Towards a History of the TG movement

[Quickgun_murugan]

13 minutes ago, caesar said:

1956-2014 in independent India for formation of a state is a big shame ....i would like to know that shame is in people , telangana leaders or central party baastaars played with people???

ofcourse... TG ppl are scapegoats... 

[SonaParv_522]

21 minutes ago, r2d2 said:

That was me and I stand by what I posted .. nobody calls it Hyderabad Deccan now .. but back then the differentiation was needed..

my post has nothing to do with Andhra /Telangana...

ok bro....before country division britishers petti undochu emo ee name.

[caesar]

16 minutes ago, sattipandu said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_Reorganisation_Act,_1956 Read up

in simple terms about FAZAL ALI COMMISSION

Paragraph 382 of the SRC report dated 30 September 1955 said, "opinion in Andhra is overwhelmingly in favour of the larger unit, public opinion in Telangana has still to crystallize itself. Important leaders of public opinion in Andhra themselves seem to appreciate that the unification of Telangana with Andhra, though desirable, should be based on a voluntary and willing association of the people and that it is primarily for the people of Telangana to take a decision about their future".

While the Fazal Ali commission emphasises on the necessity and benefits Visalandhra^{[clarification needed]}, the report suggests that the process of merging may only be done after 5 years. In Paragraph 386, it states, "...for the present the Telangana area is to constitute into a separate State, which may be known as Hyderabad State with provision for its unification with Andhra after the general elections likely to be held in or about 1961, if by two thirds majority the legislature of the residency Hyderabad State expresses itself in favor of the such unification.”

Paragraph 387 goes on to say that the advantage of this arrangement will be that while the objective of the unification of the Andhras will neither be blurred nor impeded during a period of five or six years, the two governments may have stabilised their administrative machinery and, if possible, also reviewed their land revenue systems etc., the object in view being the attainment of uniformity. The intervening period may incidentally provide an opportunity for allaying apprehensions and achieving the consensus of opinion necessary for a real union between the two States.^[8]

From the content of Paragraph 387, the commission's main objective was to attain uniformity by achieving adequate administrative machinery and proper land review systems in the recently formed Andhra State and the new State of Hyderabad being formed and this duration could also be incidentally utilised for gaining consensus opinion for merger of the two states. In line with SRC opinion, the elected leaders of both states decided for immediate merger by achieving consensus by two thirds majority strength in both assemblies of these states.

The Hyderabad chief minister, in his letter to the INC president, said Communist parties supported the merger for their political calculations. The Hyderabad PCC chief said the overwhelming majority of INC party members opposed the merger, that Communists were elected in special circumstances in 1951, that Visalandhra was not a political issue in 1951, and that the Assembly does not reflect the people's view on the issue. He also said 80% of INC delegates who were elected in 1955 opposed the merger. The government had to provide additional security for Communist leaders who supported the Visalandhra.^[9]

In the Hyderabad Assembly, on 3 December 1955, 147 of 174 MLAs expressed their view. 103 (including Marathi and Kannada MLAs) supported the merger, 16 were neutral, and 29 opposed it.^{[citation needed]} Among Telangana MLAs, 59 supported the merger and 25 opposed it. Out of 94 Telangana MLAs in the assembly, 36 were Communists (PDF), 40 were INC, 11 were Socialist party (SP), and 9 were independents.^{[clarification needed]} Voting did not take place on the resolution because Telangana proponents insisted on including the phrase "As per the wishes of people" in the resolution.^[10][11]

To convince the leadership of Telangana to join the new state, an agreement was reached between the leaders of both sides. This came to be known as the Gentlemen's agreement. The agreement allowed the formation of the State of Andhra Pradesh in 1956, against the SRC's recommendations of waiting until 1961 to get the approval of 2/3 of Telangana State assembly after the 2 cycles of elections in Telangana State.

Thanks for sharing ...crispy info and to some extent clear info..

As per the gentlemen agreement signed by both side leaders..

292 total seats -40 % (117) for T

                           -60% (175) for AP

CM from AP , Deputy CM from T

And two important things are educational facilities to T people and revenue sharing..

Of course there are sublte issues..

Again in simple terms...can you tell what  injustice done Andhra leaders or Andhra people to the T region??

117 leaders are always from T region only- why no one at any point of time objected to the injustice and educated people ..

What is the actual reason for congress to ignore telangana for so long time and since there are not in power they decided to give Telangana from 2004.

In 2004 manifesto they mentioned it, irony is Telangana and gentle agreement etc arbitrated by congress people only??? 

Valley kalipi valley valla swaardham kosam pulls pettaru to dethrone CBN

Let's take TDP rule ...what injustice TDP had doesn't with specific to T region and T people

  

[sattipandu]

6 minutes ago, caesar said:

Thanks for sharing ...crispy info and to some extent clear info..

As per the gentlemen agreement signed by both side leaders..

