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uttermost Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 hmm.. I can't live there. I want to live in a lively society, not where people choose anarchism because they have no other way. because in those societies other sorts of inequality will exist. Like killing short people, oppressing women, etc. anyway, anarchism has a few principles (like abolishing hierarchy, syndicalization etc). They can be achieved in lower plains that we live in too. If not in the overall society, atleast within our network. Like, starting a non-profit, that is organized in the way Amnesty International is organized, providing technology to industrial cooperatives in exchange for stake in their profit. That is an excellent anarchist way to get around the global capital controls, while also not feeding the uppercaste too much undeserved wealth in India. Its a pain living in this horrible society for people like me, yes. But its still better than going off to live in plains without access to what modern society has to offer. Plus there are competing philosophies in the world (including Hindutva). I'm not prepared to brush off anything as untouchable, even though my comments here may seem like I will. Also, I'm a Transhumanist, first and foremost. I don't want to be stuck in hellholes with nothing to do other than predicting the next landslide with precision. I like to do that too, but want to be able to do other things too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttermost Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 If I was brave enough, I should have gone to Rojava in Syria. But there are constraints on me from taking that drastic step. may be after 5yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duryodana Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 8 hours ago, uttermost said: hmm.. I can't live there. I want to live in a lively society, not where people choose anarchism because they have no other way. because in those societies other sorts of inequality will exist. Like killing short people, oppressing women, etc. anyway, anarchism has a few principles (like abolishing hierarchy, syndicalization etc). They can be achieved in lower plains that we live in too. If not in the overall society, atleast within our network. Like, starting a non-profit, that is organized in the way Amnesty International is organized, providing technology to industrial cooperatives in exchange for stake in their profit. That is an excellent anarchist way to get around the global capital controls, while also not feeding the uppercaste too much undeserved wealth in India. Its a pain living in this horrible society for people like me, yes. But its still better than going off to live in plains without access to what modern society has to offer. Plus there are competing philosophies in the world (including Hindutva). I'm not prepared to brush off anything as untouchable, even though my comments here may seem like I will. Also, I'm a Transhumanist, first and foremost. I don't want to be stuck in hellholes with nothing to do other than predicting the next landslide with precision. I like to do that too, but want to be able to do other things too. ee sollu antha nuvve type sesava.. db lo okadante okadu kuda sadivundadu ee sollu ni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttermost Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 28 minutes ago, Duryodana said: ee sollu antha nuvve type sesava.. db lo okadante okadu kuda sadivundadu ee sollu ni evadu pattinchukokunda undaali aney kadha antha raasedhi. aina, sollu comment lu osthu ney unnai ga pattinchukokunda undaleka pothunnaru paapam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpachinao Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 8 hours ago, uttermost said: hmm.. I can't live there. I want to live in a lively society, not where people choose anarchism because they have no other way. because in those societies other sorts of inequality will exist. Like killing short people, oppressing women, etc. anyway, anarchism has a few principles (like abolishing hierarchy, syndicalization etc). They can be achieved in lower plains that we live in too. If not in the overall society, atleast within our network. Like, starting a non-profit, that is organized in the way Amnesty International is organized, providing technology to industrial cooperatives in exchange for stake in their profit. That is an excellent anarchist way to get around the global capital controls, while also not feeding the uppercaste too much undeserved wealth in India. Its a pain living in this horrible society for people like me, yes. But its still better than going off to live in plains without access to what modern society has to offer. Plus there are competing philosophies in the world (including Hindutva). I'm not prepared to brush off anything as untouchable, even though my comments here may seem like I will. Also, I'm a Transhumanist, first and foremost. I don't want to be stuck in hellholes with nothing to do other than predicting the next landslide with precision. I like to do that too, but want to be able to do other things too. Complicated bro avva kavali buvva kavali ante kastam Modern society kavali anarchist ga vundali ante ela cheppu E transhumanism endi kotha katha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpismahatma Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 9 hours ago, uttermost said: If I was brave enough, I should have gone to Rojava in Syria. But there are constraints on me from taking that drastic step. may be after 5yrs. Syria lo fight aaa ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duryodana Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 43 minutes ago, uttermost said: evadu pattinchukokunda undaali aney kadha antha raasedhi. aina, sollu comment lu osthu ney unnai ga pattinchukokunda undaleka pothunnaru paapam. intlo bugs tirugutunnai ani bug spray kodithe bug kuda tanani pattinchukuntunnadu sonenu chala important ani feel avutundha.. idi anthe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 9 hours ago, uttermost said: hmm.. I can't live there. I want to live in a lively society, not where people choose anarchism because they have no other way. because in those societies other sorts of inequality will exist. Like killing short people, oppressing women, etc. anyway, anarchism has a few principles (like abolishing hierarchy, syndicalization etc). They can be achieved in lower plains that we live in too. If not in the overall society, atleast within our network. Like, starting a non-profit, that is organized in the way Amnesty International is organized, providing technology to industrial cooperatives in exchange for stake in their profit. That is an excellent anarchist way to get around the global capital controls, while also not feeding the uppercaste too much undeserved wealth in India. Its a pain living in this horrible society for people like me, yes. But its still better than going off to live in plains without access to what modern society has to offer. Plus there are competing philosophies in the world (including Hindutva). I'm not prepared to brush off anything as untouchable, even though my comments here may seem like I will. Also, I'm a Transhumanist, first and foremost. I don't want to be stuck in hellholes with nothing to do other than predicting the next landslide with precision. I like to do that too, but want to be able to do other things too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Duryodana said: ee sollu antha nuvve type sesava.. db lo okadante okadu kuda sadivundadu ee sollu ni i read no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttermost Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, Duryodana said: intlo bugs tirugutunnai ani bug spray kodithe bug kuda tanani pattinchukuntunnadu sonenu chala important ani feel avutundha.. idi anthe naa sangathi pakkana pettu, nuvvu baaga feel avthunnav ga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duryodana Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, Pitta said: i read no 2 lines lo summary matter sollu suddam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttermost Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 47 minutes ago, alpachinao said: Complicated bro avva kavali buvva kavali ante kastam Modern society kavali anarchist ga vundali ante ela cheppu E transhumanism endi kotha katha andaru alaagey brathukuthunnaru bro. Ippudu andariki capitalism alavaatu ayyindi kabatti, they think there is no other way to organize trade. but even Indian society was anarchist (which is how these castes were formed), in the early days. They were trading and exchanging goods and services amongst themselves, long long before all these big kingdoms were formed to take control of that trade. To this day, humans think that countries are necessary for global trade to function, or that tax is an essential part of the system. Its not. anarchist thought provide the alternative. anarchists can force small, miniscule changes, and wait for the people to embrace it in larger numbers. anarchists had already forced 5day work week, 8hr shifts, long before 'New Deal liberals' took it up. don't ask if there were anarchists at that time. yes, they called themselves socialists. now socialism is very different and is not followed anywhere in the western world, but still some worker protections became possible because of that. so keep doing your work, and dont expect results. whenever you are frustrated, log in to dbs like this, and rant and irritate people who represent the people in real life that disagree with you. simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, Duryodana said: 2 lines lo summary matter sollu suddam Its a pain living in this horrible society for people like me. But its still better than going off to live in plains without access to what modern society has to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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