiki antey, vadiki unna academics tho ph.d join ayyi adhey google company lo intern ga chesthadu and google might sponsor it too. so he has options and the matter here is at person level.

coming to the second scenario 2,3,4 TCS india nunchi vesi ikkadiki pampisthundhi antey definite ga vadu important resource ayyi untadu and ikkada unna manager recommend chesthey ne kani vadi application mundhuku podhu. vadiki 70K isthunadu antey definite ga client deggara oka 100K chupisthadu and rest you know where money goes. Lets say in this case 2,3,4 ki pick avaledhu em chesthadu ? Malli Ikkada H1 ni hire chesthadu entha pay ki same pay ki entha charge chesthadu client ki same ... So, Ikkada matter enti antey this is at the company (organization) level. Which is almost a scam kind of ....

If you compare the same no.1 guy who didn't get H1 picked  vs no.5 guy who studied in a Kufli University (Mine same univ) and got H1 picked then your case is valid and what ever the rules they want to implement makes sense.  But, the case of 2,3,4 is just a scam and Desi MNC's should feel the wrath.

[kick_seenu]

13 minutes ago, mastercheif said:

petition file chesedi company not individual  , and company is already filing tax if they are operating here in US.

 

20k MS quota ichedi individuals ki not companies.. so alane candidate should be important while picking lottery

[kick_seenu]

also 10 years legal ga taxes katte vadiki automatic icheyali GC  -- eb2 eb3 gola lekunda

[kevinUsa]

1 hour ago, Quickgun_murugan said:

I completely agree

 

meru emi anna correct 

[mastercheif]

4 minutes ago, kick_seenu said:

also 10 years legal ga taxes katte vadiki automatic icheyali GC  -- eb2 eb3 gola lekunda

yeah yeah..

[TampaChinnodu]

17 minutes ago, mastercheif said:

petition file chesedi company not individual  , and company is already filing tax if they are operating here in US.

 

Lets have a new rule to have them pay taxes for active h1b candidate regardless of if candidate is in USA or not. Then I will agree with your statement.

[princeofheaven]

18 minutes ago, Bathai_Babji said:

Let's study this Stanford lo M.S chesadu antey vadiki one offer undavu, minimum 3 offers lenidhey bari loki digadu. oka vela vadini google hire chesi H1 file chesindhi antey Google vadi lobbying lo ochesthadhi. Okavela adhi kuda raledhu vadiki antey, vadiki unna academics tho ph.d join ayyi adhey google company lo intern ga chesthadu and google might sponsor it too. so he has options and the matter here is at person level.

coming to the second scenario 2,3,4 TCS india nunchi vesi ikkadiki pampisthundhi antey definite ga vadu important resource ayyi untadu and ikkada unna manager recommend chesthey ne kani vadi application mundhuku podhu. vadiki 70K isthunadu antey definite ga client deggara oka 100K chupisthadu and rest you know where money goes. Lets say in this case 2,3,4 ki pick avaledhu em chesthadu ? Malli Ikkada H1 ni hire chesthadu entha pay ki same pay ki entha charge chesthadu client ki same ... So, Ikkada matter enti antey this is at the company (organization) level. Which is almost a scam kind of ....

If you compare the same no.1 guy who didn't get H1 picked  vs no.5 guy who studied in a Kufli University (Mine same univ) and got H1 picked then your case is valid and what ever the rules they want to implement makes sense.  But, the case of 2,3,4 is just a scam and Desi MNC's should feel the wrath.

alanti odini ee canada or India aina pampistaru google comp

[reality]

9 minutes ago, papampasivadu said:

130k lite teesko bhayya...impossible assala except for nyc and sfo or places like that...adhi kanuka pass aythe andharam pack up ee except that stanford guy and desi manager level ppl...

Implementation partner system ni teesesi client managed team with contractors system pedithe all mnc's as well as desi employers will qualify...category of candidates antava, ikkada ms batch and direct h1b batch andhariki equal share of pie dorukuddhi...

 

neu 2012 lo bay area lo oka company ki chese vadni...manager and 2 fulltime emp maa team lo...rest all contractors..manager talent ni batti teskune vadu irrespective of candidate represented by mnc or small american vendor...kani 2013 lo aa team mottham wipro ki icchesaru implementation partner ani....mottham andharni clean chesesi vadi ppl ni tecchukunnadu India nunchi...that's why i feel that contracting is still fine but implementation partner system is screwing up...

also imp pratner system lo vadu easy ga 6 members chese pani ni 12 members kavalani deminstrate chesi extra 6 H1 lu eskuntunnadu to retain them...client wont care unless he's being billed...

There you go you started to sound uncertain and paradox about how one would approach your thought process.

Just nuvvu anukuntunnattu implemention partner thiseyyali ane system radhu, unless there is a supporting regulation. Edhaina regulations thone sadhyam, 130k rule or any such rule lekunda cutdown sadhyam kadhu, vallu adhe chesthe all h1s ki bokka khayam...

Lets even assume there would be such system that facilitates your wishes. Spare a thought for the end client, how hard is it for them to invest their valuabl time and money in picking up the so-called bright candidates, especially in the fast paced IT world. Do you think that will even work? Thats why th clients are leaning on to staffing companies and so on...you can't expect a client to manage a h1b worker, thats more than an overhead for them.

