Towards a History of the TG movement

[futureofandhra]

2 minutes ago, SonaParv_522 said:

again it will lead to political discussion. 

Ok bro cool 

[Android_Halwa]

11 minutes ago, futureofandhra said:

What about kakatiyas they are one major kingdom right

I'm talking about History circa 1800 AD....ante samvatsaram 1800 tarvata jarigina parinamalu...kakateeyulu chala mundu palinchinaru...

ante, 1800 tarvata history la ekada kuda elaborate ge chesi chepaledu

[Android_Halwa]

1 hour ago, SonaParv_522 said:

ade naaku doubt ochindi. may be major TG part deeni kindaki vastundemo. migilina states complete ga deeni kindaki raavu.

deccani land...which  itself is a kingdom would have been a large country...

but, deccan plateau lo kuda, the land between godavari and krishna from from the foot steps of western ghats and eastern ghats is known as trilinga desha which eventually became Telangana...means land between the borders the three rivers godavari,krishna and thungabadhra....

erstwhile Telangana lo raichur,gulbarga,nagpur,aurangabad kuda vunde....

 

[Android_Halwa]

1 hour ago, pahelwan said:

With Telangana jails full, detainees were sent to Rajahmundry and Vizag jails. White no Andhra was touched in Telangana two Telangana citizens were burnt alive in the Andhra area.

donga lamdikelu

Daridram brotheru...daridram..ae jamna la chesukunna papam oh manam...

iyala..aaj ki tariq la kuda telangana la vunna andhrollu manchigunnaru, sampaichukntunaru, tintunnaru....kani izzat matram iyaru...10gi tini devuda ane rakalu vellu...

[Android_Halwa]

1 hour ago, pahelwan said:

Gunka Puvu antaru vay

gunka pulu...tangeda pulu..vayyaribhama pulu....

[SonaParv_522]

5 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

deccani land...which  itself is a kingdom would have been a large country...

but, deccan plateau lo kuda, the land between godavari and krishna from from the foot steps of western ghats and eastern ghats is known as trilinga desha which eventually became Telangana...means land between the borders the three rivers godavari,krishna and thungabadhra....

erstwhile Telangana lo raichur,gulbarga,nagpur,aurangabad kuda vunde....

 

good info....indaaka vere athanu, ind hyd and pak hyd confuse avutharani deccani ani pettukunnaru annadu. logical gane unna after country division, inka confuse enduku ayitharu anipinchindi, since no one care about pak hyd.

 

[caesar]

Intha peekuntaaru, why did they agreed to join with Andhra??

From 1956 in simple lines why Telangana was not solved amicably...is it bcoz of Andhra leaders or central parties..

Why all T leaders of all parties never shown non violence or never rise their voice against state and Central parties..

Example : D Goud from TDP

                   Jana Reddy from Congress etc

Simple gaa andhrollu , adhi idhi anakundaa...clear info iyyandi..

I don't want to kill someone's regional feelings/sentiments like some  baassstaardds who often comment different region people and leaders..

[r2d2]

That was me and I stand by what I posted .. nobody calls it Hyderabad Deccan now .. but back then the differentiation was needed..

my post has nothing to do with Andhra /Telangana...

[sattipandu]

1 minute ago, caesar said:

Intha peekuntaaru, why did they agreed to join with Andhra??

From 1956 in simple lines why Telangana was not solved amicably...is it bcoz of Andhra leaders or central parties..

Why all T leaders of all parties never shown non violence or never rise their voice against state and Central parties..

Example : D Goud from TDP

                   Jana Reddy from Congress etc

Simple gaa andhrollu , adhi idhi anakundaa...clear info iyyandi..

I don't want to kill someone's regional feelings/sentiments like some  baassstaardds who often comment different region people and leaders..

haha  join with andhra naa??? nee yevva comedy

neeku historical concepts meeda entha clarity undo deeni tho telispoyyindhi

thanks bedarrr

iyaltiki inka nenu jai balayya anukuntuu gadipesthaa

 

[caesar]

1956-2014 in independent India for formation of a state is a big shame ....i would like to know that shame is in people , telangana leaders or central party baastaars played with people???

