WHY NRI's Not willing to comeback to INDIA WHY? India or USA Best

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Ekkado chadiva idi

I would like to quote some observations about NRI's, at the risk of *generalizing*:

* NRI's discuss loudly with other NRI's about how evil the Indian politics is, how painful it is to get a simple work done in India and how cheap the value of life is. Then their discussion ends and they go to bed.

* NRI's frequently curse the junk food that they subject themselves to eat and keep dreaming about the lovely home-made Indian food they are missing out.

* NRI's read Indian news daily to keep themselves abreast of latest developments in India. They also regularly watch Indian movies, continue to go to Indian stores to buy stuff and continue to watch the extra $15/month StarTV and ZeeTV. They continue to meet other NRI's at a party or a get-together and discuss the happenings in India. As time goes by in their adopted country, they soon get settled with their jobs (more or less), have kids going to school (more or less), own cars (definitely), continue to pay off 15-year loan of their house every month and maybe even have a small side-business with members of their extended family. Then, lightning strikes and they realize they are really missing India and wanna go back. But another thunderbolt hits them when they realize its now too late OR too bold OR both.

* NRI's suffer from X=X+1 syndrome; they keep delaying returning back to India by one year. But she never stops tugging at their heart.

Well, after reading that if you thought NRI's are confused bunch of people who are unable to make a decision, read on:

* NRI's are the real ambassadors of India. People of other countries will not go to the Indian consulate abroad to find out about India. Nor will all of them search online. Its sometimes easier to ask their Indian colleague over a cup of coffee. NRI's represent India and they answer all their questions - "Do all Indians speak Hindu?", "Tell me something about caste system in India", "Do all Indians make such spicy food?". Its NRI's who explain to them that Hindi is the language and Hindu is the religion.

* NRI's send money back to India which is indirectly helping India's foreign currency reserve go up. Indirectly because thats not the intention with which the son or daughter sends the money. But nevertheless, NRI's are helping the economy grow.

* NRI's are an inspiration to kids...I am not talking about NRI's from average or better-than-average families of cities and metropolitans, where it is not a big deal as there is a person from just about any family in US or elsewhere. I am talking about lesser developed towns, villages and remote districts. Going abroad may not look like a big deal for the NRI's themselves after some time, but it is viewed as an achievement by families, relatives and relatives' relatives of yesteryears. Kids are shown repeatedly the example of a NRI and how successful his/her path is. If these kids work their way up in life with that dream, they will achieve a lot of success on their way, even if they may not manage to go abroad (forcing an idea on a kid, making him think your way always, can shun him from following his creative ideas; but thats the topic of a different post).

* And the most important thing - NRI's get a chance to see the best of both worlds. Staying away from friends and family in a distant country is a great experience - not only does one start living and thinking independently, s/he gets to see India from a distance. NRI's realize sooner or later whats good for their country and whats not, whats needed and whats not, whats being done right and whats wrong. And even if a small amount of NRI's (yes, even a small amount) do return back with the intention of improving things, its a big plus. Lets face it - India is not the best country, nor is US or UK. Some things are good here, some there. Why not combine it and make life enriching? There is tremendous opportunity for development of India and even a life is not enough.

The world is right before our eyes; we just need to introspect.

[Nellore Pedda reddy]

[quote author=BulletBabu link=topic=82487.msg870937#msg870937 date=1279471347]
In a world where all actions have to be justified by hard logical reasoning, there is little room left for ambivalence or dilemma. This is especially true when it comes to NRIs wanting to return to India. The issue of whether to return has been debated and re-debated for years and very few, if any, have really found a general compelling reason one way or the other. This is because it is an extremely complex topic involving economical, cultural and emotional issues. By sharing my personal experience I hope to share some insights in to this complex issue.
There was a time when I, like all my friends in IIT, dreamt of going to the States for higher education, getting a lucrative job and eventually living the so-called American dream. This was 1988. The way to go was to apply to a university. I got in and by August '88 was ready to leave. Very few asked why I was going. The reasons to go were considered perfectly rational - good education, good jobs and a good standard of living - so obvious that they were not even worth asking. No dilemmas.

