tacobell fan Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, pottipotato said: you seem confused. you don't want one man thing. you don't want mass movements. you think population is a problem, when population growth has been steadily decreasing everywhere, even in India. Sanders is literally leading in all the polls, and you say that people have no time to sit and think abou their lives. so who's supporting Bernie according to you? only jobless jacks? why hasn't those people elected Bernie elected thus far? Why do he keep fighting again and again even though people don't elect him? I like Bernie, too but our personal interests won't make things happen just because your heart feels happy. Quote
Thokkalee Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Bernie gelichinaa kuda, Democrats cannot win the senate.. so, laws emi pass avvavu.. Middle class and working people who are getting their insurance through their employer are against Medicare for all.. because they don’t want to lose their Excellent subsidized insurance plans.. on top of it, taxes will go up by a lot for his plans like free education, free Medicare, other free plans etc.. no one wants to pay more taxes.. not the rich, not the poor and definitely not the middle class.. and many are of the opinion that trump controlled immigration better than any recent president.. that is a sensitive topic for many Americans.. Sanders will open the gates if he comes to power.. Dump thatha konchem noru adupuloo pettukuni, Twitter vadadam manesthe, thappakundaa malli gelusthaadu.. Quote
pottipotato Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, tacobell fan said: why hasn't those people elected Bernie elected thus far? Why do he keep fighting again and again even though people don't elect him? I like Bernie, too but our personal interests won't make things happen just because your heart feels happy. i thought we are talking about the current. should people have done something 10yrs back, if they express their wish to do it now? you are claiming that Bernie won't win. Fine. I don't know if he'll win or not. but he has tremendous support, and that means people do care, unlike what you claim. Quote
pottipotato Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thokkalee said: Bernie gelichinaa kuda, Democrats cannot win the senate.. so, laws emi pass avvavu.. Middle class and working people who are getting their insurance through their employer are against Medicare for all.. because they don’t want to lose their Excellent subsidized insurance plans.. on top of it, taxes will go up by a lot for his plans like free education, free Medicare, other free plans etc.. no one wants to pay more taxes.. not the rich, not the poor and definitely not the middle class.. and many are of the opinion that trump controlled immigration better than any recent president.. that is a sensitive topic for many Americans.. Sanders will open the gates if he comes to power.. Dump thatha konchem noru adupuloo pettukuni, Twitter vadadam manesthe, thappakundaa malli gelusthaadu.. you have no idea how well Sanders will control immigration. lol. He'll do it on behalf of the workers. just wait and watch. Sanders is not what the mainstream media will tell you. He's far too smart and calculating and a real politician. The first one after Bill Clinton to run for president. Trump is a moron. Quote
Thokkalee Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, pottipotato said: you have no idea how well Sanders will control immigration. lol. He'll do it on behalf of the workers. just wait and watch. Sanders is not what the mainstream media will tell you. He's far too smart and calculating and a real politician. The first one after Bill Clinton to run for president. Trump is a moron. Let’s see... If he tries to stop immigration at the border, same supporters will protest against him.. more immigration brings down the wages.. andukee Ikkada Americans ki wages peragadam ledu.. last 3-4 years lo bagane jobs perigayi.. demand valla wages kuda perigayi.. h1’s restrict chesaka ikkada Indians ki americans ki kuda salaries perigayi.. Quote
pottipotato Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Posted January 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Thokkalee said: Bernie gelichinaa kuda, Democrats cannot win the senate.. so, laws emi pass avvavu.. Middle class and working people who are getting their insurance through their employer are against Medicare for all.. because they don’t want to lose their Excellent subsidized insurance plans.. on top of it, taxes will go up by a lot for his plans like free education, free Medicare, other free plans etc.. no one wants to pay more taxes.. not the rich, not the poor and definitely not the middle class.. and many are of the opinion that trump controlled immigration better than any recent president.. that is a sensitive topic for many Americans.. Sanders will open the gates if he comes to power.. Dump thatha konchem noru adupuloo pettukuni, Twitter vadadam manesthe, thappakundaa malli gelusthaadu.. not many people have 'subsidized insurance plans'. even 60% of republicans prefer govt healthcare in all polls. Sanders will create a Canada like welfare system, that will also control immigration to protect local workers (just like Canada). dont think Sanders is a globalist. he's not. you have no other way than to pay more taxes. you want more taxes, or you want to live in a racist country. your choice. that is, if you have a vote as a minority. Quote
pottipotato Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Thokkalee said: Let’s see... If he tries to stop immigration at the border, same supporters will protest against him.. more immigration brings down the wages.. andukee Ikkada Americans ki wages peragadam ledu.. last 3-4 years lo bagane jobs perigayi.. demand valla wages kuda perigayi.. h1’s restrict chesaka ikkada Indians ki americans ki kuda salaries perigayi.. yes. he will stop immigration at the border. yes, same supporters will protest against him. but he's more likely to win the presidency than anyone, including Trump. Quote