292 total seats -40 % (117) for T

                           -60% (175) for AP

CM from AP , Deputy CM from T

And two important things are educational facilities to T people and revenue sharing..

Of course there are sublte issues..

Again in simple terms...can you tell what  injustice done Andhra leaders or Andhra people to the T region??

117 leaders are always from T region only- why no one at any point of time objected to the injustice and educated people ..

What is the actual reason for congress to ignore telangana for so long time and since there are not in power they decided to give Telangana from 2004.

In 2004 manifesto they mentioned it, irony is Telangana and gentle agreement etc arbitrated by congress people only??? 

Valley kalipi valley valla swaardham kosam pulls pettaru to dethrone CBN

Let's take TDP rule ...what injustice TDP had doesn't with specific to T region and T people

  

in simple terms please read book by Mr Prakash  i think the title should be something like "Rashtra Avirbhavam" 

[Paidithalli]

There is no strong congress supporter in this dB to answer your questions? 

Tell me .. What tdp has done for TG in United AP?  They rules us for 15 years in last 30.. what they did ?  

[caesar]

2 minutes ago, sattipandu said:

in simple terms please read book by Mr Prakash  i think the title should be something like "Rashtra Avirbhavam" 

Over all i would like Andhra common people had has have done nothing to T people ....i will work congress govt rule and see what had happened as well with TDP rule and what had happened...

Political malign thappa em ledhu...just congress played with people , if YSR was alive event though they mentioned in 2004 manisfesto they definitely would have not given telngana...unfortunately atleast if i remember correctly 2004-2009 no much action from T people and T leaders (117, 40%) stuff..

This gives different impression on people , to say to this...and unfotuantely blaming Andhra people in this whole subject is one more blunder at least to me..

Thanks bro..

[caesar]

2 minutes ago, Paidithalli said:

There is no strong congress supporter in this dB to answer your questions? 

Tell me .. What tdp has done for TG in United AP?  They rules us for 15 years in last 30.. what they did ?  

At least Patel / patwari system

SC/ST attrocity act( all, but SC are more in T)

Women reservation...(applicable to all)

Pump sets to farmers

2rs rice for all

I have some data on irrigation stuff, give me sometime i will let u know..

Inka CBN case ki vasthey at least HiTech City and empowerment to both T and AP people for pursuing jobs...

Global Image to HYD..

Inka chinna chinna vaati gurunchi nenu maatladanu, ofcourse u can debate

 

 

[Android_Halwa]

49 minutes ago, caesar said:

Intha peekuntaaru, why did they agreed to join with Andhra??

From 1956 in simple lines why Telangana was not solved amicably...is it bcoz of Andhra leaders or central parties..

Why all T leaders of all parties never shown non violence or never rise their voice against state and Central parties..

Example : D Goud from TDP

                   Jana Reddy from Congress etc

Simple gaa andhrollu , adhi idhi anakundaa...clear info iyyandi..

I don't want to kill someone's regional feelings/sentiments like some  baassstaardds who often comment different region people and leaders..

Dude, don't you know why AP has to be joined with TG ? and remember, there was no agreement in the first place. Just a weird proposal and experiement and the result was disastrous for the next 50 years.

AP had no infrastructure to run the administration from Kurnool and had no option to get merged with Hyderabad to become Andhra Pradesh. 

Get your facts right first before your silly outburst and reference to Devenger Goud or Jana Reddy, who the hell are they and what do they had to do with TG and issues of 1956. 

Get out and get some life first.

[caesar]

5 minutes ago, Paidithalli said:

There is no strong congress supporter in this dB to answer your questions? 

Tell me .. What tdp has done for TG in United AP?  They rules us for 15 years in last 30.. what they did ?  

Telangana ni Andhra lo kalipindhi congress ..and why all of sudden in 2004 they announced for T

And why didn't they till 2009 atleast took no action ?? And u also agreed that T is not possible if YSR was alive?? Enduku 

Andhra people vadhu annaaaraa from 2004-2009 time frame??

T leaders 117 members from all parties they could fought .??

Why they didn't do that, Andhra people is a reason??

 

[Android_Halwa]

1 minute ago, caesar said:

At least Patel / patwari system : It was doom for TG. Motham social system collapse ayipoindi ie system aboliosh. Oka system abolish chesthe daniki replace emi lekunda implement chesina yedhava system idi. Andhra telivi itla vundi. 

SC/ST attrocity act( all, but SC are more in T) : SC,ST atrocities is a union act, state act kadu. ante central government act anamata

Women reservation...(applicable to all) : Emi women reservation ? ae reservation ? TDP govt lo pedaga peeki chesina implement chesindi aithe emi ledu.

Pump sets to farmers

2rs rice for all

I have some data on irrigation stuff, give me sometime i will let u know..

Inka CBN case ki vasthey at least HiTech City and empowerment to both T and AP people for pursuing jobs...

