uttermost Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, chittimallu2 said: and your point, related to my post is? the obvious one. that reading Indian literature may have been novel during the time of Schrodinger, because it helped him formulate his ideas, when it was not possible with just maths. but not now. new age spiritual gurus have appropriated that mindspace. its no longer Quantum Mechanics. just oriental mysticism. Quote
uttermost Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, NinduChandurudu said: Philosophy is nothing but the science that you don't understand. yes. until the maths for that particular science is formalized. then philosophy becomes irrelevant. Quote
NinduChandurudu Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, uttermost said: yes. until the maths for that particular science is formalized. then philosophy becomes irrelevant. No. Until your mind becomes mature and more open you wont realize that hinduism is a way of living but not a religion like islam and Christianity. Quote
uttermost Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, NinduChandurudu said: No. Until your mind becomes mature and more open you wont realize that hinduism is a way of living but not a religion like islam and Christianity. Quote
NinduChandurudu Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, uttermost said: Quote
karthikn Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, NinduChandurudu said: No. Until your mind becomes mature and more open you wont realize that hinduism is a way of living but not a religion like islam and Christianity. 👌👌 Quote
uttermost Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 Yes, Indian researchers contribution to science is huge, but it was 1000yrs ago. do you really want students to read an alternative way of calculating the third side of the right angled triangle? already, we are not learning the original pythagoreas theorem for that. everything is sanitized and simplified, and dumbed down. sure, if students want to learn alternative proofs, they should be available for them to read in private, but when you teach to a class, you won't pick the most elaborate way to come to a point, which is what all these 1000yr old proofs are (atleast in maths). they are utterly unreadable now. Quote
chittimallu2 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, uttermost said: yes. until the maths for that particular science is formalized. then philosophy becomes irrelevant. No, its more like a stepping stone... swing it however you want 3 minutes ago, uttermost said: the obvious one. that reading Indian literature may have been novel during the time of Schrodinger, because it helped him formulate his ideas, when it was not possible with just maths. but not now. new age spiritual gurus have appropriated that mindspace. its no longer Quantum Mechanics. just oriental mysticism. how does that make it any less? One more quote... World (Universe) is nothing but frequencies, energies and vibrations. "Om" has all three, which was way before Nikola Tesla even said that. Deep inside there is a connection to science/scientists and vedic knowledge. Just because easier methods came, you cant say these are irrelevant. Irrelevant will be only when they are not accurate or doesnt make sense, and its neither. Quote
uttermost Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, karthikn said: @Bhai secularism is always in danger when you have people like you pointing and provoking a person in a group, to remind the group that the person is different from others in the group. the group bears collective (read collective) responsibility for everything that happens within it. when you understand this, you won't cry on what Bhai posts. Quote
chittimallu2 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, uttermost said: Yes, Indian researchers contribution to science is huge, but it was 1000yrs ago. do you really want students to read an alternative way of calculating the third side of the right angled triangle? already, we are not learning the original pythagoreas theorem for that. everything is sanitized and simplified, and dumbed down. sure, if students want to learn alternative proofs, they should be available for them to read in private, but when you teach to a class, you won't pick the most elaborate way to come to a point, which is what all these 1000yr old proofs are (atleast in maths). they are utterly unreadable now. Look, like I said you can swing it however you want. You can call it "outdated" or "basic" and it depends on what side you want to pick. Our previous generations added and subtracted using their fingers, we used calculatiors, our kids are using phones for that and the next generation will use something else, but its in the end its the same 2+3 = 5. Now, just because your kids are using a smart phone to add those numbers doesnt make your dad's result of 2+3 = 5 using his fingers any irrelevant, which is what you are saying. Quote
uttermost Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, chittimallu2 said: No, its more like a stepping stone... swing it however you want how does that make it any less? One more quote... World (Universe) is nothing but frequencies, energies and vibrations. "Om" has all three, which was way before Nikola Tesla even said that. Deep inside there is a connection to science/scientists and vedic knowledge. Just because easier methods came, you cant say these are irrelevant. Irrelevant will be only when they are not accurate or doesnt make sense, and its neither. I meant to say that it is not scientifically very useful now. yes, the philosophy is interesting, and has been used to explain quantum effects by the physicists you mention. but later physicists (feynman, wheeler etc) have enriched the field without having to rely on just philosophy to explain the quirks of quantum world. Feynman in particular was explicit in his dislike for philosophy to explain these effects, and not doing the ground work to improve the maths. Quote
uttermost Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, chittimallu2 said: Look, like I said you can swing it however you want. You can call it "outdated" or "basic" and it depends on what side you want to pick. Our previous generations added and subtracted using their fingers, we used calculatiors, our kids are using phones for that and the next generation will use something else, but its in the end its the same 2+3 = 5. Now, just because your kids are using a smart phone to add those numbers doesnt make your dad's result of 2+3 = 5 using his fingers any irrelevant, which is what you are saying. okay. I somewhat agree with you. Trying alternative methods is not bad per se. as long as students are not forced to learn it. Quote
NinduChandurudu Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 29 minutes ago, uttermost said: okay. I somewhat agree with you. Trying alternative methods is not bad per se. as long as students are not forced to learn it. good...it can be made optional if ppl from other religions dont like it Quote
MRI Posted January 25, 2018 Report Posted January 25, 2018 good move. preserving our own heritage. Quote
Bhai Posted January 25, 2018 Author Report Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, karthikn said: @Bhai Nuvvu miss ayyavo leka filter pettukunnavo. btw idhi post chesi 10 days ayyindi nenu akkadito aapesa kani rape lu matram aagatle. next Time ninnu tag chesta marchipokunda. Quote
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