Kool_SRG Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, GullyBoy said: leave abt their batting endi.. topic is about batting of sir rishab panty no? Poni mundu 90s lo eh team lo batsmen who was great striker oh cheppu and can turn the game with his batting... Don't compare keepers across generations on batting skills since earlier it was a specialized job... Quote
argadorn Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, GullyBoy said: if u followed indian cricket in 90s and before dhoni.. indian batting was always 10 man team.. wk keeper was non existent.. mongia, saba karim, msk prasad ilanti bgrade keepers.. aa time lo dhoni ochadu.. hes not just keeper.. chala yrs wkts padina dhoni unnadu chuskuntadu ane feeling ochela chesadu.. so called selfboasting captains like langaly, dravid peekaleni WCs(t20, odi) formats techi pettadu.. ippudu he can retire or disappear no one cares.. but what he did has to be respected.. poyi poyi okka match hadavidi chesina teenager tho compare seyyadam endi silly kakapothe 1 Quote
GullyBoy Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kool_SRG said: Poni mundu 90s lo eh team lo batsmen who was great striker oh cheppu and can turn the game with his batting... Don't compare keepers across generations on batting skills since earlier it was a specialized job... ante mana desam lo ne inkodu undunte vaadi peru cheptav.. ledante vere countries lo evaru leru kabatti its ok antava? Quote
GullyBoy Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Kool_SRG said: Poni mundu 90s lo eh team lo batsmen who was great striker oh cheppu and can turn the game with his batting... Don't compare keepers across generations on batting skills since earlier it was a specialized job... mana daggara pudingulu undunte dravid, robin singh lantollu wkt keeping cheyalsina karmenti vayya Quote
Kool_SRG Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, GullyBoy said: ante mana desam lo ne inkodu undunte vaadi peru cheptav.. ledante vere countries lo evaru leru kabatti its ok antava? nothing as such keeping lo mundu only keeping skills ki importance ichevaaru batting contribution was secondary once gilly came in to the picture scene changed they started looking for batting skills also such was his impact on the game, chala teams enthala ante batting baagundi just ok ok keepers (Batsmen who can keep) ni kuda tried a lot but all didn't succeed... Later players evolved like keepers also started taking batting seriously.. Nuvvu mongia , saba karim & MSK Prasad daggara aaagipoyaavu India itself under ganguly tried lots keepers like Sameer Dighe, Vijay Dahiya, Ajay Ratra, Parthiv Patel, Deep das gupta , dinesh karthik this I am telling in between 1999-2006 even dravid was made to keep for 2-3 yrs in ODIs and in around 2005-6 dhoni caught the eye.. Indulo parthiv was pretty raw to start and was less on keeping skills, deep das gupta was terrible behind stumps others were ok.. DK was pretty talented with both gloves and bat infact he is more technically sound than MSD but lost out due to erratic performances. MSD caught the eye for his big hitting not much for keeping to start off.. Quote
Satakarni_bali Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 39 minutes ago, GullyBoy said: if u followed indian cricket in 90s and before dhoni.. indian batting was always 10 man team.. wk keeper was non existent.. mongia, saba karim, msk prasad ilanti bgrade keepers.. aa time lo dhoni ochadu.. hes not just keeper.. chala yrs wkts padina dhoni unnadu chuskuntadu ane feeling ochela chesadu.. so called selfboasting captains like langaly, dravid peekaleni WCs(t20, odi) formats techi pettadu.. ippudu he can retire or disappear no one cares.. but what he did has to be respected.. poyi poyi okka match hadavidi chesina teenager tho compare seyyadam endi silly kakapothe Gilchrist cache varaku keeper ante keeping e adoka specialist place batting cheste advantage anthe... It's Gilchrist who changed the dynamics for wk. Even now good teams prefer specialist keeper for tests but limited overs lo u can get away. 1 Quote
user789 Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Posted December 18, 2019 45 minutes ago, GullyBoy said: if u followed indian cricket in 90s and before dhoni.. indian batting was always 10 man team.. wk keeper was non existent.. mongia, saba karim, msk prasad ilanti bgrade keepers.. aa time lo dhoni ochadu.. hes not just keeper.. chala yrs wkts padina dhoni unnadu chuskuntadu ane feeling ochela chesadu.. so called selfboasting captains like langaly, dravid peekaleni WCs(t20, odi) formats techi pettadu.. ippudu he can retire or disappear no one cares.. but what he did has to be respected.. poyi poyi okka match hadavidi chesina teenager tho compare seyyadam endi silly kakapothe I;m only commenting on ppl who criticized him. He was nagging till he couldn't run or bat properly like Sachin. You should retire when you are done ... Quote
