Debate on AP Govt Decision over Amaravathi Bonds

[Android_Halwa]

1 minute ago, TheBrahmabull said:

em matladutunnav bey..  HUDCO kadu central govt inolve ayina dentla AP ki help cheyatledu.. kallu kakulu minginaya.. naadi Nalgonda, Miryalaguda bey gaandu gaa. nelanti howlegallaki anthe anipistadi CBN ni support chesthe naadi andhra anukuntunnavemo pagal gaa

HUDCO giving loans at 10.5%, so CBN choose capital funding uh ?

daniki nee miryalguda ki link endi ra ayya ?

[Android_Halwa]

Just now, TheBrahmabull said:

varniee board ni g...deng...... inni boards enni paisalu ichirru raaa ippativaraku ? Show me howmany states are getting loans on which rate ? Not their fcuking catalog.  bacha poragani lekka chesthav .. abbreviations cheptav..

orinee ayyo....BIFR anedi paisal iyadu ra...paisal iyadu ra....

endukur a nee sagam dhamak thoti sataistunav HUDCO ani....

[TheBrahmabull]

Just now, Android_Halwa said:

HUDCO giving loans at 10.5%, so CBN choose capital funding uh ?

daniki nee miryalguda ki link endi ra ayya ?

daniki miryalaguda ki kadu raa ded dhamak..  mundu naaku response iyyu bey.. Bond structure explain chesina pina.. ippudu matladu lowdalo stories aapi

[TheBrahmabull]

chinchukuntunnav gaa.. Lets talk about Mission Kakateeya and bhageratha..

[Android_Halwa]

AP has crossed its debt celiling limit which is usually 6-70% of its receipts. 

institutional investors degarinundi borrow cheyaledu....endukante debt ceiling already cross ayipoindi...mee HUDCO aina...NABARD aina..oka rupai ivadu...Modi iyamanna ivadu. 

miryalguda kelli nuvvu vachi adigina kuda iyaru..

ae dikku leka capital markets nundi raise chesindu ra vadu paisal ni...nee ooru mokam la cheppu...

[TheBrahmabull]

1 minute ago, TheBrahmabull said:

daniki miryalaguda ki kadu raa ded dhamak..  mundu naaku response iyyu bey.. Bond structure explain chesina pina.. ippudu matladu lowdalo stories aapi

 

2 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

HUDCO giving loans at 10.5%, so CBN choose capital funding uh ?

daniki nee miryalguda ki link endi ra ayya ?

Arey HUDCO unsecured loan istunda ? deeniki answer chey ra. vuka institutions perlu esthe thelivi vundi anukuntunnava ra ?

[Android_Halwa]

1 minute ago, TheBrahmabull said:

daniki miryalaguda ki kadu raa ded dhamak..  mundu naaku response iyyu bey.. Bond structure explain chesina pina.. ippudu matladu lowdalo stories aapi

ehe nee....already chepina...BSE la CRDA list ayinaka next enti ?

CRDA is supposed to submit receipts..

trading la emi susukoni bonds value trade cheyali ?

[TheBrahmabull]

1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said:

AP has crossed its debt celiling limit which is usually 6-70% of its receipts. 

institutional investors degarinundi borrow cheyaledu....endukante debt ceiling already cross ayipoindi...mee HUDCO aina...NABARD aina..oka rupai ivadu...Modi iyamanna ivadu. 

miryalguda kelli nuvvu vachi adigina kuda iyaru..

ae dikku leka capital markets nundi raise chesindu ra vadu paisal ni...nee ooru mokam la cheppu...

AP's debt is well within the FRBM limits.  FRBM ante telusu kada. 

[TheBrahmabull]

7 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

AP has crossed its debt celiling limit which is usually 6-70% of its receipts. 

institutional investors degarinundi borrow cheyaledu....endukante debt ceiling already cross ayipoindi...mee HUDCO aina...NABARD aina..oka rupai ivadu...Modi iyamanna ivadu. 

miryalguda kelli nuvvu vachi adigina kuda iyaru..

ae dikku leka capital markets nundi raise chesindu ra vadu paisal ni...nee ooru mokam la cheppu...

arey dhed dhamak gaa.. Unsecured bonds ani chepthunte malli debt celing limit antav endi raa ? Any bonds which are not backed by any underlying asset to revenue generating unit is an unsecured bond.  Also Municipal bonds doesn't come under FRBM limits..

 

[Android_Halwa]

9 minutes ago, TheBrahmabull said:

AP's debt is well within the FRBM limits.  FRBM ante telusu kada. 

ori nee eenadu paper ga...FRBM  anedi monetory authority kaadu ra ayya...\enduku ra itla sava10gutunnav...mee gudem la gitla itle sataistava ?

[TheBrahmabull]

10 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

AP has crossed its debt celiling limit which is usually 6-70% of its receipts. 

institutional investors degarinundi borrow cheyaledu....endukante debt ceiling already cross ayipoindi...mee HUDCO aina...NABARD aina..oka rupai ivadu...Modi iyamanna ivadu. 

miryalguda kelli nuvvu vachi adigina kuda iyaru..

ae dikku leka capital markets nundi raise chesindu ra vadu paisal ni...nee ooru mokam la cheppu...

So what is your point ? 

[Android_Halwa]

1 minute ago, TheBrahmabull said:

arey dhed dhamak gaa.. Unsecured bonds ani chepthunte malli debt celing limit antav endi raa ? Any bonds which are not backed by any underlying asset to revenue generating unit is an unsecured bond.  Also Municipal bonds doesn't come under FRBM limits..

 

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arey item ga...can you even understanmd why AP govt has to go for bonds ? Not because HUDCO didnt give loan !10.5%, but because no institution is willing to give loan to 30 , 00 acres of litigation free land...

[TheBrahmabull]

Just now, Android_Halwa said:

ori nee eenadu paper ga...FRBM  anedi monetory authority kaadu ra ayya...\enduku ra itla sava10gutunnav...mee gudem la gitla itle sataistava ?

arey pichi badkav.. FRBM limit anna raa howle .. Authority ani ekkada anna raa. .. Maa gudem la nee lanthi falthu gallani Guddapalagodatharu gaani dengey iga .. Pina Bond structure ki reply isthalev .. erripuk abbrevations meaning cheptunnava raa howle..nee lanti gorregallaki mukkode correct

[TheBrahmabull]

1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said:

arey item ga...can you even understanmd why AP govt has to go for bonds ? Not because HUDCO didnt give loan !10.5%, but because no institution is willing to give loan to 30 , 00 acres of litigation free land...

hahaha vori pagal gaa nenu example ki cheppina bey about interest rate.  HUDCO kooda 10.5% tesukuntundi so ekkuva interest em kadu ani meaning raa lambadi thanda saale

[Android_Halwa]

15 minutes ago, TheBrahmabull said:

So what is your point ? 

My point is...CBN raised money from capital markets to fund something called ad dead investment. For which the state govt has to pay massive interest and for such bonds when CRDA gets listen on the exchange, depending on performance the value of bonds traded will eventually decided which will ofcourse will be on the losing side. SO out and out investors are losing money here. 

As its CRDA which is government controlled, so policies change evry 5 years and with such scenario, how could you reach out to capital market for welfare at such a high rate of interest ?