calling princeofheaven

[uttermost]

I just saw that Silicon Valley TV show, which I normally avoid because it gives me anxiety issues. but the last two seasons that I caught up with, were a breeze, and full comedy. Not stressful.

they are talking about mesh based (server free) 'new internet' as the killer app for the compression thingy the main guy built in the 1st season.

I'm a little disappointed they didn't namedrop freenet, which is in existence for more than 20yrs now.

remember we talked about something similar to it. you said its impossible. its not. 

the show is based on an imaginary lossess compression algo, but it is possible even without that algo (that algo definitely will boost this network usage). and it will be slow and requires some technical competence to keep yourself secure in that network. 

I don't really know if I'm tagging the right person @princeofheaven, because unless you abused me, its extremely rare  that I remember ids in this db.

[Suhaas]

Jian Yaaaaanggg.

[alooparata]

1 hour ago, Suhaas said:

Jian Yaaaaanggg.

do you mean jing bang 

[princeofheaven]

On 2/21/2018 at 11:34 PM, uttermost said:

I just saw that Silicon Valley TV show, which I normally avoid because it gives me anxiety issues. but the last two seasons that I caught up with, were a breeze, and full comedy. Not stressful.

they are talking about mesh based (server free) 'new internet' as the killer app for the compression thingy the main guy built in the 1st season.

I'm a little disappointed they didn't namedrop freenet, which is in existence for more than 20yrs now.

remember we talked about something similar to it. you said its impossible. its not. 

the show is based on an imaginary lossess compression algo, but it is possible even without that algo (that algo definitely will boost this network usage). and it will be slow and requires some technical competence to keep yourself secure in that network. 

I don't really know if I'm tagging the right person @princeofheaven, because unless you abused me, its extremely rare  that I remember ids in this db.

@uttermost 

you remember the right id , a good analysis is there on WIRED

https://www.wired.com/2017/06/pied-pipers-new-internet-isnt-just-possible-almost/

some new concept like blockchain must come, there is still the risk of a lot of nodes going offline to disrupt the network.Qos will be a problem

[Idassamed]

On 2/22/2018 at 12:34 AM, Suhaas said:

Jian Yaaaaanggg.

[uttermost]

2 hours ago, princeofheaven said:

@uttermost 

you remember the right id , a good analysis is there on WIRED

https://www.wired.com/2017/06/pied-pipers-new-internet-isnt-just-possible-almost/

some new concept like blockchain must come, there is still the risk of a lot of nodes going offline to disrupt the network.Qos will be a problem

The internet itself will be very different, in that case. With current technologies it's impossible to provide even basic security for such a peer-peer network.

freenet itself works on the highest abstract layer with jre, and the network is completely out of reach for any app/script written for freenet.

If you've used freenet, you would know, it feels like you are using 90s internet. even though there are a bunch of interesting stuff, and plenty of pirated books and movies in the network you can download for free, but @ around 20kbps speed. lol.

[uttermost]

the point is such an internet is possible, but probably will never be allowed to come.

because there's no money to be made by the current leaders of the industry. It'll be basically the death of all internet companies.

[uttermost]

its a bit absurd that someone considers this 'pied piper' new internet thing as a good business idea.

may be they meant to make money off the underlying transport layer through better compression algos. but that's even sillier or scarier.

 

 

[uttermost]

If such a compression algo is in the market, you cannot control its proliferation, even with a water tight patent.

It will be available everywhere, there'll be a million 'new internets' before anyone notices. most of them run by anarchists.

the world will be fcuked. and it'll be glorious to watch tech CEOs declare bankruptcies one after the other.