To all the chauvanists in this DB including Staysafebro

[DrBeta]

Although I don't agree with a lot of things you believe in, fact of the matter is, I am not a feminist. I think that women who strive to be equal to men lack ambition. I simply think that if a woman is unable to prove to herself and to the world, that she is equally competent as a man is, then she should stop blaming it on gender discrimination. I don't think women should fight for equal rights. I think what women need to work on is proving to the world that they are more competent. Walking against the tide takes more effort, just like proving to the world that strongly believes that women are less competent. So, to the so called "feminists" out there, stop whining and start putting in extra effort, nothing worth having comes easy. 

PS: I also think that any person who fails to reach their true potential should just die. This particularly applies to women who fail to realize their true potential because of whatsoever restrictions they have. 

[BDurruti]

who said you are a feminist?

you are a neoliberal, who refuses to acknowledge the complexity of a modern social and economic system that a human has to live under. and believe that such complexity can be  somewhat navigated by just working harder/smarter and being better than the competition.

but s0rry, societies can't be structured as only a a winners take all enterprise, and for losers to simply take themselves off the equation by killing themselves. Because what is winning or losing? these are just social constructs meaningless to actual lives of people.

feminism is not about one loud woman whining about her being discriminated, but about challenging the structure (inspite of how complicated it is, and how less anyone understands how it works) to be fairer to women, transgenders, queer etc.

you are literally asking women to suck it all up, and shut up. why? just because you are irritated that some idiots called you a feminist, and you don't identify as one? I think you should take it easy, and work on your stuff, and let the social scientists try to understand the society.

I've not met a single STEM guy (including me) who has any idea what he/she is talking about when talking about society. There's a built in bias in each person, that is taken out of the equation only in peer reviewed statistical research. Until that is figured out, keeping all people alive, so we can have the maximum chance of survival as a species is a worthy goal, than asking people to kill themselves just because they couldn't become an awesome corporate slave of the month.

 

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[DrBeta]

Failing is so much better than not trying. It's alright if you failed while trying to do something with your life but it's not alright to not try. I am not talking about the social structure or the complexity involved, the point I am trying to make is that, if you're to prove that you're worth it, you need to prove it despite the lack of opportunity. And it's alright to fail while proving it. 

[perugu_vada]

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6 minutes ago, BDurruti said:

who said you are a feminist?

you are a neoliberal, who refuses to acknowledge the complexity of a modern social and economic system that a human has to live under. and believe that such complexity can be  somewhat navigated by just working harder/smarter and being better than the competition.

but s0rry, societies can't be structured as only a a winners take all enterprise, and for losers to simply take themselves off the equation by killing themselves. Because what is winning or losing? these are just social constructs meaningless to actual lives of people.

feminism is not about one loud woman whining about her being discriminated, but about challenging the structure (inspite of how complicated it is, and how less anyone understands how it works) to be fairer to women, transgenders, queer etc.

you are literally asking women to suck it all up, and shut up. why? just because you are irritated that some idiots called you a feminist, and you don't identify as one? I think you should take it easy, and work on your stuff, and let the social scientists try to understand the society.

I've not met a single STEM guy (including me) who has any idea what he/she is talking about when talking about society. There's a built in bias in each person, that is taken out of the equation only in peer reviewed statistical research. Until that is figured out, keeping all people alive, so we can have the maximum chance of survival as a species is a worthy goal, than asking people to kill themselves just because they couldn't become an awesome corporate slave of the month.

 

Well said BD

[BDurruti]

1 minute ago, DrBeta said:

Failing is so much better than not trying. It's alright if you failed while trying to do something with your life but it's not alright to not try. I am not talking about the social structure or the complexity involved, the point I am trying to make is that, if you're to prove that you're worth it, you need to prove yourself despite the lack of opportunity. And it's alright to fail while proving it. 

what about castigating others for not trying? what is it better than? is it better than not trying?

people work at their own pace. sure, in a commoditized market, certain skills are more worth than others. doesn't mean everyone who can't pick themselves up and change their entire lives in a jiffy shouldn't even complain.

I believe you are focusing on the fringes of a movement, and i understand that some women do take advantage of feminism to get their way. But you have to work around these things, because what's the piont in complaining? won't you be doing the same thing that you accuse them of?

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1 minute ago, BDurruti said:

what about castigating others for not trying? what is it better than? is it better than not trying?

people work at their own pace. sure, in a commoditized market, certain skills are more worth than others. doesn't mean everyone who can't pick themselves up and change their entire lives in a jiffy shouldn't even complain.

I believe you are focusing on the fringes of a movement, and i understand that some women do take advantage of feminism to get their way. But you have to work around these things, because what's the piont in complaining? won't you be doing the same thing that you accuse them of?

Malli well said BD

[DrBeta]

Would you rather believe ten women that are whining about being discriminated and failed to achieve her dreams or would you believe that one women who proves to be more competent than other men? What we need is more women like the later, what we need is more role models for young girls to dream about, to pursue science because women in science is more a thing than women as Victoria secret models. 

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8 minutes ago, DrBeta said:

Failing is so much better than not trying. It's alright if you failed while trying to do something with your life but it's not alright to not try. I am not talking about the social structure or the complexity involved, the point I am trying to make is that, if you're to prove that you're worth it, you need to prove it despite the lack of opportunity. And it's alright to fail while proving it. 

Failing antaav ? Trying antaav? Deniki Try cheyali? enduku cheyali?

[BDurruti]

Just now, DrBeta said:

Would you rather believe ten women that are whining about being discriminated and failed to achieve her dreams or would you believe that one women who proves to be more competent than other men? What we need is more women like the later, what we need is more role models for young girls to dream about, to pursue science because women in science is more a thing than women as Victoria secret models.  

life is not a competition.

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Just now, BDurruti said:

life is not a competition.

Avunu correst BD

[DrBeta]

3 minutes ago, BDurruti said:

what about castigating others for not trying? what is it better than? is it better than not trying?

people work at their own pace. sure, in a commoditized market, certain skills are more worth than others. doesn't mean everyone who can't pick themselves up and change their entire lives in a jiffy shouldn't even complain.

I believe you are focusing on the fringes of a movement, and i understand that some women do take advantage of feminism to get their way. But you have to work around these things, because what's the piont in complaining? won't you be doing the same thing that you accuse them of?

To the world which strongly believes that little girls are supposed to wear pink and look pretty because that's what they are meant to be, do you think more change will come around by complaining about it? Or change will come around by having more women pursue STEM fields and making little girls dream beyond Barbie dolls?

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2 minutes ago, DrBeta said:

To the world which strongly believes that little girls are supposed to wear pink and look pretty because that's what they are meant to be, do you think more change will come around by complaining about it? Or change will come around by having more women pursue STEM fields and making little girls dream beyond Barbie dolls?

Nuvvu BD cheppindi oppuko beta 

[DrBeta]

4 minutes ago, BDurruti said:

life is not a competition.

Life is not a race. But life should have a purpose. If you don't have a purpose in life, you should just die.