Finally a sensible news anchor !

[uttermost]

1 minute ago, kingcasanova said:

reproduction ki baagaa use avuthaam kada uttermost baa 

kukkala tharuvaatha maname gaaa 

vaatiki kooda cloning procedures ochesthayi ba. reproduction is a waste of energy and time when done by humans.

[tom bhayya]

Government primary responsibility to its citizens is spend the money on education, health, infrastructure (roads, public transport) drinking and irrigation water, law and order, human rights ilaantivi provide chesaaka budget lo inka money untey spend on welfare programs. But India lo most budget spent on welfare schemes 

[kingcasanova]

Just now, tom bhayya said:

Government primary responsibility to its citizens is spend the money on education, health, infrastructure (roads, public transport) drinking and irrigation water, law and order, human rights ilaantivi provide chesaaka budget lo inka money untey spend on welfare programs. But India lo most budget spent on welfare schemes 

evari welfare annadi important 

[uttermost]

6 minutes ago, alooparata said:

ila anni automate chesthoo pothe humans enduku undi 

undi, they probably should aim for higher things. or perish. 

 

[alooparata]

5 minutes ago, uttermost said:

undi, they probably should aim for higher things. or perish. 

 

things like how to become immortals, chasing extra terrestrial life??

[uttermost]

4 minutes ago, alooparata said:

things like how to become immortals, chasing extra terrestrial life??

may be. but I was talking about simple things like how to work as a community, without shouting each other down or killing each other.

Which will become an important talent to have, once everything is automated, and no one controls the production. If they can't do that, they will kill each other. Robots don't have to do it.

[uttermost]

14 minutes ago, tom bhayya said:

Government primary responsibility to its citizens is spend the money on education, health, infrastructure (roads, public transport) drinking and irrigation water, law and order, human rights ilaantivi provide chesaaka budget lo inka money untey spend on welfare programs. But India lo most budget spent on welfare schemes 

Govt's job is to maintain some sort of equity in the society they govern. both financial, and social. wealth transfer is an important part of maintaining that equity, in an age where winners win really really big, and make a lot of money, while many people languish on the sidelines. If govt doesn't provide a cover for the 'winners' by distributing some money to the losers, you can have blood on the streets, or a dictatorial police state that represses its poor people.

welfare is a component in education, health, and infra to an extent). you can't really separate them, unless you are not happy about certain sections (like sc/miniority) getting targeted programs. We can't help it, they need the most help, so they get it.

anyway most countries don't spend on infra etc now from public bourses. They do it with PPP, giving private contracts free money (welfare to the rich). this is because welfare expenses outstrip the revenue for all countries, and the only way they can do infra is by printing new money and giving it to their private cronies. capitalism has fcuked governace, by creating more welfare recipients. Govt can't kill them, and get away with the problem.

[TamrajKilvish]

Sensible debates and knowledgeable news anchors ni chudalante RajyaSabha TV, LokSabha TV, DD News chudandi

[tom bhayya]

8 minutes ago, uttermost said:

Govt's job is to maintain some sort of equity in the society they govern. both financial, and social. wealth transfer is an important part of maintaining that equity, in an age where winners win really really big, and make a lot of money, while many people languish on the sidelines. If govt doesn't provide a cover for the 'winners' by distributing some money to the losers, you can have blood on the streets, or a dictatorial police state that represses its poor people.

welfare is a component in education, health, and infra to an extent). you can't really separate them, unless you are not happy about certain sections (like sc/miniority) getting targeted programs. We can't help it, they need the most help, so they get it.

anyway most countries don't spend on infra etc now from public bourses. They do it with PPP, giving private contracts free money (welfare to the rich). this is because welfare expenses outstrip the revenue for all countries, and the only way they can do infra is by printing new money and giving it to their private cronies. capitalism has fcuked governace, by creating more welfare recipients. Govt can't kill them, and get away with the problem.

nenu bolded dhaani meedhaney comment chestha PPP is ok as long as we are talking about airports high speed rail laanti projects lo but national highways and metro lo seriously? US or any developed country lo no one will charge you toll travelling on road where there is no public transportation. yes populated cities have toll gates and they do that to discourage from using own transportation when they have public transport available. india lo national higway meedha velthunnavaadu why should he pay toll every few kilometers, outer ring road govt chesindhi y should he pay toll? andulo pedhavaadu untaadu or sc stminority untaadu road use chesinandhuku kuda toll kadathaara 

[uttermost]

Lol @ the anchor.

she's worried about even the 'richest' Indian not having clean air. I'm pretty sure Ambani has a 1000s of air filters all over his ugly house  

this looks like the same sort of fake middle class outrage against corruption that made Modi the king in 2014. ofcourse the anchor is not middle class, but like most connected 'upper middle' class in India, likes to call themselves 'middle', just to sound genuinne.