[caesar]

3 minutes ago, sattipandu said:

haha  join with andhra naa??? nee yevva comedy

neeku historical concepts meeda entha clarity undo deeni tho telispoyyindhi

thanks bedarrr

iyaltiki inka nenu jai balayya anukuntuu gadipesthaa

 

Sarey Anna...naaku telidhu...Jai Andhra movement Ani okati undhi Ani maathram vinaanu...

Naa historical ignorance pakka pettu annaa... if possible just give some knowledge..

Language based states any concept ki agree kaaledhu antaavaa, my comment join mean that??

Thelavaka pothey cheppu simple terms lo....ippudu dheeniki kooda caste and balayya topic avasaramaa...

[sattipandu]

8 minutes ago, caesar said:

Sarey Anna...naaku telidhu...Jai Andhra movement Ani okati undhi Ani maathram vinaanu...

Naa historical ignorance pakka pettu antaa... if possible just give some knowledge..

Language based states any concept ki agree kaaledhu antaavaa, my comment join mean that??

Thelavaka pothey cheppu simple terms lo....ippudu dheeniki kooda caste and balayya topic avasaramaa...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_Reorganisation_Act,_1956 Read up

in simple terms about FAZAL ALI COMMISSION

Paragraph 382 of the SRC report dated 30 September 1955 said, "opinion in Andhra is overwhelmingly in favour of the larger unit, public opinion in Telangana has still to crystallize itself. Important leaders of public opinion in Andhra themselves seem to appreciate that the unification of Telangana with Andhra, though desirable, should be based on a voluntary and willing association of the people and that it is primarily for the people of Telangana to take a decision about their future".

While the Fazal Ali commission emphasises on the necessity and benefits Visalandhra^{[clarification needed]}, the report suggests that the process of merging may only be done after 5 years. In Paragraph 386, it states, "...for the present the Telangana area is to constitute into a separate State, which may be known as Hyderabad State with provision for its unification with Andhra after the general elections likely to be held in or about 1961, if by two thirds majority the legislature of the residency Hyderabad State expresses itself in favor of the such unification.”

Paragraph 387 goes on to say that the advantage of this arrangement will be that while the objective of the unification of the Andhras will neither be blurred nor impeded during a period of five or six years, the two governments may have stabilised their administrative machinery and, if possible, also reviewed their land revenue systems etc., the object in view being the attainment of uniformity. The intervening period may incidentally provide an opportunity for allaying apprehensions and achieving the consensus of opinion necessary for a real union between the two States.^[8]

From the content of Paragraph 387, the commission's main objective was to attain uniformity by achieving adequate administrative machinery and proper land review systems in the recently formed Andhra State and the new State of Hyderabad being formed and this duration could also be incidentally utilised for gaining consensus opinion for merger of the two states. In line with SRC opinion, the elected leaders of both states decided for immediate merger by achieving consensus by two thirds majority strength in both assemblies of these states.

The Hyderabad chief minister, in his letter to the INC president, said Communist parties supported the merger for their political calculations. The Hyderabad PCC chief said the overwhelming majority of INC party members opposed the merger, that Communists were elected in special circumstances in 1951, that Visalandhra was not a political issue in 1951, and that the Assembly does not reflect the people's view on the issue. He also said 80% of INC delegates who were elected in 1955 opposed the merger. The government had to provide additional security for Communist leaders who supported the Visalandhra.^[9]

In the Hyderabad Assembly, on 3 December 1955, 147 of 174 MLAs expressed their view. 103 (including Marathi and Kannada MLAs) supported the merger, 16 were neutral, and 29 opposed it.^{[citation needed]} Among Telangana MLAs, 59 supported the merger and 25 opposed it. Out of 94 Telangana MLAs in the assembly, 36 were Communists (PDF), 40 were INC, 11 were Socialist party (SP), and 9 were independents.^{[clarification needed]} Voting did not take place on the resolution because Telangana proponents insisted on including the phrase "As per the wishes of people" in the resolution.^[10][11]

To convince the leadership of Telangana to join the new state, an agreement was reached between the leaders of both sides. This came to be known as the Gentlemen's agreement. The agreement allowed the formation of the State of Andhra Pradesh in 1956, against the SRC's recommendations of waiting until 1961 to get the approval of 2/3 of Telangana State assembly after the 2 cycles of elections in Telangana State.

