Old people eating into young people's future.

[Variety_Pullayya]

4 hours ago, uttermost said:

@futureofandhra don't come into this thread, and praise thatha as doing good for his people. No, not acceptable.

He's not doing for his people. If you think he is, you need to get out of the bubble you are in, because in a couple yrs you'll get a reality check. good luck.

Rich/Upper middle class NRIs follow the same anti poor attitude they had in India in US. such disgusting bunch of people. yuck.

better rot and die in US, you all. dont go back to India, and kill poor people there.

i am no trump supporter but he clearly said what he is gonna do when he wins and he is doing that. people voted for that. 

[uttermost]

4 minutes ago, Variety_Pullayya said:

i am no trump supporter but he clearly said what he is gonna do when he wins and he is doing that. people voted for that. 

no. he's broken every populist promise he made. He said he'll negotiate drug prices and bring it down. he didn't. He said he'll have something close to healthcare for all, without obamacare, he didn't.

He said he'll end lobbying by banning govt employees becoming lobbyists for a certain period of time. He didn't

He promised that he'll take away tax loopholes for the rich. He didn't.

The only thing he did was passing a tax break, and torture a few illegals, and people trying to apply for asylum.

He'll go down as the worst president ever.

[properpatola]

1 hour ago, uttermost said:

No. I think right to vote should be capped at the average life expectancy in a country.  Just like there's a minimum age for voting - 18.

I'm not sarcastic at all. I'm disgusted by old people who vote for Trump, and act like fcuking lunatics in their support for neo nazi gangs, carry incredible amount of hate in their hearts for non-whites. I really don't care if they roll up and die. They literally enjoy free healthcare, something they consistently have voted against for the society at large (including their children and grandchildren) at their prime working age, and even when they are close to dying age. They are truly despicable human beings (those among them who support Trump).

As for India, sure, young people are probably more Modi supporting in India. If they want Modi, then so be it. India will eventually get off the fascist dictator train, but the same logic applies. Old people past the avg life expectancy of a state, shouldn't be allowed to vote. If its 68 for bihar, then so be it. Let the state improve its life expectancy figures if it wants those old people to be eligible to vote too.

ofcourse, this is not a very well thought out idea. I'm open to be challenged on this.

That's your opinion which you are entitled to. But passing it as a law requires more than an opinion from a single or few individuals. You don't like who older people tend to vote.  Some of the older population might think that younger people tend to vote for whoever is popular on Social Networking sites.

Coming to hatred - Yes, I've experienced increase in hatred in general and everywhere. Here in the US by white and black men/women. Back in India by Telangana and Andhra people, North Indians, Tamilians, Kannadiga, Maharashtrians. I guess people have become more intolerant and are voting for leaders who share their beliefs. Hence you see Modi/Trump getting power. It's not just older people. It's others too. Without data it's hard to tell if it's purely because of older people. Hillary helped Trump win. She lied, misused her power many times. 

There should be a balance. Society can't have just young aggressive people vote. Hence Older people need to have their power to vote. 

Wikipedia - "The only known maximum voting age is in the Holy See, where the franchise for electing a new Pope is restricted to Cardinals under the age of 80."

 

[uttermost]

5 minutes ago, properpatola said:

That's your opinion which you are entitled to. But passing it as a law requires more than an opinion from a single or few individuals. You don't like who older people tend to vote.  Some of the older population might think that younger people tend to vote for whoever is popular on Social Networking sites.

Coming to hatred - Yes, I've experienced increase in hatred in general and everywhere. Here in the US by white and black men/women. Back in India by Telangana and Andhra people, North Indians, Tamilians, Kannadiga, Maharashtrians. I guess people have become more intolerant and are voting for leaders who share their beliefs. Hence you see Modi/Trump getting power. It's not just older people. It's others too. Without data it's hard to tell if it's purely because of older people. Hillary helped Trump win. She lied, misused her power many times. 

There should be a balance. Society can't have just young aggressive people vote. Hence Older people need to have their power to vote. 

Wikipedia - "The only known maximum voting age is in the Holy See, where the franchise for electing a new Pope is restricted to Cardinals under the age of 80."

 

you have not addressed any of what I said. 

Older people are the ones who support aggressive racist ideologies. Younger people overwhelmingly want free college tuition and healthcare, which the older gen doesn't want to vote for, while they enjoy free medical care.

you don't think that its cruel on the young people?

ofcourse there are some airheads among younger generation, but try and speak to random young person. You'll notice he/she is far smarter than you ever were when you were that age. Even if they were playing video games all day.