Like all first generation immigrants, I encountered the usual roadblocks to adjusting in a new country - financial, emotional and cultural. A meager scholarship had to be used for tuition, rent, food as well as once-a-year trip back home. It was hard but there were several people like me and somehow, we all managed to survive. And eventually thrive as we all ended up with good jobs. The emotional adjustment was relatively easier as we got over the initial homesickness. However, the cultural adjustment was a much longer one and ultimately there were very few who was truly at ease with the American culture. The cultural gap is far bigger than what Indians expect before they arrive. For example, our food habits, topics of conversation, ways of recreation were all quite different. But these were all considered the usual hurdles for a first generation immigrant and therefore never questioned.

Time always seems to fly for everyone, but when living a fast-paced American lifestyle this cliché couldn't be truer. With work, home, spouse and kids with no relatives or domestic help, you tend to live Friday to Friday. And before I knew it, I had already lived in America for over a decade. Like all the Indians I knew, except for very few exceptions, I went on to get a green card - a signal that I have finally 'settled down'. Again, this remained largely unquestioned, unchallenged. When asked on rare occasions, I parroted the usual reasons: poor career prospects and living standards in India. Returning was left more as a vague option - to soothe parents and elders in the family - that would be considered if somehow things changed dramatically. No dilemmas.

But like several others, I nurtured a hidden - almost secret - desire to be able to return one day. This was kept close to my heart but whenever I disclosed this to others I ended up getting really confused. What is the rationale behind this, some would ask. Is it to renew family ties or bring up children in an Indian culture? Is it some vague longing for a past that was left long behind? Or worse, is it some far fetched ambition to serve your country and make a positive change? The very idea was often ridiculed. Horror stories of people suffering after moving back were told as proof of this fallacy. Then there were others who were more ambivalent. Their hearts longed to return but they hadn't figured out how. Some of them planned to work for a few more years and then decide - maybe after completing a new degree; maybe after saving a few more dollars; maybe after having kids. It was popularly known as the'X+1 syndrome'. It was so confusing that I would keep debating with myself but rarely bring it up with others.

And yet, the desire to return seemed to grow stronger everyday. It seemed to grow in some irrational corner of my mind which I knew could never be touched by reason. The only way to deal with it, I thought, is to experience it. So one day, I decided to talk to my boss about the possibility of moving to India and setting up a local branch of the US-based company I worked for. He ignored it initially thinking that it was a passing phase. But when I persisted, he listened. I began to plan a business trip to India to assess the best location, the potential risks and rewards and cost of setting up an operation in India. This was December 2001. By April the next year I had already submitted a business plan to my CEO and got it approved. I had to move back to India by June 2002 on a 2-year assignment. We had less than 6 weeks to pack and leave!

Those 6 weeks were one of the most interesting moments in my life. Having endured the 'X+1' syndrome for years, I felt almost shocked to have to move back so suddenly. On one hand I felt like sitting back and contemplating on the huge change that was about to happen. And on the other, I had almost an endless list of things to do - closing accounts, selling cars and furniture, making travel arrangements, getting kids vaccinated and completing all remaining projects at work. And last but not the least, attending farewell parties. There were so many people who came to visit us during these few weeks, it was unbelievable. There were a wide range of reactions - from sadness that we were leaving to rejoicing in the fact that we were returning to India. Many of them mentioned that I was really lucky and given a similar opportunity they would do the same.

