galiraju Posted February 14, 2020 Report Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, mirchi_bajji said: bernie gadi promises look like what our politicians do before elections. no college debt , universal health care , low prescription costs - ivanni asalu congress or senate oppukuntaya not really. Actually Universal healthcare can be done. I talked doctors here they like universal healthcare coz of the insurance companies; insurance companies decide the treatment now a days Quote
galiraju Posted February 14, 2020 Report Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, mirchi_bajji said: bernie gadi promises look like what our politicians do before elections. no college debt , universal health care , low prescription costs - ivanni asalu congress or senate oppukuntaya may be not all state schools; community colleges and teaching based undergrad institutions free chesthy chalu that would provide a huge relief Quote
DummyVariable Posted February 14, 2020 Report Posted February 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, galiraju said: Military Industrial Complex budget chusi cheppu unrealistic endo Bernie’s programs would cost 97.5 trillion.. the government surely doesn’t have room for that much considering the fact that it costs around 90 trillion to run the present set up. Quote
mirchi_bajji Posted February 14, 2020 Report Posted February 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, galiraju said: not really. Actually Universal healthcare can be done. I talked doctors here they like universal healthcare coz of the insurance companies; insurance companies decide the treatment now a days its not bout if it is doable. it is whether politicians will let it happen with all the lobbying Quote
galiraju Posted February 14, 2020 Report Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, DummyVariable said: Bernie’s programs would cost 97.5 trillion.. the government surely doesn’t have room for that much considering the fact that it costs around 90 trillion to run the present set up. i dont undertsand this logic. He said universal health care will be funded by our tax money (no private insurance and only health tax like in canada) and education programs from 1% tax on wall st, speculation and reducing military industrial funding. He is budgeting the already existing money Quote
galiraju Posted February 14, 2020 Report Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, mirchi_bajji said: its not bout if it is doable. it is whether politicians will let it happen with all the lobbying That is why he says not me US.....when bill goes out, people must come out of their comfort zone to fight for it become a law. otherwise nothing happens. Quote
DummyVariable Posted February 14, 2020 Report Posted February 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, galiraju said: i dont undertsand this logic. He said universal health care will be funded by our tax money (no private insurance and only health tax like in canada) and education programs from 1% tax on wall st, speculation and reducing military industrial funding. He is budgeting the already existing money It is not just the Medicare for all which on its own will cost 30-40 trillion kada baa.. 16.5 trillion on climate change plan and govt job for all Americans with 15$ per hr- this is another 30 trillion. Once you say that you are going to raise taxes (15.3% to 27.2%) to fund this, you are putting a lot of people off. Quote
Agnes Posted February 18, 2020 Report Posted February 18, 2020 On 2/14/2020 at 6:57 AM, DummyVariable said: It is not just the Medicare for all which on its own will cost 30-40 trillion kada baa.. 16.5 trillion on climate change plan and govt job for all Americans with 15$ per hr- this is another 30 trillion. Once you say that you are going to raise taxes (15.3% to 27.2%) to fund this, you are putting a lot of people off. duh!! its not the taxes that are the problem with Sanders. Its the movement that he'll back while he's in office. He'll support and pass legislations that will devastate US companies worth. Rich people will line up to beg him to raise their taxes at that point. lol. But to think of it, a lot of libertarians will vote for Trump, for the low taxes and lax regulations he'll bring, inspite of what he has turned the republican party into - a bunch of mouth breathing fascists. likewise, a lot of people like me (if I had a vote) will vote for Sanders, inspite of the potential damage his presidency can do to our net worth because we can't stand the fascists. Sanders is a decent and smart man. and if he refrains from pushing failed worker union model back into the system (most unions are anti immigrant), and focuses on pushing out conservative MMT clowns in his team - especially ones like stephanie kelton(of the Green New Deal), he should be fine. Sanders does have a lot of fascist supporters, but he himself is not a fascist or a racist. And that's saying a lot in the current political climate. Quote
Agnes Posted February 18, 2020 Report Posted February 18, 2020 On 2/14/2020 at 6:32 AM, DummyVariable said: Bernie’s programs would cost 97.5 trillion.. the government surely doesn’t have room for that much considering the fact that it costs around 90 trillion to run the present set up. spoken like a true conservative. None of these are a concern. The real concern is democratization of the workplace (a double edged sword, especially in the modern economy), of the political system. and expansion of govt regulations into areas it has not much expertise. Quote
Agnes Posted February 18, 2020 Report Posted February 18, 2020 Sanders is quite clearly the only decent person in this entire race. Hope he's elected. US needs the healing touch after 40yrs of corporate theft. Quote
siru Posted February 18, 2020 Report Posted February 18, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 6:32 PM, mirchi_bajji said: bernie gadi promises look like what our politicians do before elections. no college debt , universal health care , low prescription costs - ivanni asalu congress or senate oppukuntaya its how most developed countries are..except usa, most western countries have all the above u mentioned..akkada avvaga lenidi ikkada avvada? Quote
siru Posted February 18, 2020 Report Posted February 18, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 8:27 PM, DummyVariable said: It is not just the Medicare for all which on its own will cost 30-40 trillion kada baa.. 16.5 trillion on climate change plan and govt job for all Americans with 15$ per hr- this is another 30 trillion. Once you say that you are going to raise taxes (15.3% to 27.2%) to fund this, you are putting a lot of people off. he will tax the rich like they are supposed to be.. the tax breaks that trump gave are mostly benificail to corporations and super rich..common man ki vache extra pay check money is noting ..long run lo this increases the deficit. Fiscal conservatives ani chepukune gop, they always increase the deficit and leave the mess to Dem presidents..they clean the mess and gop president takes credit Quote
siru Posted February 18, 2020 Report Posted February 18, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 5:45 PM, DummyVariable said: Women like this are the reason why thaatha will win. trump gurinchi kuda ilane chepparu 2016 lo.. its safe to say 2020 is unpredictable Quote
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