Global Image to HYD......A phase lo oka Hyd ae kadu, anni cities ki global image vache time. 

Inka chinna chinna vaati gurunchi nenu maatladanu, ofcourse u can debate

 

 

babu @caesar nuv chestunna ie panimikalina disco epudo aipoindi...

pani susuko, lekapothey bhajana sesuko..anthe kani maa vollu id peekinaru, adi peekinaru ani kathalu padaku

[Paidithalli]

69 lo chennareddy Pandabettaka malli movement vocchindhi 2000s lo..  YS start chesadu.. minestry icchi unte KCR vocchevada ani ...but anthakmundhe congress vallu velli letter iccharu sonia ki ..babu 2004 tharvatha weak avvadam tho .. opposition unna lenattugaa undedhi.. KCR 04-09 blunders chesadu.. 26 mlas ni 10 ki oadipoyela cheskunnadu.. adhi congress ni TG ivvakunda aapindhi.. YS poyaka jarigina incidents ni baga use cheskundhi KCR.. TG rakunda United gaa unna kani jagan tho kalipi govt form chrddham ani unnadu .. next CM annadhi fix .. luckily state vocchindhi ..  

[Paidithalli]

6 minutes ago, caesar said:

At least Patel / patwari system

SC/ST attrocity act( all, but SC are more in T)

Women reservation...(applicable to all)

Pump sets to farmers

2rs rice for all

I have some data on irrigation stuff, give me sometime i will let u know..

Inka CBN case ki vasthey at least HiTech City and empowerment to both T and AP people for pursuing jobs...

Global Image to HYD..

Inka chinna chinna vaati gurunchi nenu maatladanu, ofcourse u can debate

 

 

@Android_Halwa Anna should respond to this 😂😂

[Android_Halwa]

3 minutes ago, Paidithalli said:

@Android_Halwa Anna should respond to this 😂😂

ie topics mida epudo ayipoindi disco...

gadidi gallaki patel-patwari system ante endo telvadu....egesukunte vachestaru emi peekindu ra ayya ante patel-patwari ani...

ie system valle, telangana vyavasayam motham sankanakipoindi....

thanks to TDP for killing agriculture by abolishing a social system....

 

[caesar]

3 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Dude, don't you know why AP has to be joined with TG ? and remember, there was no agreement in the first place. Just a weird proposal and experiement and the result was disastrous for the next 50 years.

AP had no infrastructure to run the administration from Kurnool and had no option to get merged with Hyderabad to become Andhra Pradesh. 

Get your facts right first before your silly outburst and reference to Devenger Goud or Jana Reddy, who the hell are they and what do they had to do with TG and issues of 1956. 

Get out and get some life first.

Hello chinchukuko, in any sense I'm no where less to you..in commenting personally ...this thread should help some people andukey aduguthunaa..i was not all outbursting, u got to hold ur nerves tight please..

I didn't commented on those people or the leaders mentioned above..my concern is they are so called good leaders alaanti leaders kooda Telangana kosam voice raise chesina circumstances levu before 2009 atleast, why??? Adhi naa question...

Weird proposal kaadha anedhey out of question, it was agreed by both parties..

Had Andhra leaders were not agreed to it, perhaps there might be a decent capital in place by now ...it's a loss to AP also..ila dochukunaaru aney comments lekunda undey vallu...

 In one of thread u mentioned u will be always here   and u r asking others to get out ...u better do it first..

 

[Paidithalli]

7 minutes ago, caesar said:

Telangana ni Andhra lo kalipindhi congress ..and why all of sudden in 2004 they announced for T

And why didn't they till 2009 atleast took no action ?? And u also agreed that T is not possible if YSR was alive?? Enduku 

Andhra people vadhu annaaaraa from 2004-2009 time frame??

T leaders 117 members from all parties they could fought .??

Why they didn't do that, Andhra people is a reason??

 

Basha prayuktha rashtralani aa potti sriramulu dheeksha chesi kalipela chesadu..Jawahar Nehru apude annadu.. ishtam leni pelli idhi ani .. 

2004-2009 very good period of Indian economy as well as state .. adhi kakunda varshalu padinayi.. TRS 26 to 10 ki padindhi.. TG sentiment lekunda janalani mesmerize chesina ekaika netha YSR.. I don’t give any fcuk to his corruption . Country and congress needs a strong leader like him ..  

KCR resign chesina prathisari jeevananna ni nilabettadu.. Nenu YS vocchinapudu kalisa aa compaign lo .. assal antha janam eppudu chudaledhu.. 100crores karchu pettadu.. 10K votes tho odipoyindu jeevananna.. antha strong sentiment ni edhurkodam ante mamulu kadhu .. YSR  leader ante .. NTR tharvatha antha mass image evadiki raledhu ..

YS unte sagam mandhi TG people kuda state korukokapov