Desi kids may be forced to leave US soon

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13 minutes ago, tennisluvr said:

You are right. However the same can be said about DACAs, now there's a proposal in Congress to legalize their status. Why do you think would they do that? That's because DACAs have had a representation and are able to atleast address their grievances to the highest office. 

These kids who have lived their entire lives here are trying to find a platform to address their grievances to as well. I think that's far more practical and feasible from their perspective rather than them going back to India and starting a new life all over again, a land and culture that's mostly alien to them. 

Atleast when you get your citizenship, and after your military service is up, run for office and be the voice for Indians man.

Don't be like QuickGun fellow, who drums up US greatness like he really believes it. 

Its better to fight for our people than singing pointless paens to a country. But first we must understand if our people actually suffer in the US, and if there is a political solution to it.

[tennisluvr]

2 minutes ago, uttermost said:

majority of these kids will end up dubai, or sydney or Toronto, or take up H1 visas. 

its a mild irritant, thats all.

As far as the 'greatest country in the world'.. lol. US should stop claiming that by now, now that they have a clown at the highest office who's trolling media more than he does any work.

 

If the new merit based system gets implemented on the lines of Canada or Australia I think a significant amount of these kids might be benefited.

However it's unlikely that such a proposal gets the nod at least in the current situation with DACA itself being such a hot button issue, so eventually they might have to settle for the H1B visas or perhaps go to Canada. 

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Just now, uttermost said:

Atleast when you get your citizenship, and after your military service is up, run for office and be the voice for Indians man.

Don't be like QuickGun fellow, who drums up US greatness like he really believes it. 

Its better to fight for our people than singing pointless paens to a country. But first we must understand if our people actually suffer in the US, and if there is a political solution to it.

Haha I will definitely try to do that if things work out the way you described them. Whether that will happen I'm unable to answer in the affirmative now. 

As for Quickgun_murugan uncle, he is a good guy but not politically inclined I believe. 

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11 minutes ago, tennisluvr said:

In some cases yes, but they aren't the majority of what constitutes DACA. As for the politics around this issue, since this policy was brought forth by the previous administration, the current administration wants to take the credit for any "fix" they put in to resolve the issue. At least that's what it seems to be, it might get noisier before a resolution gets passed in the coming months. 

Too many people wanting to get into and stay in the US at any cost. Its going to get worse in the future.

Its interesting times though. On the one hand, immigrants fighting to stay, and the white natives fighting to drive them out (through their nazi pr0xy Trump). Who'll win?

Its easy to predict short term winners. Because Trump is a pretend Nazi, cozily settled in corporate pockets. So first round to the immigrants. But I predict a backlash.

A much more cunning, and competent Nazi to rise from the ashes of Trump and the republican/democrat party in the next decade.

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Media is also taking Trump's bait and attacking him mindlessly for everything. It won't be long before the number of people who believe in the media will hit rock bottom, like it did in India.

Then a Modi clone will rise in the US.

God save the immigrants who are fighting now to stay back in the US  

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4 minutes ago, uttermost said:

Too many people wanting to get into and stay in the US at any cost. Its going to get worse in the future.

Its interesting times though. On the one hand, immigrants fighting to stay, and the white natives fighting to drive them out (through their nazi pr0xy Trump). Who'll win?

Its easy to predict short term winners. Because Trump is a pretend Nazi, cozily settled in corporate pockets. So first round to the immigrants. But I predict a backlash.

A much more cunning, and competent Nazi to rise from the ashes of Trump and the republican/democrat party in the next decade.

I believe this is going to happen as well. Trump is reactionary for the most part, but the coming one won't be. 

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1 minute ago, tennisluvr said:

I believe this is going to happen as well. Trump is reactionary for the most part, but the coming one won't be. 

Trump is just a moron. The entire white nationalist movement (If you dislike the term Nazi) is reactionary.

There are several movements with racist ideologies (or ones that don't condemn racism as much as capitalism) that are not reactionary, and are wide spread in the US. But they'll never come close to power like white nationalism can.

In fact, many of those groups have coalesced into white nationalists, with the single minded agenda to establish a white majority state.

They have a better chance at success than some of these dreamy anarchist capitalists, who are not reactionary, and have a solid overarching political economic and social plan, unlike white nationalists who just want to get their way, in anyway possible.

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6 minutes ago, tennisluvr said:

I believe this is going to happen as well. Trump is reactionary for the most part, but the coming one won't be. 

In other words, white nationalists want to tear down the system, and don't have anything new to replace it with. That makes them reactionaries.

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29 minutes ago, tennisluvr said:

I believe this is going to happen as well. Trump is reactionary for the most part, but the coming one won't be. 

Okay. I get it. White nationalists do have an agenda. Its is socialism + white nationalism.

I think it pretty much covers all aspects of political life. So they are probably not reactionaries. you're right.

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But are all white nationalists socialists, or agree with aspects of socialism? I doubt it.

It'll be interesting to see how this movement grows in the US.

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India ki povadam papam annattu matladathadu endi.....

Compare with where they started.... This kid came to USA before schooling... Which means he got world class education for free for his entire life ... And also got a chance to see beautiful world .... This is far better than 99.9% kids in India. 

They should understand the reality that... One day they need to go back.

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12 minutes ago, rrc_2015 said:

India ki povadam papam annattu matladathadu endi.....

Compare with where they started.... This kid came to USA before schooling... Which means he got world class education for free for his entire life ... And also got a chance to see beautiful world .... This is far better than 99.9% kids in India. 

They should understand the reality that... One day they need to go back.

They don't have to go back anyday if they don't want to.

The concept of countries belonging to specific ethinicities is a 19th century idea. These days you can settle down anywhere you want to.

[speedracer]

Mostly these are witch company based

[Kontekurradu]

deni mummy, prathi dewsi gadi pillpodi traget , NASA lo work seyyatamena ?

[rrc_2015]

1 minute ago, uttermost said:

They don't have to go back anyday if they don't want to.

The concept of countries belonging to specific ethinicities is a 19th century idea. These days you can settle down anywhere you want to.

Visa rules oppukunte ... Undamanu.

But naa koduku kosam... Andariki gc icheyandii .... Ante ??