In reversal, Trump signs order stopping family Seperation

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3 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Stand = My opinion on Trump's executive order.

My stand is not about supporting trump, its about the concern of the illegal immigrants and their plight.

yeah yeah whatever that makes you think you are more enlightened.

Even Trump asslickers are making the same argument that you are making. I see no difference. like always, you sound like a govt spokesperson, just repeating the same thing, over and over again.

 

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2 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

haha...very funny..!!!!! 

Its not canada ot germany...Its USA....Border agents have authority and power to decide the case and there is no law to protect them..

I have no idea what you talking about 'asylum' applications.

Yes, its gross abuse of international treaties and human rights violation but thats how it works...not since trump but since a long back...

since long time what? Even the idiotic Bush didn't separate families on this scale, and promote that as national security thingie on media shamelessly.

if you don't even know that the people detained are people who applied for asylum in US, then you are probably watching Fox News too much.

many of them detained, actually turned up at the border patrol, and asked to be let in for asylum. This is besides the regular human trafficking that happens to feed labour to local industries in california plantations, and meat industries all over the US.

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Horror show of America is going on

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18 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

think practically....border police arrests a family of crossing the border illegally and sends them to detention center

Now when they are at the detention center, the series of abuse starts. The kind of abuse what they undergo is much more horrible than 'Indian upper castes' did to 'Dalits'

What difference it would make when the family is together or not in a detention center when they know for sure that they gonna get deported soon to their home country ? 

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actually, many among arrested themselves turned up at one of the border patrol offices and asked to be let in. They didn't cross any illegally. such people were processed in earlier regimes.

in fact, majority of them came like that. those with kids.

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19 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

think practically....border police arrests a family of crossing the border illegally and sends them to detention center

Now when they are at the detention center, the series of abuse starts. The kind of abuse what they undergo is much more horrible than 'Indian upper castes' did to 'Dalits'

What difference it would make when the family is together or not in a detention center when they know for sure that they gonna get deported soon to their home country ? 

********Just read through above properly before your further comment ************

 

actually, no. They won't get deported (wrong term, because they are not in US yet, more like turned away at the border).

some of them may be accepted for asylum. but the process is going to take months. The children will housed with a child care center in the meanwhile aa? without any sort of parent interaction. It's possible that only the kids are given asylum and parents turned away. who knows, how these processes work.

and you think this is a good policy?

matter telikundaney, just oka edgy opinion cheppali ani chepthunnav kadha.

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whatever monster Obama was (which applies to all US presidents), Trump is 1000 times worse. and fcuking dumb too.

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40 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

ofcourse this will be backed off....100%...

if Trump dosent back off, its nothing less than a question of survival..

if not today, he would have backtracked in the days to come but it would have happened. 

there is public backlash, anger and aguish, and most importantly, opposition politics and naturally Trump will come down and he has...

I see no surprise in this move....infact, I was expecting such a move in the next few weeks but it happened much quicker than I thought...

come on man, look at other side of the story...its needed but not for a long stay.

so you were expecting 'moves' on stuff you don't even follow carefully. lol.

3yr old kid who was separated from her mother for 4 months, didn't recognize her mother when she was finally allowed to go.

keep supporting it. good luck.

antha kharchu petti US ki vachinaam, just to see US becoming the sort of society that we were escaping from. what an awesome idea.

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1 hour ago, uttermost said:

This is besides the regular human trafficking that happens to feed labour to local industries in california plantations, and meat industries all over the US.

This is very important and critical. Without them it's nightmare to power businesses in states. So many people give it a pass just because they don't know the magnitude of running one. 

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2 hours ago, uttermost said:

em matladthunnav? nee aa thala thoka leni thread ni nashanam chesina nenu 100% agree avthunna anipinchindha? neeku chadavadam ocha asalu?

Ninnu pilinchindi naa thread ki agree avvaledhu ani kaadhu. I knew your input there. Wanted to call you to this thread anthe

[Android_Halwa]

2 hours ago, uttermost said:

since long time what? Even the idiotic Bush didn't separate families on this scale, and promote that as national security thingie on media shamelessly.

if you don't even know that the people detained are people who applied for asylum in US, then you are probably watching Fox News too much.

many of them detained, actually turned up at the border patrol, and asked to be let in for asylum. This is besides the regular human trafficking that happens to feed labour to local industries in california plantations, and meat industries all over the US.

Yes, idiotic bush has not separated families...but had done nothing to prevent a situation which is so worst now...infact, every President has failed to curb illegal immigration since decades which has now turned into a monster problem where kids have to separated from parents in the detention centers. Blaming just Trump for this situation is illogical.

Equal blame has to be accorded to Parents who turn up at the border with Kids...Don't you think such parents should be responsible enough ?