The problems with her statement.

1. religion is an issue in India. specifically upper caste Hindu minority's insistence that they have to decide the India narrative, through violent methods too. To equate that with the noise minority and some 'liberals' make, is to excuse the horror of Hindutva actions. They are not equal at all.

Hindu majoritarian mindset is a clear danger to democracy in India. To ask not to talk about it, is bullshit. Everybody should talk about it. especially the people at the receiving end, and the people who are from the Hindu uppercaste should learn to have the humility to accept their assholery, in the political sense.

2. Most indians are poor, by design. i.e., they are poor for the same reason that you are rich. How much of your salary are you willing to forego for them to achieve some basic level of sustenance?

People think politicians should ideally invest in this and this, and magically things will improve. No, it won't. The more investment into those 'welfare' schemes the less on your fancy infra, and free ad money for the crap TV you put out everyday.

Again, how much of the malinvestment that goes on in India (IPL, movies,mass media, telecomm, real estate) are people willing to forego, so their fellow citizens live a dignified life? pretty much, nothing. which is evident how middle class in India considers itself as above reproach - the ones that don't ask much from govt, and give a lot (lol people, really).

3. Caste. yes It is one biggest social issue that holds the country back. People should talk about it. No point saying 'caste doesnt exist anymore'.  

4. India is incredibly hard to govern. Its not politicians fault, but it is ungovernable. So lets split into Europe style countries, and have a union, but without a single currency.

[Android_Halwa]

3 minutes ago, tom bhayya said:

nenu bolded dhaani meedhaney comment chestha PPP is ok as long as we are talking about airports high speed rail laanti projects lo but national highways and metro lo seriously? US or any developed country lo no one will charge you toll travelling on road where there is no public transportation. yes populated cities have toll gates and they do that to discourage from using own transportation when they have public transport available. india lo national higway meedha velthunnavaadu why should he pay toll every few kilometers, outer ring road govt chesindhi y should he pay toll? andulo pedhavaadu untaadu or sc stminority untaadu road use chesinandhuku kuda toll kadathaara 

Interesting...but why do intelligent brains make the fundamental mistake ? 

You compare USA or developed world with a developing country such as India ? 

India lo national highway meeda vellevadu toll enduku kattalante, adi oka service...and they have to pay. However, they have another option of using interior service roads which they can use free of cost. 

pedavadu ledu, sc st minority ledu...ila vunna paisal anni public infra kosam spend chesthe inkemi migulutadi chippa thappa ? and in countries like India where administration and governance is so robust, it cannot built and maintain roads...it should be privatised..and thats what happening. 

come on guys, you are comparing developed western world with developing country such as India where the population is 1.3 billion sqeezed in a relatively smaller area and still has 300 million poor people...also one needs to remember, almost 400 million people have moved up the poverty levels in the last 20 years...and it still takes another 15-20 years to eradicate poverty to 90% levels...then suggessions by inteeligent brains like tolls etc will be seriously considered but untill then, get ready to pay for more and more services or settle with inferior service for free.

[Myth1]

 

[tom bhayya]

1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said:

Interesting...but why do intelligent brains make the fundamental mistake ? 

You compare USA or developed world with a developing country such as India ? 