They are more politically aware, and understand historicity of what they are proposing, and have even proposed and created workarounds for that in their own communities. but the old gen just sits on the tired cliche of "work hard to get rich", when its impossible for most of them to do that under the current casino economy. 

The casino economy literally works for the old people with investments, at the expense of the young.

[uttermost]

6 minutes ago, properpatola said:

That's your opinion which you are entitled to. But passing it as a law requires more than an opinion from a single or few individuals. You don't like who older people tend to vote.  Some of the older population might think that younger people tend to vote for whoever is popular on Social Networking sites.

Coming to hatred - Yes, I've experienced increase in hatred in general and everywhere. Here in the US by white and black men/women. Back in India by Telangana and Andhra people, North Indians, Tamilians, Kannadiga, Maharashtrians. I guess people have become more intolerant and are voting for leaders who share their beliefs. Hence you see Modi/Trump getting power. It's not just older people. It's others too. Without data it's hard to tell if it's purely because of older people. Hillary helped Trump win. She lied, misused her power many times. 

There should be a balance. Society can't have just young aggressive people vote. Hence Older people need to have their power to vote. 

Wikipedia - "The only known maximum voting age is in the Holy See, where the franchise for electing a new Pope is restricted to Cardinals under the age of 80."

 

ofcourse its my opinion. In my ideal society, if oldies strike every proposal young people make, the young ones can simply walk away from the state, and form their own community.

let the oldies take care of themselves. lol.

[Variety_Pullayya]

1 minute ago, uttermost said:

you have not addressed any of what I said. 

Older people are the ones who support aggressive racist ideologies. Younger people overwhelmingly want free college tuition and healthcare, which the older gen doesn't want to vote for.

you don't think that its cruel on the young people?

ofcourse there are some airheads among younger generation, but try and speak to random young person. You'll notice he/she is far smarter than you ever were when you were that age. Even if they were playing video games all day.

They are more politically aware, and understand historicity of what they are proposing, and have even proposed and created workarounds for that in their own communities. but the old gen just sits on the tired cliche of "work hard to get rich", when its impossible for most of them to do that under the current casino economy. 

The casino economy literally works for the old people with investments, at the expense of the young.

problem with young generation is that they are easily swayed by liberal media. they believe a news article without really understanding the whole story behind it  they dont have time or interest in understanding the background. that comes with maturity and knowledge.

[uttermost]

12 minutes ago, Variety_Pullayya said:

problem with young generation is that they are easily swayed by liberal media. they believe a news article without really understanding the whole story behind it  they dont have time or interest in understanding the background. that comes with maturity and knowledge.

and the old people are matured and wise? lol. They are plain old racist fcuks, who can't bear that they have to share their country with new wave of immigrants.

They just got lucky with a good economy in the 60s to 80s, thanks to the same policies that young people are fighting for now.

The old people who after enjoying benefits of high taxation, are now voting for low taxation, because they are selfish fcuks don't give a damnn about their next gen.

again, not all old people. but a lot of them. I do respect old people who are thoughtful and decent. but they are not among trump supporters. no way.

 

[uttermost]

4 minutes ago, Variety_Pullayya said:

problem with young generation is that they are easily swayed by liberal media. they believe a news article without really understanding the whole story behind it  they dont have time or interest in understanding the background. that comes with maturity and knowledge.

are you just making this statement just out of thin air? young people are literally trying to get by, by working in low wage jobs, while also investing their time in community organizing.

you think they have no understanding of what they fight for? They have a depth of knowledge in what they fight for, that simply scares the old 'matured' people, who repeat bullshit like its the truth.

What special 'knowledge' do old people have? apart from the myth that hard work will make people rich. Do they have the balls to admit that everyone cannot be rich, even if everyone works hard? That's not the way economy is designed.

younger people instinctively understand this. US is not the force it was before 80s. Its down the drain. Younger people in the US will have to fight to change their politics to survive. Old fcuks still cling to their failed ideologies. lol. That's not maturity. Tht's just plain selfish behaviour. pathetic.

[uttermost]

don't say old people care about kids. They care only about themselves.

[Variety_Pullayya]

2 minutes ago, uttermost said:

are you just making this statement just out of thin air? young people are literally trying to get by, by working in low wage jobs, while also investing their time in community organizing.

you think they have no understanding of what they fight for? They have a depth of knowledge in what they fight for, that simply scares the old 'matured' people, who repeat bullshit like its the truth.