But without exception they all asked the big question, WHY. Is it because of family reasons? Or, is it because of the bad job situation in the States? Or, is it because of September 11? It was as if the catastrophic terrorist attacks could be used to justify almost anything. Now, I was in a big dilemma. What if I said I had no hard reasons? What if I said that I was returning to a place where I felt I belonged? What if I said that I was following my heart - for a change? Would that be too vague, I thought. Finally, I decided to dodge the question. I told them it was a unique career opportunity with an option to come back in case things did not work out well. They all nodded. It was the most rational reason I could come up with. It was best to avoid any debates at this stage, I thought. Besides, I knew no hard reasons existed. May be I'll figure it out one day after settling down in India.

Avijit Goswami in Pune
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atleast nuvvaina mottam sadivav ba......


I dont need a reason to go back to the place where i belong to  #~` #~` #~`

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[b]Only India is better for relatives and family relationships .. that too if we born in India... Other than that... eveything  USA is better....


USA----->System, respect, money, security etc....    If u born in USA.... USA is 100% better than India..... 

India----> corruption, caste, system, Example For example If you need a birth certificate even though u born in same town and grown up for 25 years u have to pay 6K to 10K rs  as a bribe... even, they ask u to come 4 to 8 days... every day.... (happen to my brother for birth certificate) 

many more examples... caste----->  If u r not belong to particular caste... they will treat u disrespect many times happened to many people ...  and caste politics  in government , friends, corporate culture...(Reddy , chowdary, Kapu, vysaa, dalit , madhighaa.)    If congress comes to power, every where u see reddy people in every sector even they r dum as asses.... same as with TDP... 

India-----> Different rules and different benfits based on caste and religion not based on how poor he was....

India------->Education looo reservcation..., Governments jobs looo reservation.........

India-------> If you born in High level caste even though u r poor... u wont get government benefits only ur caste people has to takecare of u...


India---->  Different laws will applied to different kind of people based on his wealth and relationships with political leaders

India------> Politics (coming to politics) only for few people... Who has money ( People dont considered he is murderer , does he involved in any murders before , illegal money, whether he is well educated or not doest nt matter)  Only money plays major role  Example: (Current and Ex-minister both congress and TDP) Misnisters of andhra, Gali Brothers of Karnataka, and Jagan (illegal money))


India----> Difference between states,  They wont treat u has an Indian if u go to other states... unless u know there language.... wars between states due to water(Karanataka and tamilnadu,  karnataka and AP , AP and Maharastra)

India------> Fights and disrespect among people even in one state based on region also...

Many more.... Issues in India... which not resolving from 60 years after Independence.... 

Finally ........................

But still India is growing by its own way (B'coz of youth.... education) Only education is powerful weapon of india...
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[bokkasubbarao]

r8 guyz...U.S.A is the best place to live...in all wayz

Monna nenu India ki vellochanu baa.....entha chirakochindantey....police la... kodukulu..5rs ki 10 rs ki kakkurthi padutunnaru...oka system ledu...oka policy ledu.....bita watchmenla daggari nundi gudilo poojarila daka prathi okkadiki dabbulu ivvali...

sontha sisters tho kuda bitaki velle situation ledu...okavela velte intiki vachevariki 100 mandi comments chestaru...ika galfrns tho velthe ipoinatte...

rapelu,murderlu,dongatanalu ame cheppali raaa jeevitham virekthi puttindi...okkasari U.S.A chusaka india lo undalemu baaa...

adhi kakunda manishi manishiki respect ledu...manishi prananiki viluva ledu..oka example chepta baa.......habsigudalo oka accident ayyindi manishi inka bathike unnadu kani vadi body literalga thukku thukku ayyindi...chuttu 1000 mandi chustunnaru...4 ambulancelu vellinai okkadu kuda vadini hospital ki tisukellaledu.....manam enduku bathukutunnama ani anipinchindi...adhe U.S.A lo ithe okadiki road mida chinna debba tagilithe ambulance,cops,fire engines vastai adhi baaa life security anthe....mani prananiki value le chota unte enti lekapothe enti...