pottipotato Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thokkalee said: Let’s see... If he tries to stop immigration at the border, same supporters will protest against him.. more immigration brings down the wages.. andukee Ikkada Americans ki wages peragadam ledu.. last 3-4 years lo bagane jobs perigayi.. demand valla wages kuda perigayi.. h1’s restrict chesaka ikkada Indians ki americans ki kuda salaries perigayi.. The biggest thing Sanders will do is, control corporate power. and pass healthcare bill, and make tuition free in state colleges. rest all is up in the air. Quote
pottipotato Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Posted January 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Thokkalee said: Let’s see... If he tries to stop immigration at the border, same supporters will protest against him.. more immigration brings down the wages.. andukee Ikkada Americans ki wages peragadam ledu.. last 3-4 years lo bagane jobs perigayi.. demand valla wages kuda perigayi.. h1’s restrict chesaka ikkada Indians ki americans ki kuda salaries perigayi.. He's literally campaigning saying that yes he'll increase taxes.. and yet he's leading in all polls. how do you think? he'll bitchslap Trump if comes to one-one contest. Trump is too dumb to be on the same stage with him. Quote
pottipotato Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Posted January 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Thokkalee said: Let’s see... If he tries to stop immigration at the border, same supporters will protest against him.. more immigration brings down the wages.. andukee Ikkada Americans ki wages peragadam ledu.. last 3-4 years lo bagane jobs perigayi.. demand valla wages kuda perigayi.. h1’s restrict chesaka ikkada Indians ki americans ki kuda salaries perigayi.. immigration restrict cheyyatam valla kaadhu perigindhi wages. lol. vaadu first emi peddaga restrict cheyyaledu. wage increase ki reason, financial, and environmental deregulation. as usual more money flowing from the poor to the rich. anthe Quote
lovemystate Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, pottipotato said: I've been in Chile recently. until 3 weeks back. I could notice the visceral hatred for their military among lay public. That is change. https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/latin/8475332/remembering-victor-jara-45-years-after-his-murder ictor Jara poses for a photo in Chile in 1973. Soldiers crushed his fingers to symbolically silence his guitar, and then shot him 44 times. They did not succeed in muting his music or his message. Victor Jara, was, in his words, a man "who will die singing the true truths. Quote
pottipotato Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Beardman said: The question is who will be the partici[pants in protests and who will be the spectators participants- poor, middle class spectators- rich, politicians. rich always try to game the system from the behind the system. but the system has become so complicated that it is not easy to game it anymore. Even with all the advanced data analytics. human mind, single or a hive mind, cannot comprehend the complexities of modern economic, political systems anymore. If more people rise up and start to challenge those in power by adopting their own systems. The system will collapse. again, Bernie is not that challenge. Bernie is just a politician who is gathering up people under an umbrella. real change comes when people start taking things into their own hands. Its more and more likely if technology is more accessible to everyone. Quote
pottipotato Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Beardman said: The question is who will be the partici[pants in protests and who will be the spectators participants- poor, middle class spectators- rich, politicians. like if people start making their own insulin. they start using crypto, instead of using it like an investment. these are dangerous things for those in power. Quote
Thokkalee Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 56 minutes ago, pottipotato said: He's literally campaigning saying that yes he'll increase taxes.. and yet he's leading in all polls. how do you think? he'll bitchslap Trump if comes to one-one contest. Trump is too dumb to be on the same stage with him. What polls? Those polls are among registered Democrats.. Not among all the voters across parties... and many of these are in the blue states.. do you know anyone who gave their opinion in a poll? The sample sizes are very very small in all these polls.. and they don’t reveal the sample size in any of these polls.. don’t trust the polls here in US.. you know what happened with Hillary polling % last time right?? She was polling at 80% and still lost the election by a big margin.. I doubt Trump will even participate in any debate this time.. Quote
pottipotato Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Thokkalee said: What polls? Those polls are among registered Democrats.. Not among all the voters across parties... and many of these are in the blue states.. do you know anyone who gave their opinion in a poll? The sample sizes are very very small in all these polls.. and they don’t reveal the sample size in any of these polls.. don’t trust the polls here in US.. you know what happened with Hillary polling % last time right?? She was polling at 80% and still lost the election by a big margin.. I doubt Trump will even participate in any debate this time.. hillary was not polling at 80%. polls were right last time too. just that a lot of people gave a bigger chance to Hillary. some state polls were wrong. on the whole polls were right. Quote
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