What special 'knowledge' do old people have? apart from the myth that hard work will make people rich. Do they have the balls to admit that everyone cannot be rich, even if everyone works hard? That's not the way economy is designed.

younger people instinctively understand this. US is not the force it was before 80s. Its down the drain. Younger people in the US will have to fight to change their politics to survive. Old fcuks still cling to their failed ideologies. lol. That's not maturity. Tht's just plain selfish behaviour. pathetic.

i am not making arguments out of thin air.there are young people who are motivated and fight for the rights...but their numbers are very low.  Problem is young generation is too much influenced by media. Being in democratic state , i can see how media , news and radio are brainwashing liberal ideas into people. i believe that every person should make their own political decision without influence. 

my argument is not to support older folks , its that every demographic has issues

[Beardman]

2 hours ago, Variety_Pullayya said:

problem with young generation is that they are easily swayed by liberal media. they believe a news article without really understanding the whole story behind it  they dont have time or interest in understanding the background. that comes with maturity and knowledge.

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[sattipandu]

7 hours ago, uttermost said:

@futureofandhra don't come into this thread, and praise thatha as doing good for his people. No, not acceptable.

He's not doing for his people. If you think he is, you need to get out of the bubble you are in, because in a couple yrs you'll get a reality check. good luck.

Rich/Upper middle class NRIs follow the same anti poor attitude they had in India in US. such disgusting bunch of people. yuck.

better rot and die in US, you all. dont go back to India, and kill poor people there.

ala moham meeda thappad 10guthaav endhi Bodi ne 10guthuuu Drumpf thatha ni support chesthey ney ego satisfy ayyedhi 

 

[uttermost]

1 hour ago, Variety_Pullayya said:

i am not making arguments out of thin air.there are young people who are motivated and fight for the rights...but their numbers are very low.  Problem is young generation is too much influenced by media. Being in democratic state , i can see how media , news and radio are brainwashing liberal ideas into people. i believe that every person should make their own political decision without influence. 

my argument is not to support older folks , its that every demographic has issues

What about brainwashing by conservative media like Fox news? do you think Fox news and CNN/every other msm is the same? how many old people watch that news and vote for Trump? are they 'matured' and wise?

anyway, you've conveniently avoided my main argument. That old fcuks vote against the future of young people. liberal brainwashing has nothing to do with it.

It is true that old people benefitted from huge taxes on the rich, and subsequent social spending. They voted for such policies in the 60s till 80s, until Ronald Reagan. So why not young people have the same environment? why is asking for that, liberal brainswashing? give me examples of liberal brainwashing pls.

old people are literally living off the work of younger people, while giving free advice about hard work.

ofcourse every demographic has issues. but younger people overwhelmingly support policies that help them, inspite of whatever you think about them being brainwashed or whatever.

older people support policies that help them. Simple. There's nothing matured or wise about older people. ofcourse there are exceptions. Old rich fcuks like Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson literally come on TV and argue for tax cuts. and you are worried about liberal brainwashing.. lol.

[uttermost]

2 hours ago, Variety_Pullayya said:

i am not making arguments out of thin air.there are young people who are motivated and fight for the rights...but their numbers are very low.  Problem is young generation is too much influenced by media. Being in democratic state , i can see how media , news and radio are brainwashing liberal ideas into people. i believe that every person should make their own political decision without influence. 

my argument is not to support older folks , its that every demographic has issues

Every old fcuk who says that universal healthcare is not good, while they themselves are enjoying free healthcare, should be shamed as a fcuking mooch. and there are many many old fcuks who do this. disgusting people.

If politically aware 15yr olds can't vote, senile 75yr olds can also fcuk right off. They should not be allowed to decide the fate of young people.

Anyway, I'm talking about old, reasonably rich people. Not all old people. I know some old people got conned into voting for Trump. They won't vote for him again. But all those old fcuks with 401ks will vote for Trump. And that is disgusting, when young people are working low wage jobs.

See brother, economy in the US is a zero sum game. its like a casino. and there are more losers than winners. Losers will organize and speak in one voice. that doesn't mean they are brainwashed. They are fighting for their rights and survival.

if you are talking about constant Russia scandal mentions on CNN/msnbc, yeah that one is silly. People who organize for politics don't really care about it. 

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