tennisluvr Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Lifted from Reddit: subreddit: ABCDesis As a Canadian who moved to the US because my husband's career stagnated due to an old white boys network mentality, I'd say Canada is not necessarily more progressive than the US. My husbands career has flourished here in the US. The US is a better place than Canada for highly skilled and ambitious individuals for a bunch of reasons. Canada is too closely tied to UK culture and that negatively colors their attitudes and views toward Indians. It's a colonial mentality. The Canadian immigration system is woefully out of step with the Canadian market place/economy. While potential immigrants are screened for education, professional skills and fluency in French or English, once they arrive and start looking for jobs, they are told they need Canadian experience. I think the US is a more merit based society. You are more likely to get hired on your skill set, not your nationality or skin color, at least for desis. I have experienced hardly any racism living in the US compared to Canada. Here is a simple example. Last year we went on holiday to Banf in Alberta. I came out of my hotel room and saw the maid and asked for extra towels. She asked me what room I was in, followed me to the room and had me open the door before handing me a fu%king towel. Yeah, thats right, I wander the halls of random hotels masquerading as a patron in order to steal towels! I have never had an experience like this in the US whereas, growing up in Canada, this kind of policing or indifference in the service sector is not uncommon. I know of more substantial income and livelihood examples of racism too. American South Asians don't get to be the highest income minorities unless there is an accepting climate that supports this. I think the US does a much better job of utilizing the skills of immigrants than Canada. Canada still has a ways to go to offer equal opportunities to second generation desis. My only caveat is that the private sector appears to have done a better job than the public sector but if you're using that metric, the US is the bigger economy with more jobs and opportunities. All this is great for driven, educated immigrants to the US, but if you have an kind of deficiencies, it's very much a sink or swim environment and I'd say Canada is better because of the social safety net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastercheif Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 paisal vasthey denikaina ready antunna NRIs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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princeofheaven Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 33 minutes ago, tennisluvr said: Lifted from Reddit: subreddit: ABCDesis As a Canadian who moved to the US because my husband's career stagnated due to an old white boys network mentality, I'd say Canada is not necessarily more progressive than the US. My husbands career has flourished here in the US. The US is a better place than Canada for highly skilled and ambitious individuals for a bunch of reasons. Canada is too closely tied to UK culture and that negatively colors their attitudes and views toward Indians. It's a colonial mentality. The Canadian immigration system is woefully out of step with the Canadian market place/economy. While potential immigrants are screened for education, professional skills and fluency in French or English, once they arrive and start looking for jobs, they are told they need Canadian experience. I think the US is a more merit based society. You are more likely to get hired on your skill set, not your nationality or skin color, at least for desis. I have experienced hardly any racism living in the US compared to Canada. Here is a simple example. Last year we went on holiday to Banf in Alberta. I came out of my hotel room and saw the maid and asked for extra towels. She asked me what room I was in, followed me to the room and had me open the door before handing me a fu%king towel. Yeah, thats right, I wander the halls of random hotels masquerading as a patron in order to steal towels! I have never had an experience like this in the US whereas, growing up in Canada, this kind of policing or indifference in the service sector is not uncommon. I know of more substantial income and livelihood examples of racism too. American South Asians don't get to be the highest income minorities unless there is an accepting climate that supports this. I think the US does a much better job of utilizing the skills of immigrants than Canada. Canada still has a ways to go to offer equal opportunities to second generation desis. My only caveat is that the private sector appears to have done a better job than the public sector but if you're using that metric, the US is the bigger economy with more jobs and opportunities. All this is great for driven, educated immigrants to the US, but if you have an kind of deficiencies, it's very much a sink or swim environment and I'd say Canada is better because of the social safety net. Canada/Aus lo racism no jobs UK lo brexit US lo tatha Inka mana telugu youth ni chinnababu ee kapadali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Draper Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 4 hours ago, tennisluvr said: Lifted from Reddit: subreddit: ABCDesis As a Canadian who moved to the US because my husband's career stagnated due to an old white boys network mentality, I'd say Canada is not necessarily more progressive than the US. My husbands career has flourished here in the US. The US is a better place than Canada for highly skilled and ambitious individuals for a bunch of reasons. Canada is too closely tied to UK culture and that negatively colors their attitudes and views toward Indians. It's a colonial mentality. The Canadian immigration system is woefully out of step with the Canadian market place/economy. While potential immigrants are screened for education, professional skills and fluency in French or English, once they arrive and start looking for jobs, they are told they need Canadian experience. I think the US is a more merit based society. You are more likely to get hired on your skill set, not your nationality or skin color, at least for desis. I have experienced hardly any racism living in the US compared to Canada. Here is a simple example. Last year we went on holiday to Banf in Alberta. I came out of my hotel room and saw the maid and asked for extra towels. She asked me what room I was in, followed me to the room and had me open the door before handing me a fu%king towel. Yeah, thats right, I wander the halls of random hotels masquerading as a patron in order to steal towels! I