Better don't question about my kids or my family....If I hurl the same question at you, Do you take your kids and stand in line at the border of USA ? one simple straight forward question, Do you take your kids along and stand in line at the border of USA ? 

 

[Android_Halwa]

2 hours ago, uttermost said:

so you were expecting 'moves' on stuff you don't even follow carefully. lol.

3yr old kid who was separated from her mother for 4 months, didn't recognize her mother when she was finally allowed to go.

keep supporting it. good luck.

antha kharchu petti US ki vachinaam, just to see US becoming the sort of society that we were escaping from. what an awesome idea.

So, who is to be blamed in this situation ? who is supposed to more responsible ? who is supposed to take care of the kids ? 

A woman or family, walks up to the border for what ever is the reason..asylum or what not...and allegedly they get held up and kids get a separate place to held up at detention centers, I do not see why Trump has to be responsible for this situation ? 

I wonder how can you NOT sense the fact that parents are supposed to take care of the kids and its the parent;s fault and wrong judgement or the hope of better life lured them to turn up at the border and what not...

Talking emotionally just because law has held up, is literally 'emotional' part of the brain speaking on yoru behalf...

I'm  but when my brain works normally, I see no difference in people rather I see them as individuals and make an opinion and it has nothing to do with support to Trump or anyone else. 

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1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said:

Yes, idiotic bush has not separated families...but had done nothing to prevent a situation which is so worst now...infact, every President has failed to curb illegal immigration since decades which has now turned into a monster problem where kids have to separated from parents in the detention centers. Blaming just Trump for this situation is illogical.

Equal blame has to be accorded to Parents who turn up at the border with Kids...Don't you think such parents should be responsible enough ?

Better don't question about my kids or my family....If I hurl the same question at you, Do you take your kids and stand in line at the border of USA ? one simple straight forward question, Do you take your kids along and stand in line at the border of USA ?

malli same paata paadaku ra babu. they don't want to solve the problem. Even Trump doesn't want to. He just wants people like you to believe he wants to.

nuvvu politicians tho undi nerchukunindhi idhey na?

blame for parents aa? they are escaping gang wars, and instability in their home lands (gautemala, el salvador) where US poked their nose for its benefit until the 1980s. Do you think wanting to get children to a safer place, even if somewhat hostile is irresponsible. Again, remember, they are turning up at the border patrol office and asking to be let in through proper procedure.

what did I question about you and your family? I said that you are making loose assertions of how its okay for the kids to be separated from parents, and it may not be a good idea for you to have kids. whats wrong with that, if you are so hands off as a parent?

As for me, if I was escaping persecution back home, I'll take my kids anywhere, suffer any form of insult and hardship to keep them safe. but remember 'keep them safe' is the operative word. Not give up my kids to potential pedophiles at the border.

you have no idea what you are even arguing about. just stop.

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2 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

So, who is to be blamed in this situation ? who is supposed to more responsible ? who is supposed to take care of the kids ? 

A woman or family, walks up to the border for what ever is the reason..asylum or what not...and allegedly they get held up and kids get a separate place to held up at detention centers, I do not see why Trump has to be responsible for this situation ? 

I wonder how can you NOT sense the fact that parents are supposed to take care of the kids and its the parent;s fault and wrong judgement or the hope of better life lured them to turn up at the border and what not...

Talking emotionally just because law has held up, is literally 'emotional' part of the brain speaking on yoru behalf...

I'm s0rry  but when my brain works normally, I see no difference in people rather I see them as individuals and make an opinion and it has nothing to do with support to Trump or anyone else. 

you don't see what Trump has to do with it? This policy was implemented only since the last 3 months, and he's out there lying that its the law of the land and that's how its been all the time (just like you lied few posts before).

Parents are taking care of their kids by trying to emigrate from areas that are unliveable, man. malli malli adhey cheppaku.

Its not the law to hold kids in separate detention centers. Even Trump has gone back on it, so what you are you even defending? your petty little ego?

no, you are trying to pretend you are smart by taking a contrary position to normal ones. nothing more.

either that, or you are a full blown psycho with no empathy.

 

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Halwa,

for you and others, making any sort of case for morality and decency is weakness. that's the world you live in.

even when its not the law to be cruel, you want people to be cruel, just so you can have the opportunity to sh1t on people who try to be decent?

nice society you are building for your kids to grow into. good luck.

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1 hour ago, tacobell fan said:

This is very important and critical. Without them it's nightmare to power businesses in states. So many people give it a pass just because they don't know the magnitude of running one. 

these guys are just playing politics. mana madhyalo unna psycho lu bayata ki osthunnaru daani valla.

1 hour ago, Rushabhi said:

Ninnu pilinchindi naa thread ki agree avvaledhu ani kaadhu. I knew your input there. Wanted to call you to this thread anthe

okay.