GullyBoy Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Satakarni_bali said: Gilchrist cache varaku keeper ante keeping e adoka specialist place batting cheste advantage anthe... It's Gilchrist who changed the dynamics for wk. Even now good teams prefer specialist keeper for tests but limited overs lo u can get away. I dont agree with this.. Quote
GullyBoy Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Kool_SRG said: nothing as such keeping lo mundu only keeping skills ki importance ichevaaru batting contribution was secondary once gilly came in to the picture scene changed they started looking for batting skills also such was his impact on the game, chala teams enthala ante batting baagundi just ok ok keepers (Batsmen who can keep) ni kuda tried a lot but all didn't succeed... Later players evolved like keepers also started taking batting seriously.. Nuvvu mongia , saba karim & MSK Prasad daggara aaagipoyaavu India itself under ganguly tried lots keepers like Sameer Dighe, Vijay Dahiya, Ajay Ratra, Parthiv Patel, Deep das gupta , dinesh karthik this I am telling in between 1999-2006 even dravid was made to keep for 2-3 yrs in ODIs and in around 2005-6 dhoni caught the eye.. Indulo parthiv was pretty raw to start and was less on keeping skills, deep das gupta was terrible behind stumps others were ok.. DK was pretty talented with both gloves and bat infact he is more technically sound than MSD but lost out due to erratic performances. MSD caught the eye for his big hitting not much for keeping to start off.. nuvvu mongia to DK.. eelandarini enakeskostunnav ante.. inka nenem seppalenu.. vallu keepers aina change ayyaru ante reason ee valla batting tailenders kante daridram ani.. MSD is smart keeper.. techinically technically.. ante result ki paniki rani technique waste.. he is unorthodox ade atani technique anta nenu.. Quote
GullyBoy Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, user789 said: I;m only commenting on ppl who criticized him. He was nagging till he couldn't run or bat properly like Sachin. You should retire when you are done ... ledante ganguly, sehwag ni peekesinattu peeki padestaru le .. Quote
Satakarni_bali Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, GullyBoy said: I dont agree with this.. Okay fine but which keeper won you matches and scared bowlers in early 90s and 80s Quote
GullyBoy Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, Satakarni_bali said: Okay fine but which keeper won you matches and scared bowlers in early 90s and 80s ade ga anedi.. india was 10 man team.. worst wk keepers.. literally space fillers laga.. aa stage ninchi oka wkt keeper as captain and batsman WC teeskochadu ante cricket fans andaru dhoni boot naakali.. Quote
Kool_SRG Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, GullyBoy said: nuvvu mongia to DK.. eelandarini enakeskostunnav ante.. inka nenem seppalenu.. vallu keepers aina change ayyaru ante reason ee valla batting tailenders kante daridram ani.. MSD is smart keeper.. techinically technically.. ante result ki paniki rani technique waste.. he is unorthodox ade atani technique anta nenu.. Tail enders kante daridram aah Mongia played opening batsmen for india tests for some time he was useful batsmen not a slam bang hitter... Since mid 90s taravaata lower order contribution was need to considered so that teams can get thru close games thats how game evolved. DK was very good and he too played as opener in many tests for India and had good record once his form started dipping a bit and injury dhoni came in to the scene at right moment and grabbed the chance. BTW You aren't naming a guy who was keeper and was impacting with his batting skills in mid -late 90s apart from Gilly.. Quote
Chinna84 Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 Arey Dhoni ki pant ki comparison endhi ra !! pant still needs to prove a lot - no doubt he has a great talent but just can’t compre to legends yet !! Quote
GullyBoy Posted December 18, 2019 Report Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Kool_SRG said: Tail enders kante daridram aah Mongia played opening batsmen for india tests for some time he was useful batsmen not a slam bang hitter... Since mid 90s taravaata lower order contribution was need to considered so that teams can get thru close games thats how game evolved. DK was very good and he too played as opener in many tests for India and had good record once his form started dipping a bit and injury dhoni came in to the scene at right moment and grabbed the chance. BTW You aren't naming a guy who was keeper and was impacting with his batting skills in mid -late 90s apart from Gilly.. I am not going to.. coz the discussion is about our legendary keeprs of 80s and 90s and an overaged overhyped keeper like dhoni.. Quote
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