Life really SUCKS in india...last month 50 rapelu....only in hyd...enti baa idhi...ammaila venta tiragadam,tease cheyyadam(vallu hurt avvakunda) tappu kadu anthe kani rape,murder tappu antunna....

nothing is perfect in india,every thing is in somebodys hands....even intha pedda ayyaka kuda indiaki vellaka you need to listen to ur father....nite 10 variki intlo undali...individuality ledu...


As an INDIAN I LOVE india but as a human being i cant live in india....India is no more a safe place........n the HYDERABAD is the HELL on Earth.....if i hurt some one iam sorry but its my personal opinion....

soo take care guyz please ask your sisters to take care each and every second...ask your parents to b careful.....Their happyness is WORTH A MILLION

[Karthik.Y]

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[Nellore Pedda reddy]

[quote author=BulletBabu link=topic=82487.msg870969#msg870969 date=1279472661]
atleast nuvvaina mottam sadivav ba......


I dont need a reason to go back to the place where i belong to  #~` #~` #~`
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Velladam vellakapovadam mana ishtam baa....but u don't need to search for a reason to go back to ur place

[Nellore Pedda reddy]

[quote author=bokkasubbarao link=topic=82487.msg871011#msg871011 date=1279474027]
r8 guyz...U.S.A is the best place to live...in all wayz

Monna nenu India ki vellochanu baa.....entha chirakochindantey....police la... ******..5rs ki 10 rs ki kakkurthi padutunnaru...oka system ledu...oka policy ledu.....bita watchmenla daggari nundi gudilo poojarila daka prathi okkadiki dabbulu ivvali...

sontha sisters tho kuda bitaki velle situation ledu...okavela velte intiki vachevariki 100 mandi comments chestaru...ika galfrns tho velthe ipoinatte...

rapelu,murderlu,dongatanalu ame cheppali raaa jeevitham virekthi puttindi...okkasari U.S.A chusaka india lo undalemu baaa...

adhi kakunda manishi manishiki respect ledu...manishi prananiki viluva ledu..oka example chepta baa.......habsigudalo oka accident ayyindi manishi inka bathike unnadu kani vadi body literalga thukku thukku ayyindi...chuttu 1000 mandi chustunnaru...4 ambulancelu vellinai okkadu kuda vadini hospital ki tisukellaledu.....manam enduku bathukutunnama ani anipinchindi...adhe U.S.A lo ithe okadiki road mida chinna debba tagilithe ambulance,cops,fire engines vastai adhi baaa life security anthe....mani prananiki value le chota unte enti lekapothe enti...

Life really SUCKS in india...last month 50 rapelu....only in hyd...enti baa idhi...ammaila venta tiragadam,tease cheyyadam(vallu hurt avvakunda) tappu kadu anthe kani rape,murder tappu antunna....

nothing is perfect in india,every thing is in somebodys hands....even intha pedda ayyaka kuda indiaki vellaka you need to listen to ur father....nite 10 variki intlo undali...individuality ledu...


As an INDIAN I LOVE india but as a human being i cant live in india....India is no more a safe place........n the HYDERABAD is the HELL on Earth.....if i hurt some one iam sorry but its my personal opinion....

soo take care guyz please ask your sisters to take care each and every second...ask your parents to b careful.....Their happyness is WORTH A MILLION
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Baa....I agree with u that life in US is better

But [b]I can't live in India ani mathram anaku[/b]....endukante manam ikkada putti peragaledu....Akkada nunchi valasa vacham

[b]Nuvvu enni cheppina adi MANA DESAM[/b]

[amayakudu]

[quote author=BulletBabu link=topic=82487.msg870957#msg870957 date=1279472232]
Ekkado chadiva idi

I would like to quote some observations about NRI's, at the risk of *generalizing*:

* NRI's discuss loudly with other NRI's about how evil the Indian politics is, how painful it is to get a simple work done in India and how cheap the value of life is. Then their discussion ends and they go to bed.

* NRI's frequently curse the junk food that they subject themselves to eat and keep dreaming about the lovely home-made Indian food they are missing out.