[Quickgun_murugan]

2 hours ago, TensionNahiLeneka said:

avasaram ayite nenu andhra pradesh ellipota..kaani mana TG gurunchi inta peddaga ayite sadava 

[Quickgun_murugan]

13 minutes ago, r2d2 said:

That was me and I stand by what I posted .. nobody calls it Hyderabad Deccan now .. but back then the differentiation was needed..

my post has nothing to do with Andhra /Telangana...

yup

[Quickgun_murugan]

4 minutes ago, sattipandu said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_Reorganisation_Act,_1956 Read up

in simple terms about FAZAL ALI COMMISSION

Paragraph 382 of the SRC report dated 30 September 1955 said, "opinion in Andhra is overwhelmingly in favour of the larger unit, public opinion in Telangana has still to crystallize itself. Important leaders of public opinion in Andhra themselves seem to appreciate that the unification of Telangana with Andhra, though desirable, should be based on a voluntary and willing association of the people and that it is primarily for the people of Telangana to take a decision about their future".

While the Fazal Ali commission emphasises on the necessity and benefits Visalandhra^{[clarification needed]}, the report suggests that the process of merging may only be done after 5 years. In Paragraph 386, it states, "...for the present the Telangana area is to constitute into a separate State, which may be known as Hyderabad State with provision for its unification with Andhra after the general elections likely to be held in or about 1961, if by two thirds majority the legislature of the residency Hyderabad State expresses itself in favor of the such unification.”

Paragraph 387 goes on to say that the advantage of this arrangement will be that while the objective of the unification of the Andhras will neither be blurred nor impeded during a period of five or six years, the two governments may have stabilised their administrative machinery and, if possible, also reviewed their land revenue systems etc., the object in view being the attainment of uniformity. The intervening period may incidentally provide an opportunity for allaying apprehensions and achieving the consensus of opinion necessary for a real union between the two States.^[8]

From the content of Paragraph 387, the commission's main objective was to attain uniformity by achieving adequate administrative machinery and proper land review systems in the recently formed Andhra State and the new State of Hyderabad being formed and this duration could also be incidentally utilised for gaining consensus opinion for merger of the two states. In line with SRC opinion, the elected leaders of both states decided for immediate merger by achieving consensus by two thirds majority strength in both assemblies of these states.

The Hyderabad chief minister, in his letter to the INC president, said Communist parties supported the merger for their political calculations. The Hyderabad PCC chief said the overwhelming majority of INC party members opposed the merger, that Communists were elected in special circumstances in 1951, that Visalandhra was not a political issue in 1951, and that the Assembly does not reflect the people's view on the issue. He also said 80% of INC delegates who were elected in 1955 opposed the merger. The government had to provide additional security for Communist leaders who supported the Visalandhra.^[9]

In the Hyderabad Assembly, on 3 December 1955, 147 of 174 MLAs expressed their view. 103 (including Marathi and Kannada MLAs) supported the merger, 16 were neutral, and 29 opposed it.^{[citation needed]} Among Telangana MLAs, 59 supported the merger and 25 opposed it. Out of 94 Telangana MLAs in the assembly, 36 were Communists (PDF), 40 were INC, 11 were Socialist party (SP), and 9 were independents.^{[clarification needed]} Voting did not take place on the resolution because Telangana proponents insisted on including the phrase "As per the wishes of people" in the resolution.^[10][11]

To convince the leadership of Telangana to join the new state, an agreement was reached between the leaders of both sides. This came to be known as the Gentlemen's agreement. The agreement allowed the formation of the State of Andhra Pradesh in 1956, against the SRC's recommendations of waiting until 1961 to get the approval of 2/3 of Telangana State assembly after the 2 cycles of elections in Telangana State.

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