what happens when there's equality (relatviely) in society??

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5 hours ago, Rimbolamaster said:

Their vs us, rich vs poor kadu.

This is how brains are wired.This is how brains function.

Most poorest of the lot teesko...they will also have the same hierarchy of needs.

Ikkada you have to understand...millions of years of living in forests as foragers made homo sapiens brains to function that way.

Psychology is a bull science ani braod ga generalize chesi 7th class pillodu la matladaku. If psychology is such bull science mari psychological issues ki drugs enduku chestunattu millions of dollars invest chesi companies.

Valla kanna telivi gallodivi kadu kada.

Human biological and psychological needs are set in stone ae...aa stone ne DNA antaru.

FYI even kukkalki kuda psychological needs apart from their physiological and biological needs untai.

Kukkalki kuda oka society and vatilo inequality untadantava.

Chaduvu. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/animal-emotions/201705/hierarchy-dog-needs-abraham-maslow-meets-the-mutts%3famp

anna.. malli esaav ga.. 

psychiatry ki psychology ki theda telikunda erri p discussion lu pettaku. psychiatric drugs do work, and they are different from psychology bullshit about 'hierarchy of needs'.. This is worse than social science research.

when did I say taht poor people don't have hierarchies?

there's no such thing as 'psychological' need. its what people like you tell yourself so you don't have to feel bad about stepping on others for your success.. Even if there was a 'psychological' need, its not properly studied yet under controlled environments. Because such controlled environments are impossible to repicate for this research like it is for most other research.

so stop justifying bullshit.

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2 minutes ago, reality_check said:

I will summon and enjoy special treatment. Because I can. 

ok. so?

you'll also pretend to want fairness.. again, so?

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5 hours ago, Rimbolamaster said:

Their vs us, rich vs poor kadu.

This is how brains are wired.This is how brains function.

Most poorest of the lot teesko...they will also have the same hierarchy of needs.

Ikkada you have to understand...millions of years of living in forests as foragers made homo sapiens brains to function that way.

Psychology is a bull science ani braod ga generalize chesi 7th class pillodu la matladaku. If psychology is such bull science mari psychological issues ki drugs enduku chestunattu millions of dollars invest chesi companies.

Valla kanna telivi gallodivi kadu kada.

Human biological and psychological needs are set in stone ae...aa stone ne DNA antaru.

FYI even kukkalki kuda psychological needs apart from their physiological and biological needs untai.

Kukkalki kuda oka society and vatilo inequality untadantava.

Chaduvu. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/animal-emotions/201705/hierarchy-dog-needs-abraham-maslow-meets-the-mutts%3famp

first of all, nenu society lo equality kaavaali annaana? 

lol brother.

you keep agreeing with my observation, and say that it is set in stone. If its set in stone, then varna system should be celebrated. why do you think its looked down upon? or is it liberal conspiracy to attack the greatest contribution of Hindus to the world? lol.

 no, it is not set in stone. you wish it was, because it'll make you sleep well at night. nothing more.

human are more complex creatures than that. you seem to two dimensional in your thought. and so are almost everyone in this db. llike frogs in a well.

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5 hours ago, Rimbolamaster said:

Their vs us, rich vs poor kadu.

This is how brains are wired.This is how brains function.

Most poorest of the lot teesko...they will also have the same hierarchy of needs.

Ikkada you have to understand...millions of years of living in forests as foragers made homo sapiens brains to function that way.

Psychology is a bull science ani braod ga generalize chesi 7th class pillodu la matladaku. If psychology is such bull science mari psychological issues ki drugs enduku chestunattu millions of dollars invest chesi companies.

Valla kanna telivi gallodivi kadu kada.

Human biological and psychological needs are set in stone ae...aa stone ne DNA antaru.

FYI even kukkalki kuda psychological needs apart from their physiological and biological needs untai.

Kukkalki kuda oka society and vatilo inequality untadantava.