In your example above, though that Client might have got kathhi lanti kurrollu in the form of contractors, they might have lost bigger $ value in using client resources to manage those contractors. So, they preferred better option to go with a Vendor managed system (I am not supporting wipro, just telling you the reality)

 

 

 

 

[stockdazzler]

2 hours ago, reality said:

Edhava lanzakodukulu....pi nunchi digi paddattu feel avuthunnaru ga....bayativallu lekapothe eppudo sanka nakipoyedhi ee desham...

thammudu mana desam lo andhra nunchie TN velithey ni gola dengutharu. a Mumbai sena gurinchie cheppannakarledu . alanti valla desam lo istam vacchie nattu desi consultancies abuse chestunte vellu chestundi chala takkuva.

 

[reality]

1 minute ago, stockdazzler said:

thammudu mana desam lo andhra nunchie TN velithey ni gola dengutharu. a Mumbai sena gurinchie cheppannakarledu . alanti valla desam lo istam vacchie nattu desi consultancies abuse chestunte vellu chestundi chala takkuva.

 

Thammudu nuvvu citizen aa...aathmagouravam chatukuntunnav...

[mastercheif]

30 minutes ago, kick_seenu said:

20k MS quota ichedi individuals ki not companies.. so alane candidate should be important while picking lottery

nice point

[user789]

51 minutes ago, Bathai_Babji said:

Let's study this Stanford lo M.S chesadu antey vadiki one offer undavu, minimum 3 offers lenidhey bari loki digadu. oka vela vadini google hire chesi H1 file chesindhi antey Google vadi lobbying lo ochesthadhi. Okavela adhi kuda raledhu vadiki antey, vadiki unna academics tho ph.d join ayyi adhey google company lo intern ga chesthadu and google might sponsor it too. so he has options and the matter here is at person level.

coming to the second scenario 2,3,4 TCS india nunchi vesi ikkadiki pampisthundhi antey definite ga vadu important resource ayyi untadu and ikkada unna manager recommend chesthey ne kani vadi application mundhuku podhu. vadiki 70K isthunadu antey definite ga client deggara oka 100K chupisthadu and rest you know where money goes. Lets say in this case 2,3,4 ki pick avaledhu em chesthadu ? Malli Ikkada H1 ni hire chesthadu entha pay ki same pay ki entha charge chesthadu client ki same ... So, Ikkada matter enti antey this is at the company (organization) level. Which is almost a scam kind of ....

If you compare the same no.1 guy who didn't get H1 picked  vs no.5 guy who studied in a Kufli University (Mine same univ) and got H1 picked then your case is valid and what ever the rules they want to implement makes sense.  But, the case of 2,3,4 is just a scam and Desi MNC's should feel the wrath.

Agree. cl1ent is sufforting  2, 3,4 ki 

Cl1ient wants someone to manage all their projects instead of keeping 4-5 desi mesthri's. Cl1ent doesn't want to manage resources... 

Independent khuli eppudu ayina can leave, kani mnc aithe..if someone else, they can bring another resource on time...

Simple logic ...Cl1ent doesn't want any headache at all either to manage res0rces nor pr0jects...he wants to get work done...evaru convince chesthe cl1ient vadiki pr0jects..

performance /sucess rate anthe thokka. oka 4-5 yrs lo impact telsthudi..no one will rememeber...

..Also, mnc's quote low I guess.. % share ela ayina teeskuntarooo mgr's....

anduke every Cl1ent is also encouraging..and ee chetha mnc's are kick1ng out everryone else...last 3-4 yrs lo way too much...

bay area, ny, nj, tx ..etc- 80- 90% 2,3,4 gale...

[mastercheif]

Just now, papampasivadu said:

I agree with the supporting regulation part...but the science of policy making is to find a middle ground...let us leave the legal technicalities as neither of us are experts in that area...

 

How hard is it for them to pick an ideal candidate man??? 30 mins interview is all it takes...situation ni exaggerate chestunnav ani naa opinion.. even from the client perspective, it is always cheaper to have an inhouse manager than completely leaving it to implementation partner..

all ideal candidates are not always available.. worth unte client will not let them go easily.

so 30 mins lo decide cheyyachu but candidate dorakali, matter unna vaadiki demands yekkuva .matter leni vaadu yekkadiki ramanna vasthadu yela rammanna vasthadu

[Quickgun_murugan]

42 minutes ago, kevinUsa said:

meru emi anna correct 

LOL... how are you bro? @kevinUsa

[reality]

12 minutes ago, papampasivadu said:

I agree with the supporting regulation part...but the science of policy making is to find a middle ground...let us leave the legal technicalities as neither of us are experts in that area...

 

How hard is it for them to pick an ideal candidate man??? 30 mins interview is all it takes...situation ni exaggerate chestunnav ani naa opinion.. even from the client perspective, it is always cheaper to have an inhouse manager than completely leaving it to implementation partner..

You got me wrong dude, na concern antha vachhesi, Ee half-baked and unpredicatable policy ni chusi pandaga chesukune valla pina, emi theliyakundane uncertainily lo edho manchi jaragabothundhi anna brama lo unnaru...

Inka nee wishes vishyaniki vasthe, nice wishes, but reality ki vasthe ne konchem kastam.... 

For ex: Half an hour lo thelcheyochha bright candidate ni, that too a client person?

 

 

Lastly, may the scientists of that policy find a way to implement what you are wishing for, dude...Amen