Petrol Thread .... Center already asked States to put Petrol under GST ani

[Spartan]

2 minutes ago, uttermost said:

see.. you are arguing atleast 3, 4 points here. and they are all contradictory.

1. adding petrol to GST will destroy state's revenue streams. States dont trust that center will make up that shortfall. center hasn't kept that promise earlier.

2. uniform rates are basically useless to everyone, except perhaps large corporates with multiple factories with a complex supply chain

3. GST in petrol will also make a dent in center's revenue. because under GST, taxes paid on petrol can be deducted for tax in the next stage. The effective tax on petrol will rduce to around 10% (compared to the current 50%). That's how GST works. Central govt will run out of money very soon, and will increase income tax drastically to cover the short fall.

I don't know, if anyone has talked about this obvious thing in Indian op-eds, but this is the obvious result of adding petrol to GST.

huge losses vachenta varaku kaadu kaani..situation ni ease chesenta varaku aina Center and States shud cut the taxes.

if they are not..then they dont have right to blame each other on price hike...and lets consumers suffer. and thats what is happening.. and on top of that..they (politicians) are trying to cash out on who is responsible for it by false facts...

[uttermost]

Just now, Spartan said:

huge losses vachenta varaku kaadu kaani..situation ni ease chesenta varaku aina Center and States shud cut the taxes.

 if they are not..then they dont have right to blame each other on price hike...and lets consumers suffer. and thats what is happening.. and on top of that..they (politicians) are trying to cash out on who is responsible for it by false facts...

It looks like Center should cut the taxes. because BJP govt has radically increased center's share since 2014. may be they should go back to pre 2014 levels on center's taxes.

state's I won't bother, because they make use of their money better. atleast my state does.

[dasara_bullodu]

3 minutes ago, Spartan said:

huge losses vachenta varaku kaadu kaani..situation ni ease chesenta varaku aina Center and States shud cut the taxes.

if they are not..then they dont have right to blame each other on price hike...and lets consumers suffer. and thats what is happening.. and on top of that..they (politicians) are trying to cash out on who is responsible for it by false facts...

Frankly speaking India is already getting depleted of resources ....there is no way we can survive by dialogue in coming 20 yrs.... that theory is done and dusted. Last month Swamy gave a statement on Maldives, we gotto start attacking. The game of defending is over, the required run rate is way too high

[Spartan]

3 minutes ago, dasara_bullodu said:

Frankly speaking India is already getting depleted of resources ....there is no way we can survive by dialogue in coming 20 yrs.... that theory is done and dusted. Last month Swamy gave a statement on Maldives, we gotto start attacking. The game of defending is over, the required run rate is way too high

attacking aite..we will be secluded...dont have strong backup if anything happens

[uttermost]

Just now, dasara_bullodu said:

Frankly speaking India is already getting depleted of resources ....there is no way we can survive by dialogue in coming 20 yrs.... that theory is done and dusted. Last month Swamy gave a statement on Maldives, we gotto start attacking. The game of defending is over, the required run rate is way too high

lol. attacking what? 

let me guess.. doing away with labour laws, introducing draconian land acquisition schemes, etc.

but does  Swamy have the balls to do this? This seems way more fantastical than my ramblings on anarchism. 

That bugger can't win even a ward seat in TN, and is afraid to set foot there. All that arrogance has just made him a joker.

Yeah, india is running out of resources. That's why you get out of India, and give more for the ones that live there. There's no other way. 

Indians are not responsive to authoritarianism. caste is the biggest stumbling block there too.

[uttermost]

Just now, Spartan said:

attacking aite..we will be secluded...dont have strong backup if anything happens

I don't think his 'attacking' is the attacking that you have in mind. 

He wants to attack India with some strong pro business policies. I'm assuming ofcourse

I've stopped listening to mad men like Swamy, once I realised I no longer care about India. I care about TN though.

[Spartan]

3 minutes ago, uttermost said:

I don't think his 'attacking' is the attacking that you have in mind. 

He wants to attack India with some strong pro business policies. I'm assuming ofcourse

I've stopped listening to mad men like Swamy, once I realised I no longer care about India. I care about TN though.

Swamy was talking about same attack and occupy Maldives...

[uttermost]

1 minute ago, Spartan said:

Swamy was talking about same attack and occupy Maldives...

lol.. what's the point of occupying a sh1t place like Maldives, that'll go under sea in a decade?

[Spartan]

Just now, uttermost said:

lol.. what's the point of occupying a sh1t place like Maldives, that'll go under sea in a decade?

vallu not listening to Indian govt ani..

[uttermost]

the funny thing is, none of the right wingers have a clue about economy.

All they have is fantasies about becoming an export oriented economy. Even that is not possible with India.

people like Swamy just do the speaking circuit so they can indulge in mass masturbation about the possibilities of Strong Bharath.

but they'll never question people of their own caste, be impartial etc. That's why no one takes them seriously.

[dasara_bullodu]

9 minutes ago, Spartan said:

attacking aite..we will be secluded...dont have strong backup if anything happens

attack aithe we will be in the game ... our perception changes...

we didn't have backup when Bangladesh got freedom. Fight cheyyakunda allies enduku vastaru ...no one respects someone who can't stand up for themselves, law of nature

[uttermost]

2 minutes ago, Spartan said:

vallu not listening to Indian govt ani..

oh I misread what dasara boi wrote. 'on' maldives as 'in' maldives. lol.

my mistake. then what he said is even more pointless than I gave him credit for. haha.

[dasara_bullodu]

7 minutes ago, uttermost said:

lol.. what's the point of occupying a sh1t place like Maldives, that'll go under sea in a decade?

ya Maldives ... China toppled the Govt there, or some influence war is going on.. Britian is clinging in international court to get it . They are no resources but stategic bases

ee kaalam lo network is far more important than simple strength

[uttermost]

Just now, dasara_bullodu said:

attack aithe we will be in the game ... our perception changes...

we didn't have backup when Bangladesh got freedom. Fight cheyyakunda allies enduku vastaru ...no one respects someone who can't stand up for themselves, law of nature

lol. how is depletion of resources connected to this?

Is india getting a raw deal because it is perceived as weak  by outside forces?

what'll be cost of war? Can India bear it? Will india's factory output raise substantially with war?

do right wing nationalists have a clue when they claim to have the power to do everything under the sun?

[dasara_bullodu]

4 minutes ago, uttermost said:

the funny thing is, none of the right wingers have a clue about economy.

All they have is fantasies about becoming an export oriented economy. Even that is not possible with India.

people like Swamy just do the speaking circuit so they can indulge in mass masturbation about the possibilities of Strong Bharath.

but they'll never question people of their own caste, be impartial etc. That's why no one takes them seriously.

Caste is a joke in India, once some govt comes and announces freebies with some new terminology, 90% of Indians will change their caste ...