Chaduvu. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/animal-emotions/201705/hierarchy-dog-needs-abraham-maslow-meets-the-mutts%3famp

humans definitely have the instinct for survival. that's what is at work here probably.. not 'hierarchy of needs'.. It sounds like corporate bullshit talk.

humans organize society in a particular way.. and the rest of them simply follow that architecture, because they want to survive, thrive or whatever. They hardly ask themselves if things can be done better. when they do ask.. and seriously.. things change.

nothing is set in stone. If it was, humans would be living in caves.

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1 hour ago, uttermost said:

ok. so?

you'll also pretend to want fairness.. again, so?

What so? What fairness? 

[Rimbolamaster]

1 hour ago, uttermost said:

anna.. malli esaav ga.. 

psychiatry ki psychology ki theda telikunda erri p discussion lu pettaku. psychiatric drugs do work, and they are different from psychology bullshit about 'hierarchy of needs'.. This is worse than social science research.

when did I say taht poor people don't have hierarchies?

there's no such thing as 'psychological' need. its what people like you tell yourself so you don't have to feel bad about stepping on others for your success.. Even if there was a 'psychological' need, its not properly studied yet under controlled environments. Because such controlled environments are impossible to repicate for this research like it is for most other research.

so stop justifying bullshit.

 

1 hour ago, uttermost said:

first of all, nenu society lo equality kaavaali annaana? 

lol brother.

you keep agreeing with my observation, and say that it is set in stone. If its set in stone, then varna system should be celebrated. why do you think its looked down upon? or is it liberal conspiracy to attack the greatest contribution of Hindus to the world? lol.

 no, it is not set in stone. you wish it was, because it'll make you sleep well at night. nothing more.

human are more complex creatures than that. you seem to two dimensional in your thought. and so are almost everyone in this db. llike frogs in a well.

 

1 hour ago, uttermost said:

humans definitely have the instinct for survival. that's what is at work here probably.. not 'hierarchy of needs'.. It sounds like corporate bullshit talk.

humans organize society in a particular way.. and the rest of them simply follow that architecture, because they want to survive, thrive or whatever. They hardly ask themselves if things can be done better. when they do ask.. and seriously.. things change.

nothing is set in stone. If it was, humans would be living in caves.

First and foremost ask any medical degree holders if they are thought maslow's theory. If it isnt accepted all over the world. Why would people teach it. If it was such a bullshit theory.and also ask how many people have been treated and their lives were benefitted by behavioural modification therapy. That is what psychologists do.

Neeku telvatini Vati gurinchi matladaku first thing.dont make a fool of your self. Annav kada erri fuu discussions ani...nee laga research cheyakunda matladevallani em anali mari. Lol lol lol.

Nuvvemanna researcher va there is no such thing as psychological need ani ala oka statement padeyadaniki.

Malli same observation. Research before talking. Avesham kadu alochana chey.

Ikkada Varna system discussion useless. Social exclusion kadu kada nee original post. Nee post specifically said upper middle class always wants to be special and kada....ikkada it is a discussion bw everyone needs that feeling of being in a special place ani kada cheppedi...like you only accepted everyone has psychological needs ani...you came round to my point. Tippi tippi rastunnav ade concept ni.

world health organization definition of health chudu po oka sari.....aa definition chusi post cheyava please.

Aa survival phase gurinchi kadu ikkada discussion....marii one dimensional ga alochinchaku. Koncham telivi toni alochinchu.

Social conditions eppudu same untaya? 15th century conditions ae inka unnaya ippudu.  Mari if people dont try to change social revolutions enduku vachinatto cheppu saami.

Nee behaviour is based on your needs which are dictated by your dna.aveshapadakunda evolutionary biology ane oka topic lo research chey

 What it says ani.

baavi lo unna anni Kappallo telivaina kappavi ani feel autunnav kani...you're still in the well anna.

 

 

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1 hour ago, reality_check said:

What so? What fairness? 

what what?

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first quote seyyadam sarigga nerchuko. ila cheyyyali.

