ee yellow batch ki emaindi

[lazybugger]

Hindutva will not have support from 100% hindus, because it is exploitative. 

even if it becomes a cultural phenomenon, economic forces will rise against it.

[Unityunity]

6 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

okay. lets end this. I understand where you come from. but I don't agree with you.

feel free to consider me an idiot or whatever, and put me on ignore. for your own sake.

Thats proves ..you know it your doing wrong.but still you want to continue..the wrong thing ..

[lazybugger]

If Hindutva morphs into socialist model, I'd be in full support of it though.

but only as federated communities that control their own destiny, and not through a command center.

That was the way Hindutva was moving towards, until Modi came along, and made sucking up to industrialists as cool.

[tables]

3 hours ago, Pipucbn said:

Weekend yellow PPTs ready chesukuntunnaru anukunta

Pipucbn ante?

[Unityunity]

9 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

If Hindutva morphs into socialist model, I'd be in full support of it though.

but only as federated communities that control their own destiny, and not through a command center.

That was the way Hindutva was moving towards, until Modi came along, and made sucking up to industrialists as cool.

You came  the topic from India... to hindutva.. be specific with your topic...if. your coming  out of the topic.. pls understand clearly between india  and ......you want hate hindutva.. you can but don't  hate your country...(India)

[lazybugger]

Since I've been in RSS, and used to have plenty of RSS friends (not now), I'm familiar with recent RSS history.

Hindutva rose as a movement to challenge the elite (congress) socialist model with an ethnic one grounded in reality.

but the more economy was liberalised, the initial benefactors of this movement shifted gears to suck up to neoliberal ideas.

Now BJP has gone one up on the Congress in trying to become a fascist totalitarian state, using religion as the controlling tool.

Its silly to ask the question why someone is anti-india. Its a scary totalitarian state. Any person with some value for human dignity will be anti-India.

[lazybugger]

4 minutes ago, Unityunity said:

You came  the topic from India... to hindutva.. be specific with your topic...if. your coming  out of the topic.. pls understand clearly between india  and ......you want hate hindutva.. you can but don't  hate your country...(India)

India is a hindutva lab. both are interchangeable, now more than ever.

but nehruvian times were no better. just that more people deluded themselves that india was a secular state. no more.

[lazybugger]

I'm done.  

[Unityunity]

4 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

Since I've been in RSS, and used to have plenty of RSS friends (not now), I'm familiar with recent RSS history.

Hindutva rose as a movement to challenge the elite (congress) socialist model with an ethnic one grounded in reality.

but the more economy was liberalised, the initial benefactors of this movement shifted gears to suck up to neoliberal ideas.

Now BJP has gone one up on the Congress in trying to become a fascist totalitarian state, using religion as the controlling tool.

Its silly to ask the question why someone is anti-india. Its a scary totalitarian state. Any person with some value for human dignity will be anti-India.

I already said to you...political parties are doing for their survival....but still most of the people indians are respect to other communities...you can not be anti india.. just because  of this bullshit parties...

[Unityunity]

4 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

I'm done. 

6 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

India is a hindutva lab. both are interchangeable, now more than ever.

but nehruvian times were no better. just that more people deluded themselves that india was a secular state. no more.

 

Aha aha  just come  out of your dump old knowledge....india is country of all communities...just remove your  brain washed  knowledge from your mind...so its good for your health too....

 

[Unityunity]

33 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

country is not a person. If you love your country, the way you love a person, there's something wrong with you.

 

Problem is you did not love  to anyone...if you loves either person. Country or things  than probably ...you know the reaction 

[lazybugger]

31 minutes ago, Unityunity said:

You came  the topic from India... to hindutva.. be specific with your topic...if. your coming  out of the topic.. pls understand clearly between india  and ......you want hate hindutva.. you can but don't  hate your country...(India)

what do you want to know? why I'm anti-India?

do you even know India's history and number of promises it broke after begging for princely states and provinces like Madras to join the union?

I don't have a problem with India if it lives up to its initial promise of a federation, with some adjustments for changing times and new economic realities. But that's not the India now. I will hate it. I will talk against it.

I have good reason to. your defenses are rather weak.

[lazybugger]

15 minutes ago, Unityunity said:

Problem is you did not love  to anyone...if you loves either person. Country or things  than probably ...you know the reaction 

your problem is that you don't have a problem with India killing someone in your name, but you'll advise others who have a problem with it. and never ask your India why it is killing them.

If you consider this as compromise to keep a country together, then hating a country is also part of it.

Its up to the country to decide how to react to that hate. Whether to become a fascist state, or listen to those who hate it are the two choices.

I know which one you want your govt to choose. you shouldn't even be talking about 'love'.

Its a rather slipper slope though. Soon ruling govts will treat opposition govts (who act within the guidelines of constitution) as haters too. good luck with your 'love'.

 

[lazybugger]

People read about Indian Philosophy before you spout nonsense here.

not spiritual, but materialistic modern political philosophy out of India.

ask me for books if you want.

don't argue like fcuking fools, without understanding the history of India.

being cool about it is one thing, but acting like deranged nationalists is not going to make india great. It'll make it a reflection of you. insecure, loud, obnoxious, and pathetic.

Its alright if you are Hindutva. but that movement has a history too. read about it. and see which part of its history seems more humane, and more sustainable to you.

India can exist as a nation, only if it recognizes the various subidentities inside it. If delhi is too proud of giving space to everyone, then fcuk them. Let delhi work out a way to achieve this. Don't be apologist to delhi.

India is not a sacred idea that lived a million years. Its hardly 70yrs old.

[Android_Halwa]

43 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

I'm done.