tennisluvr Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Posted August 31, 2017 Originator of the MAVNI program Margaret D. Stock Location: Anchorage, Alaska Phone: 888-494-1486 Fax: 360-676-5759 Email: Email Me Margaret Stock focuses her practice on immigration and citizenship law. She is a nationally known expert on immigration and national security laws, and has testified regularly before Congressional committees on immigration, homeland security, and military matters. As a retired Lieutenant Colonel in the Military Police, U.S. Army Reserve, Margaret has extensive experience with U.S. military issues. She has also worked as a professor at the United States Military Academy at West Point, and as an adjunct instructor at the University of Alaska. Margaret is a member of the board of the Federal Bar Association’s Immigration Law Section and a former member of the American Bar Association’s Commission on Immigration. In 2013, she was named a MacArthur Foundation Fellow (“genius grant” recipient) by the John D. & Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation. Areas of Practice Immigration Immigration & Naturalization Law Litigation Percentage 10% of Practice Devoted to Litigation Bar Admissions Alaska U.S. District Court District of Alaska U.S. Court of Appeals 9th Circuit Education Harvard Law School, Cambridge, Massachusetts J.D. - 1992 Honors: With High Honors U.S. Army War College M.A. - 2006 Major: Masters of Strategic Studies Harvard Kennedy School of Government M.P.A. - 2002 Harvard and Radcliffe Colleges A.B. Honors: With High Honors Major: Government Classes/Seminars National Security Law, Constitutional Law, Military Law, Immigration & Citizenship Law Professional Associations and Memberships American Bar Association American Immigration Lawyers Association Association of the Bar of the City of New York Federal Bar Association Federalist Society for Law & Public Policy Fellowship of Fort Knox Immigration Lawyers Past Employment Positions Lane Powell, LLC, Anchorage, AK , Counsel to the Firm, 2011 - 2013 Department of Political Science, University of Alaska Anchorage , Adjunct Instructor, 2010 - 2012 Border Policy Research Institute, Western Washington University , Visiting Fellow, 2009 United States Military Academy at West Point, Associate Professor(Reservist) Department of Social Sciences , 2006 - 2010 United States Military Academy at West Point, Associate Professor, Department of Law , 2004 - 2006 United States Military Academy at West Point, Assistant Professor, Department of Law, 2001 - 2004 Stock & Moeller, LLC , Partner, 1998 - 2001 Atkinson, Conway & Gagnon , Associate, 1992 - 1998 Pro Bono Activities American Immigration Lawyers Association Military Assistance Program Languages English (Primary) Spanish Quote
Semper_Fi Posted August 31, 2017 Report Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, tennisluvr said: Thanks for confirming how utterly clueless you are about the whole program, it figures. MAVNI was drafted by a Lt Col in the Army who was one of the main members of the think tank that looked into the shortages faced by the Army when it comes to skilled personnel. I am sure you must belong to the breed of "thinkers" that thinks an Army is all about it's ground troops who have the boots on ground in the battlefield. Behind that, there's a huge network of experts that are required to even facilitate a ground invasion where the US Army found itself short staffed, as a lot of people with advanced degrees and the ability to carry out such tasks were in short supply. On top of that, the US Army had a huge shortage of Medical personnel, the ones that take care of the injured on the ground and are responsible for ensuring the success or failure of an operation. This also includes the dentists btw who were in short supply as well. To counter all these shortages, the MAVNI program was formed. The US Army isn't a Citizenship dispensing machine, and isn't doling out freebies to people. It's a give and take, where citizenship is provided in lieu of services that are rendered by this valuable personnel. But then I am sure a half baked expert would have no understanding of all this. Might I suggest you not to give a fu*k brah. You can't wake someone up who is pretending to sleep. Don't waste your time explaining fam. 1 Quote
libraguy863 Posted August 31, 2017 Report Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, tennisluvr said: Some clueless people like above think citizenship is being doled out for free by US Army without any benefit for them in return. They are thinking US Army is a charity organization Little do they know that a lot of positions in the Army require us to have security clearance which can only be granted for citizens, which is the main reason behind naturalizing MAVNIs. Bro I know wt is security clearance so .. don't even go there. MAVNI valla ki different stream vuntadi eb2/eb3 crap lekuda correct me if I'm wrong . Quote
tennisluvr Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Posted August 31, 2017 So a Harvard Law school graduate, professor at West Point Academy(home of most of the generals in the US Military and an institution even more selective than Harvard or MIT), a MacArthur "Genius grant" award winner, a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army and an independent nominee for the governor of Alaska decides to make a program to dole out free "citizenships" for people to enlist in the US Army. Guess keyboard warriors that exist on random forums know way more about US military policy than her. 1 Quote
tennisluvr Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, libraguy863 said: Bro I know wt is security clearance so .. don't even go there. MAVNI valla ki different stream vuntadi eb2/eb3 crap lekuda correct me if I'm wrong . What's EB2 and EB3? How's that related to the MAVNI program at all? Quote
tennisluvr Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Semper_Fi said: Might I suggest you not to give a fu*k brah. You can't wake someone up who is pretending to sleep. Don't waste your time explaining fam. Thanks bruh, it's sometimes fun to put some trolls in their place though. It's easy too, since they are mostly full of s**t anyway. Quote
libraguy863 Posted August 31, 2017 Report Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, tennisluvr said: What's EB2 and EB3? How's that related to the MAVNI program at all? Very funny 😂 good that niku ala ardam iyndi. Well I came here on f1 h1 applied for GC and sitting in the line for my turn. Well you must be born here so Niku ee Eb1/2/3 gurinchi teliyadu emo Le. Take it easy and move on Quote
