Why RTC in losses always?

[Satabdi]

Just now, turtle said:

tdp ki raakapothe congrats enduku. 

[argadorn]

3 minutes ago, tables said:

public transport ki profits lekapoina ok , but loss rakunda chuskovali.

public transport losses loney untundhi ....private drivers and rtc drivers sincearity chudu ...rtc driver gadu coolections pattinchukodu ...cheyyi ethi apithay bus stop ledhu ani apadu adey private gadu ayitay manchiga welcome ani tehskuntadu ...difference udnhi know....

[Idassamed]

5 minutes ago, Avakashavadi said:

other states being profited ? May be you are not aware of the services provided by other state's RTC. 

buses takuva and services ekuva unlike our RTC...and vala salaries kuda low comparitively..and compare the size..erstwhile APSRTC was the world's largest fleet operator and other state's fleet were no way near...

compare things of same magnitude..not just corporations and who said other state's RTC are in profits ? almost all the RTC's int he country are in losses and government is pumping money to save them...

This is true. In the Northern states the RTC is worst.

[argadorn]

1 minute ago, Idassamed said:

This is true. In the Northern states the RTC is worst.

mana pakka state nanded bus chusinavu ga pan unchutharu seat pakkana ...labbe gallu 

[Idassamed]

2 minutes ago, argadorn said:

mana pakka state nanded bus chusinavu ga pan unchutharu seat pakkana ...labbe gallu 

Abbo adhi oka daridramaina RTC service

[LordOfMud]

1 hour ago, whatsapp said:

https://www.sakshi.com/news/telangana/telangana-rtc-huge-loss-1085491

What can be done, I am seeing one reason is empty buses with 1 passenger it will still travel from one point to other no matter whats the distance just for 1 passenger because they have a schedule. 

Any suggestions to overcome losses? 

 

1 hour ago, Avakashavadi said:

Its a silly reason when compared to the losses RTC is mounting each year. 

 

55 minutes ago, tom bhayya said:

autos and private travels buses valla, busy routes lo passengersni vallu theesukupothunnaru, busy leni routes lo rtc velthunnayi 

SakShit dated Jun 12, 2018, 01:44 IST ................ eee news copied from...... maa      

Prof K Nageshwar on RTC losses:

Prof K Nageshwar

Published on Jun 11, 2018

 

 

[Idassamed]

22 minutes ago, LordOfMud said:

 

 

SakShit dated Jun 12, 2018, 01:44 IST ................ eee news copied from...... maa      

Prof K Nageshwar on RTC losses:

Prof K Nageshwar

Published on Jun 11, 2018

 

[siru]

1 hour ago, Avakashavadi said:

government should not run any buses...instead it should enforce regulations properly and create infrastructure and handover public transportation to private players..

for example : The government already owns buses and infrastructure through RTC. Its better to handover running and maintenance of the buses to private players through open bidding and let the private player run the buses and make profit. He would identify which is priority and profitable and can plug the loss making routes with alternative prospects.

India is of those last few countries or probably only major country where government runs transport system. handover RTC,railway and air to private players.

Air travel is now being managed by 88% private players and we can see the difference in quality of travel, frequency,competitive fares.

 

so are u telling me that public trasit in japan, USA and europe are owned/operated by private?

 

[Avakashavadi]

oh my god Prof.Nageshwar

RTC transport taxes enduku kadutundi anta...and he compares it with school education.

RTC is incorporated as a corporation, which deals with balance sheets, profits and losses where as school education is classified as a non-profit organisation in the country where the balance sheet does not has 'profit' column.

RTC has to pay MV taxes like everyone else as it is not classified as non-profit organisation. 

[siru]

2 hours ago, Avakashavadi said:

government should not run any buses...instead it should enforce regulations properly and create infrastructure and handover public transportation to private players..

for example : The government already owns buses and infrastructure through RTC. Its better to handover running and maintenance of the buses to private players through open bidding and let the private player run the buses and make profit. He would identify which is priority and profitable and can plug the loss making routes with alternative prospects.

India is of those last few countries or probably only major country where government runs transport system. handover RTC,railway and air to private players.

Air travel is now being managed by 88% private players and we can see the difference in quality of travel, frequency,competitive fares.

 

public transit should not be seen as a profit making business.. it is an essential serivce offered to the public.

you are dead wrong about trasnport system being privatized in major countries. Almost all countries run public transport thru transit governing bodies

[Avakashavadi]

Just now, siru said:

so are u telling me that public trasit in japan, USA and europe are owned/operated by private?

 

Yes. IN whole of europe, say Britain

British government owns National Rail which owns the railway tracks across the country. But the trains are actually run by the private operators. and not just train network, but even the road transport is also operated by private players who are usually given 5 year or 10 year leases.

For example : There are virgin trains in UK. These trains are operated by Virgin Group but the track on which these trains runs are owned by National Rail. Almsot all of the trains in UK including Virgin Group, FIrst Connect,docklands light rail, first arriva,firstscotrail are all private operated where the fares are fixed by the government and these players pay to the government for using and maitianing the tracks.

Same is the case with french railway,deutsche bahn, eurail, and other countries. In whole of europe, government pays the subsided tickets to private operators. Governments issue senior citizen passes, student passes etc but what ever the subsidised money if given to beenficiaries, are re-imbursed by the government to the operator.

[Avakashavadi]

Even in USA, AMTRAK does own the network but it is a private player and government pays Amtrak money to run partial services.

even in cities where Public transport is available, say in Los Angeles, the city buses are run by the city council but are not owned by the city but in fact, contracted by a leasing company to run on a schedule basis and city pays to the company to run the buses.

This is how public transport system should work.

[Avakashavadi]

In Japan, high speed rail network is owned and operated by Shinkansen trains...for which track network was funded by the japanese government but operation and maintenance is by a private player.

 

[siru]

1 minute ago, Avakashavadi said:

Yes. IN whole of europe, say Britain

British government owns National Rail which owns the railway tracks across the country. But the trains are actually run by the private operators. and not just train network, but even the road transport is also operated by private players who are usually given 5 year or 10 year leases.

For example : There are virgin trains in UK. These trains are operated by Virgin Group but the track on which these trains runs are owned by National Rail. Almsot all of the trains in UK including Virgin Group, FIrst Connect,docklands light rail, first arriva,firstscotrail are all private operated where the fares are fixed by the government and these players pay to the government for using and maitianing the tracks.

Same is the case with french railway,deutsche bahn, eurail, and other countries. In whole of europe, government pays the subsided tickets to private operators. Governments issue senior citizen passes, student passes etc but what ever the subsidised money if given to beenficiaries, are re-imbursed by the government to the operator.

but what about the city transit systems in those countries? 

New York City Transit Authority which is perhaps the  biggest public transit in the world is a govt. owned and operated.

same with any city's transit in usa and also in japan.

 

[Avakashavadi]

6 minutes ago, siru said:

public transit should not be seen as a profit making business.. it is an essential serivce offered to the public.

you are dead wrong about trasnport system being privatized in major countries. Almost all countries run public transport thru transit governing bodies

Transit governing bodies overlook the transport needs of the region, but they do NOT own and operate the service. 

The duty of the governing body is to identify and improve services but not to own fleet and manage a fleet and make a profit out of it.