 

1 hour ago, Rimbolamaster said:

First and foremost ask any medical degree holders if they are thought maslow's theory. If it isnt accepted all over the world. Why would people teach it.

how do 'medical' degree holders benefit from this bullshit theory? edho cheppaala ani chepthunnava.. lol. I thought people were taught physiology in medicine mostly. They taught vikram and bethal stories when I was a kid, and we all enjoyed it.. does it mean I will use morals from that stories as an argument? lol

1 hour ago, Rimbolamaster said:

If it was such a bullshit theory.and also ask how many people have been treated and their lives were benefitted by behavioural modification therapy. That is what psychologists do.

psychologists claim to do lot, none of which is actually proven to be beneficial to overall human experience. and I just checked this 'maslov' theory of needs. It doesn't mention any pyschological need. so were you winging it by pretending to know what it said? It just talks about normal human needs.. show me where it says taht human has to dominate to feel good about himself. That's what I'm talking about here. Not needs like love, security, family etc.

1 hour ago, Rimbolamaster said:

Neeku telvatini Vati gurinchi matladaku first thing.dont make a fool of your self. Annav kada erri fuu discussions ani...nee laga research cheyakunda matladevallani em anali mari. Lol lol lol.

yes. you are still doing erri fu discussion only.

1 hour ago, Rimbolamaster said:

Nuvvemanna researcher va there is no such thing as psychological need ani ala oka statement padeyadaniki.

Malli same observation. Research before talking. Avesham kadu alochana chey.

yes. I'm a researcher. but not in bullshit science like pyschology.

1 hour ago, Rimbolamaster said:

world health organization definition of health chudu po oka sari.....aa definition chusi post cheyava please.

sollu aapu ra babu. world health organizaation em chepthondi? that you have to dominate, and grab everything for yourself to achieve satisfaction in life anaa? lol

1 hour ago, Rimbolamaster said:

 Aa survival phase gurinchi kadu ikkada discussion....marii one dimensional ga alochinchaku. Koncham telivi toni alochinchu.

asalu nuvvu deni meedha argue chesthunnavo neekey teliyatla. lol

1 hour ago, Rimbolamaster said:

Aa survival phase gurinchi kadu ikkada discussion....marii one dimensional ga alochinchaku. Koncham telivi toni alochinchu.

 Social conditions eppudu same untaya? 15th century conditions ae inka unnaya ippudu.  Mari if people dont try to change social revolutions enduku vachinatto cheppu saami.

endhi saami nee badha.. nenu vesina topic enti, nee sollu enti? explain chestha choodu.

for eg.money grows in trees (means it is unlimited in supply, constrained only by how much the society wants it). the only decision left to make is how to allocate this money, and how to arrange that it is reasonably in circulation (ie. not sitting in someone's bank account/asset like land and being unproductive).

to this effect, societies decide to either be crony capitalist (India, US, China) encouraging all sorts of exploitation (labour, environment etc). These societies seem to do better than, societies that hold back on their mob psycho feeling (like Europe, apart from racism) and decdie to allocate more to the health and education of their citizens.

In venezuela, which was under colonial rule (by pr0xy) until the late 90s, when Chavez won the presidency, and deccided to use oil money to feed the people, clothe them, etc.. That is hated by the upper middle class, who tried to kill him (one of them flew an helicopter into the parliament. lol).. that's the desperation upper middle class people who are already well off, show in a society with rlative equality.

do you think that psycho behaviour is innate, and needs to be encouraged? that's not waht the maslow needs thing seems to be.

1 hour ago, Rimbolamaster said:

Nee behaviour is based on your needs which are dictated by your dna.aveshapadakunda evolutionary biology ane oka topic lo research chey

anna.. nuvvu pedda pedda maatalu maatladthunnav. evolutionary biology lo nundi em telusukovaali.. oo pali cheppu. lol.

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ee sollantha aapi.. understand what i said.

I said societies that encourage frauds, spend more on military than on their citizens health seem to do comparatively better than societies that focus on their citizens. because its upper middle class (majority are frauds and losers) can make easy money, and maintain a social status, and shame others into conforming.

I was wondering where exactly in the chain should there be a trigger for the relatively equal society to start being as dynamic as the fraud society.

but I do understand that people are innately lazy.. they settle down in a particular job, with a particular partner, and particular friends. and don't want their utopia to be disturbed.

That is perhaps the reason why frauds, and mediocre assholes rule the society while the smart conscientious ones languish at the margins.