tennisluvr Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Posted August 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, libraguy863 said: Very funny 😂 good that niku ala ardam iyndi. Well I came here on f1 h1 applied for GC and sitting in the line for my turn. Well you must be born here so Niku ee Eb1/2/3 gurinchi teliyadu emo Le. Take it easy and move on No I am not born here. it's sometimes tough to know who's trolling and who's asking genuinely. Anyway to answer your earlier question, EB2/EB3 are employment based Green Card categories. MAVNI has nothing to do with a Green card, even if you are a Green Card holder you have to gain security clearance to work in most of the positions that a MAVNI enlistee chooses to work on. So it's the same process for naturalization whether you are a GC holder or whether you are a visa holder on EB2/EB3 employment based green card categories. I hope I've been able to answer your question. Quote
siru Posted August 31, 2017 Report Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, tennisluvr said: The problem is that once the DACAs were thrown into the MAVNI mix the program became unsustainable. a lot of the DACAs can't be vetted properly which means that they needed additional resources to conduct the background checks on those soldiers, and since they don't have enough manpower the backlog grew. That's what killed the program, not just the fact that their recruiting targets were met. The originator of the program Lt Col Stock suggested then itself that it's a bad idea to include DACAs into the MAVNI mix and that the DACAs should have their own separate program if Obama wished for them to serve in the military. No one listened to her then, now both MAVNI program has been killed and DACA is rescinded. Good job Obama, another one of your utter failures. lol endi man nee gola..Obama paina padi edustunnav..r u republican tissue? Quote
siru Posted August 31, 2017 Report Posted August 31, 2017 29 minutes ago, tennisluvr said: So a Harvard Law school graduate, professor at West Point Academy(home of most of the generals in the US Military and an institution even more selective than Harvard or MIT), a MacArthur "Genius grant" award winner, a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army and an independent nominee for the governor of Alaska decides to make a program to dole out free "citizenships" for people to enlist in the US Army. Guess keyboard warriors that exist on random forums know way more about US military policy than her. nee gola ikkada evadiki pattadu kani poyyi mee lanti free citizenship kosam chuse vallaki konni forums vuntai ga akkada eduv Quote
Vishwaksena Posted August 31, 2017 Report Posted August 31, 2017 39 minutes ago, tennisluvr said: Thanks for confirming how utterly clueless you are about the whole program, it figures. MAVNI was drafted by a Lt Col in the Army who was one of the main members of the think tank that looked into the shortages faced by the Army when it comes to skilled personnel. I am sure you must belong to the breed of "thinkers" that thinks an Army is all about it's ground troops who have the boots on ground in the battlefield. Behind that, there's a huge network of experts that are required to even facilitate a ground invasion where the US Army found itself short staffed, as a lot of people with advanced degrees and the ability to carry out such tasks were in short supply. On top of that, the US Army had a huge shortage of Medical personnel, the ones that take care of the injured on the ground and are responsible for ensuring the success or failure of an operation. This also includes the dentists btw who were in short supply as well. To counter all these shortages, the MAVNI program was formed. The US Army isn't a Citizenship dispensing machine, and isn't doling out freebies to people. It's a give and take, where citizenship is provided in lieu of services that are rendered by this valuable personnel. But then I am sure a half baked expert would have no understanding of all this. Oh spare me all the BS about what army basically is. Don't fool yourself that you are doing an extraordinary job and serving an extraordinary country. Answer this one question. Would you join MAVNI if there is no path for naturalization? Quote
tennisluvr Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, siru said: nee gola ikkada evadiki pattadu kani poyyi mee lanti free citizenship kosam chuse vallaki konni forums vuntai ga akkada eduv Pretty sure you are the one that is looking for freebie, must be used to it. Don't try to show your ignorance when it comes to issues that go right over your head. Quote
siru Posted August 31, 2017 Report Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Vishwaksena said: Oh spare me all the BS about what army basically is. Don't fool yourself that you are doing an extraordinary job and serving an extraordinary country. Answer this one question. Would you join MAVNI if there is no path for naturalization? obviously no he wouldnt. kakapothe edo potugadi laga feel avtaniki army adi idi ani manal lanti vallaki lectures istaru. Quote
siru Posted August 31, 2017 Report Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, tennisluvr said: Pretty sure you are the one that is looking for freebie, must be used to it. Don't try to show your ignorance when it comes to issues that go right over your head. i dont give 2 fucks abt free hand outs like u keep thinking u r a soldier u r worthless than a janitor Quote
tennisluvr Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Vishwaksena said: Oh spare me all the BS about what army basically is. Don't fool yourself that you are doing an extraordinary job and serving an extraordinary country. Answer this one question. Would you join MAVNI if there is no path for naturalization? Haha so now that your hollow claims have been exposed, it's BS. Yes it's BS to those that have no clue about how the process works and what's the reason behind the program being established itself. AGAIN, WHAT PART OF THIS DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? WHAT'S THE ARMY'S PURPOSE BEHIND GRANTING OUT FREE CITIZENSHIPS UNLESS THEY HAVE A BENEFIT OF THEIR OWN. OR DO YOU THINK ARMY IS A CHARITY CASE. Quote
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