* NRI's read Indian news daily to keep themselves abreast of latest developments in India. They also regularly watch Indian movies, continue to go to Indian stores to buy stuff and continue to watch the extra $15/month StarTV and ZeeTV. They continue to meet other NRI's at a party or a get-together and discuss the happenings in India. As time goes by in their adopted country, they soon get settled with their jobs (more or less), have kids going to school (more or less), own cars (definitely), continue to pay off 15-year loan of their house every month and maybe even have a small side-business with members of their extended family. Then, lightning strikes and they realize they are really missing India and wanna go back. But another thunderbolt hits them when they realize its now too late OR too bold OR both.

* NRI's suffer from X=X+1 syndrome; they keep delaying returning back to India by one year. But she never stops tugging at their heart.

Well, after reading that if you thought NRI's are confused bunch of people who are unable to make a decision, read on:

* NRI's are the real ambassadors of India. People of other countries will not go to the Indian consulate abroad to find out about India. Nor will all of them search online. Its sometimes easier to ask their Indian colleague over a cup of coffee. NRI's represent India and they answer all their questions - "Do all Indians speak Hindu?", "Tell me something about caste system in India", "Do all Indians make such spicy food?". Its NRI's who explain to them that Hindi is the language and Hindu is the religion.

* NRI's send money back to India which is indirectly helping India's foreign currency reserve go up. Indirectly because thats not the intention with which the son or daughter sends the money. But nevertheless, NRI's are helping the economy grow.

* NRI's are an inspiration to kids...I am not talking about NRI's from average or better-than-average families of cities and metropolitans, where it is not a big deal as there is a person from just about any family in US or elsewhere. I am talking about lesser developed towns, villages and remote districts. Going abroad may not look like a big deal for the NRI's themselves after some time, but it is viewed as an achievement by families, relatives and relatives' relatives of yesteryears. Kids are shown repeatedly the example of a NRI and how successful his/her path is. If these kids work their way up in life with that dream, they will achieve a lot of success on their way, even if they may not manage to go abroad (forcing an idea on a kid, making him think your way always, can shun him from following his creative ideas; but thats the topic of a different post).

* And the most important thing - NRI's get a chance to see the best of both worlds. Staying away from friends and family in a distant country is a great experience - not only does one start living and thinking independently, s/he gets to see India from a distance. NRI's realize sooner or later whats good for their country and whats not, whats needed and whats not, whats being done right and whats wrong. And even if a small amount of NRI's (yes, even a small amount) do return back with the intention of improving things, its a big plus. Lets face it - India is not the best country, nor is US or UK. Some things are good here, some there. Why not combine it and make life enriching? There is tremendous opportunity for development of India and even a life is not enough.

The world is right before our eyes; we just need to introspect.
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good post bro...

[amayakudu]

who are  NRI's?

Indian brains(best) working for American development...

specially Indian best IITians... no moral values...
only filling bank accounts in America...
what a great repay to their mother country...
hats off...

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[quote author=Nellore Pedda reddy link=topic=82487.msg871192#msg871192 date=1279477564]
Baa....I agree with u that life in US is better

But [b]I can't live in India ani mathram anaku[/b]....endukante manam ikkada putti peragaledu....Akkada nunchi valasa vacham

[b]Nuvvu enni cheppina adi MANA DESAM[/b]
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chddam ba India lo undalenu antunnaru gaa... America nunchi vella dengite ekkadiki poyi batukutaru

[Nellore Pedda reddy]

[quote author=BulletBabu link=topic=82487.msg871308#msg871308 date=1279479494]
chddam ba India lo undalenu antunnaru gaa... America nunchi vella dengite ekkadiki poyi batukutaru
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Correct ga seppav baa  @gr33d @gr33d

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[quote author=BulletBabu link=topic=82487.msg871308#msg871308 date=1279479494]
chddam ba India lo undalenu antunnaru gaa... America nunchi vella dengite ekkadiki poyi batukutaru
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