libraguy86 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers Quote
kakatiya Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 The problem for 737 max is not in code, it's engineering design flaw followed by keeping it as secret though they knew it. They didn't train the pilots enough. They wanted a plane that can beat it's rival Airbus in short span of time. Quote
libraguy86 Posted June 29, 2019 Author Report Posted June 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, kakatiya said: The problem for 737 max is not in code, it's engineering design flaw followed by keeping it as secret though they knew it. They didn't train the pilots enough. They wanted a plane that can beat it's rival Airbus in short span of time. True we r totally aware but look at this post they wrote in such a way that Russia messed up and HCL and H1b. veeduki enduku if it is $9 or $10 pay in India ithey Quote
bobby12345 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 57 minutes ago, libraguy86 said: True we r totally aware but look at this post they wrote in such a way that Russia messed up and HCL and H1b. veeduki enduku if it is $9 or $10 pay in India ithey Exactly ... Eppudu e pichi tellollu propaganda start chestaru....hcl company vallu biscuit chesaru ani .... Quote
jpismahatma Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 I highly doubt if HCL was included in this.. I think HCL is not capable for working on something like this. They are bunch of idiots.. they can do some programming and maintenance not something related to electrical software. Quote
chittimallu_14 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 hehe code rasindi HCL aina.. leka ameerpet lo unna naresh technologies aina the blame wont go to them... the blame would solely go to FAA for letting the plane fly when boeing tried to not re-certify it as a new model but fixed the cracks with a duct tape... what a bunch of morons Quote
Anta Assamey Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 Evadu raste endi. ..... FAA em peekindi ... how did it let slip through its approval ... Quote
Rushabhi Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 Hcl vaadu clear ga we are not involved ani chepthonte. Also Boeing vaadu hcl is not involved ani chepthonte. Sounds very propagandist and shifting the blame elsewhere. Very very inaccurate and convoluted piece of reporting Quote
Sarvapindi Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rushabhi said: Hcl vaadu clear ga we are not involved ani chepthonte. Also Boeing vaadu hcl is not involved ani chepthonte. Sounds very propagandist and shifting the blame elsewhere. Very very inaccurate and convoluted piece of reporting Cheptonte ante enti aunty 1 Quote
chittimallu_14 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Anta Assamey said: Evadu raste endi. ..... FAA em peekindi ... how did it let slip through its approval ... There is nothing to "slip" in the software approval... chala mandhi confuse avthunnaru thinking there is an error in the software which is not true.. SW lo elanti problem ledu, but the problem is the way they used the SW... for example, they wanted the software to to add 2+2 and give the flight an answer of 4, and the software exactly does that and spits out an answer of 4 when the conditions are met (2+2 in this case). However, the 4 is not what they want here, which means they used the wrong equations at a wrong place. There are multi level errors in this disaster, starting from the length of the landing gear to engine position which they tried to rectify by some computer programming. FAA acted blind in this entire process and let Boeing not go through a re certification which is needed for a every new model airplane. 1 Quote
Dr_sheldoncooper2 Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 20 hours ago, chittimallu_14 said: There is nothing to "slip" in the software approval... chala mandhi confuse avthunnaru thinking there is an error in the software which is not true.. SW lo elanti problem ledu, but the problem is the way they used the SW... for example, they wanted the software to to add 2+2 and give the flight an answer of 4, and the software exactly does that and spits out an answer of 4 when the conditions are met (2+2 in this case). However, the 4 is not what they want here, which means they used the wrong equations at a wrong place. There are multi level errors in this disaster, starting from the length of the landing gear to engine position which they tried to rectify by some computer programming. FAA acted blind in this entire process and let Boeing not go through a re certification which is needed for a every new model airplane. Are you Boeing outside Quote
jpismahatma Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dr_sheldoncooper2 said: Are you Boeing outside he is hcl insider.. Quote
ekunadam_enkanna Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 22 hours ago, Rushabhi said: Hcl vaadu clear ga we are not involved ani chepthonte. Also Boeing vaadu hcl is not involved ani chepthonte. Sounds very propagandist and shifting the blame elsewhere. Very very inaccurate and convoluted piece of reporting I don't trust what spox of Boeing and HCL say, since their statements are provided by their legal counsel. Here is what Boeing said: Quote Boeing, however, has refuted the allegation, saying it did not rely on engineers from these companies for the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation (MCA) System, a fault in which allegedly caused Lion Air crash in October 2018 and the Ethiopian Airlines disaster in March. Boeing has also denied involving these engineers for addressing cockpit warning light issue, which was revealed after these crashes. As many as 356 people were killed in these two crashes. The above doesn't contradict this scenario: Boeing gave specs or requirements for some piece of it; HCL would have developed; Boeing would have it tested by another Vendor or another in house team; etc. This amounts to "Not relying on engineers from HCL, Cyient". Quote
chittimallu_14 Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr_sheldoncooper2 said: Are you Boeing outside No... just an airplane enthusiast Quote
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