have never had an experience like this in the US whereas, growing up in Canada, this kind of policing or indifference in the service sector is not uncommon. I know of more substantial income and livelihood examples of racism too. American South Asians don't get to be the highest income minorities unless there is an accepting climate that supports this. I think the US does a much better job of utilizing the skills of immigrants than Canada. Canada still has a ways to go to offer equal opportunities to second generation desis. My only caveat is that the private sector appears to have done a better job than the public sector but if you're using that metric, the US is the bigger economy with more jobs and opportunities. All this is great for driven, educated immigrants to the US, but if you have an kind of deficiencies, it's very much a sink or swim environment and I'd say Canada is better because of the social safety net. This is so true, i work with a Canadian Lankan and he says US is far better, as they moved for more opportunities and better life for kids . At the same time, he is also of the opinion that Canada is still better than going back to south asian countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Draper Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 4 hours ago, princeofheaven said: Canada/Aus lo racism no jobs UK lo brexit US lo tatha Inka mana telugu youth ni chinnababu ee kapadali India lo modi ah.. anni manaku anukulanga untey punch undad ga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince_Fan Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 5 hours ago, jays02 said: Great useful info, appreciate that. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeofheaven Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Don_Draper said: This is so true, i work with a Canadian Lankan and he says US is far better, as they moved for more opportunities and better life for kids . At the same time, he is also of the opinion that Canada is still better than going back to south asian countries. Lanka/Pak etc lo IT or other decent jobs undavu India is not bad option. Aina Lanka ante epatiki GC ochesi untadi for them US is heaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeofheaven Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Don_Draper said: India lo modi ah.. anni manaku anukulanga untey punch undad ga no worries we have chinnababu ready with 3 lakh IT jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHAT Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 6 hours ago, tennisluvr said: Lifted from Reddit: subreddit: ABCDesis As a Canadian who moved to the US because my husband's career stagnated due to an old white boys network mentality, I'd say Canada is not necessarily more progressive than the US. My husbands career has flourished here in the US. The US is a better place than Canada for highly skilled and ambitious individuals for a bunch of reasons. Canada is too closely tied to UK culture and that negatively colors their attitudes and views toward Indians. It's a colonial mentality. The Canadian immigration system is woefully out of step with the Canadian market place/economy. While potential immigrants are screened for education, professional skills and fluency in French or English, once they arrive and start looking for jobs, they are told they need Canadian experience. I think the US is a more merit based society. You are more likely to get hired on your skill set, not your nationality or skin color, at least for desis. I have experienced hardly any racism living in the US compared to Canada. Here is a simple example. Last year we went on holiday to Banf in Alberta. I came out of my hotel room and saw the maid and asked for extra towels. She asked me what room I was in, followed me to the room and had me open the door before handing me a fu%king towel. Yeah, thats right, I wander the halls of random hotels masquerading as a patron in order to steal towels! I have never had an experience like this in the US whereas, growing up in Canada, this kind of policing or indifference in the service sector is not uncommon. I know of more substantial income and livelihood examples of racism too. American South Asians don't get to be the highest income minorities unless there is an accepting climate that supports this. I think the US does a much better job of utilizing the skills of immigrants than Canada. Canada still has a ways to go to offer equal opportunities to second generation desis. My only caveat is that the private sector appears to have done a better job than the public sector but if you're using that metric, the US is the bigger economy with more jobs and opportunities. All this is great for driven, educated immigrants to the US, but if you have an kind of deficiencies, it's very much a sink or swim environment and I'd say Canada is better because of the social safety net. these kind of things happen everywhere.... US lo koncham takkuva .... but compared to Visa issues ivi anni lite anukunta... rather than waiting here for 70 years for unknown GC/citiz ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasara_bullodu Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 US knows the value of service .. don't know about canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahelwan Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 The only only only only thing I like about this place is the life has a value here. Here governments don’t wipe their hands just by giving exgratia. I love USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeofheaven Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 minute ago, pahelwan said: The only only only only thing I like about this place is the life has a value here. Here governments don’t wipe their hands just by giving exgratia. I love USA ikkada aithe aa ex gratia kuda undadu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter123 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 its her opinion,,she just cant generalize with her expereince,,,racism is there everywhere and it will be there forever...we just have to live with it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbourne Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Peter123 said: its her opinion,,she just cant generalize with her expereince,,,racism is there everywhere and it will be there forever...we just have to live with it.. Osmania engineering college lo Nigerians Kenyans ochchetollu they transferred from Delhi university, the reason for their transfer is they couldn't tackle racism they faced in the capital, and yet we complain others being racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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