India lo national highway meeda vellevadu toll enduku kattalante, adi oka service...and they have to pay. However, they have another option of using interior service roads which they can use free of cost. 

pedavadu ledu, sc st minority ledu...ila vunna paisal anni public infra kosam spend chesthe inkemi migulutadi chippa thappa ? and in countries like India where administration and governance is so robust, it cannot built and maintain roads...it should be privatised..and thats what happening. 

come on guys, you are comparing developed western world with developing country such as India where the population is 1.3 billion sqeezed in a relatively smaller area and still has 300 million poor people...also one needs to remember, almost 400 million people have moved up the poverty levels in the last 20 years...and it still takes another 15-20 years to eradicate poverty to 90% levels...then suggessions by inteeligent brains like tolls etc will be seriously considered but untill then, get ready to pay for more and more services or settle with inferior service for free.

lol nuvvu cheppedhi ela undhi antey people have to suffer and its a norm and people dont deserve it because they are from india and not from a developed country

[uttermost]

9 minutes ago, tom bhayya said:

nenu bolded dhaani meedhaney comment chestha PPP is ok as long as we are talking about airports high speed rail laanti projects lo but national highways and metro lo seriously? US or any developed country lo no one will charge you toll travelling on road where there is no public transportation. yes populated cities have toll gates and they do that to discourage from using own transportation when they have public transport available. india lo national higway meedha velthunnavaadu why should he pay toll every few kilometers, outer ring road govt chesindhi y should he pay toll? andulo pedhavaadu untaadu or sc stminority untaadu road use chesinandhuku kuda toll kadathaara 

The past decade, most Toronto GTA expressways were PPP. No, its not to discourage using own transportation, but because all governing bodies are running deficits because of increase in welfare recipients. Its the same story all over the world. 

Infra spending comes from govt backed loans. That's the economic model of the 21st century. Ika nundi US lo kooda new highways antha same PPP follow avthaaru choosko. Already Mr. (small govt) Trump has talked about it.

 

[Android_Halwa]

2 minutes ago, uttermost said:

Lol @ the anchor.

she's worried about even the 'richest' Indian not having clean air. I'm pretty sure Ambani has a 1000s of air filters all over his ugly house  

this looks like the same sort of fake middle class outrage against corruption that made Modi the king in 2014. ofcourse the anchor is not middle class, but like most connected 'upper middle' class in India, likes to call themselves 'middle', just to sound genuinne.

The problems with her statement.

1. religion is an issue in India. specifically upper caste Hindu minority's insistence that they have to decide the India narrative, through violent methods too. To equate that with the noise minority and some 'liberals' make, is to excuse the horror of Hindutva actions. They are not equal at all.

Hindu majoritarian mindset is a clear danger to democracy in India. To ask not to talk about it, is bullshit. Everybody should talk about it. especially the people at the receiving end, and the people who are from the Hindu uppercaste should learn to have the humility to accept their assholery, in the political sense.

2. Most indians are poor, by design. i.e., they are poor for the same reason that you are rich. How much of your salary are you willing to forego for them to achieve some basic level of sustenance?

People think politicians should ideally invest in this and this, and magically things will improve. No, it won't. The more investment into those 'welfare' schemes the less on your fancy infra, and free ad money for the crap TV you put out everyday.

Again, how much of the malinvestment that goes on in India (IPL, movies,mass media, telecomm, real estate) are people willing to forego, so their fellow citizens live a dignified life? pretty much, nothing. which is evident how middle class in India considers itself as above reproach - the ones that don't ask much from govt, and give a lot (lol people, really).

3. Caste. yes It is one biggest social issue that holds the country back. People should talk about it. No point saying 'caste doesnt exist anymore'.  

4. India is incredibly hard to govern. Its not politicians fault, but it is ungovernable. So lets split into Europe style countries, and have a union, but without a single currency.

This is the single biggest problem in my opinion. Motham centralise chesi dobbinaru, hell with soviet era and colonial era style of administration man ...India is very tough to govern. Its huge and robust at the same time lazy and unaccountable. Its definetely not politicians fault but the way we adopted the Westminster style of governance itself where things went wrong...and now, its beyond amending the situation and politicians are well versed and adopted to this system and will oppose any changes.

Things needs to get decentralized first, Central government should have no control over the states and states should have no say in federal issues. let each state have its own freedom to rule and have their own constitution and flag and adhere to the union of India...but instead of decentralizing, the nation is getting more and more centralizing..

Delhi should cut down on its importance at state level and state should cut down its involvement at district level. only then we can see improvement in governance and administration. A nation like India cannot have same code across the country. Imagine a state like Tamil Nadu and Arunachal Pradesh having same laws. Hell man, both are different and instead, they should not be even having the same time zone. People are different and have variety of lifestyle as well social characteristics. Let Tamil Nadu has its own civilian code and Arunachal have its own civilian code..