3000 cases india licked aaaaa

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4 minutes ago, karthikn said:

Then check the graph of new york numbers 

Check Italy and Spain numbers, too with lockdown way ahead 

[Kool_SRG]

14 minutes ago, timmy said:

Ap 1 death case is from vijayawada antakadha 

Suleman ena he is return from Nizam-mudin event...

[tom bhayya]

6 minutes ago, tacobell fan said:

Italy lock down happened way back but the spread did not stop. NY lo shelter in place for name sake ledu but density is too much so as India.  

italy lockdown too late go check, hug a chineese ani extras chesaaru first 1 month 

[tacobell fan]

8 minutes ago, karthikn said:

Then check the graph of new york numbers 

FYI, look at the detailed  events from Italy. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Italy

 

 

 

 

 

[tacobell fan]

Just now, tom bhayya said:

italy lockdown too late go check, hug a chineese ani extras chesaaru first 1 month 

Check above post Anna

[tacobell fan]

Just now, tom bhayya said:

italy lockdown too late go check, hug a chineese ani extras chesaaru first 1 month 

Italy sudden jump because of testing and reporting. India lo same level of effort unda to test cases?

[VictoryTDP]

Summer vasthe Anni set avuthayi antunna experts

[Joker_007]

Turaks gallu already spreading start chesaru... Corona is a weapon sent by Allah to use in Jihad anta... Mullah gallu pracharam chestunnaru...

[tom bhayya]

2 minutes ago, tacobell fan said:

Check above post Anna

As Asia locked down, Europe looked on.

Once the severity of COVID-19 became clear, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore took rapid and uncompromising action. They now appear to have turned the tide.

 

It's only after the World Health Organization (WHO) declared Europe the epicentre of the pandemic that most countries locked down. Some still haven't.

 

She travelled to Milan and is now self-isolating in France. She's desperate to escape Europe.

She believes Europeans are still not taking the pandemic seriously enough, and that it's now safer in Asia - where the virus first emerged.

 

“I had so many interactions in Italy, in London, in France that made me really baffled. People out and about as if nothing is wrong,” she told Culture Clash.

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As a Hong Konger, I continue to be baffled by the public response in Europe. Though most are concerned, many are still acting like it's nbd. HK was in the news because of #COVIDー19 a month ago. There are travel advisories against HK. Peopled abroad asked me about it. 1/

 

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“I think Hong Kong is even safer than somewhere that doesn’t have the virus at all. Because we are prepared if the outbreak gets worse.

“We’ve faced epidemics like SARS, bird flu, swine flu. We’ve been through this before. So we have had this culture of being prepared".

Intensive care units in the North of Italy have been overwhelmedLaPresseClaudio Furlan

Much of Europe only took firm action once the continent had become the epicentre of the pandemic. Italy was the first to lockdown, but only after the virus had taken hold in the north of the country.

The deaths in Italy alone have now surpassed those recorded in China.

Even once lockdowns were in place across much of the EU, the UK hadn’t even ordered cafes, restaurants and pubs to close (they moved to do so on Friday evening). Instead, people there were asked to stay at home, with a significant number ignoring government advice.

Singapore, a nation which acted rapidly and uncompromisingly to the pandemic, accused countries like Britain and Switzerland of "abandoning any measure to contain or restrain the virus".

Many argue that a delayed and disjointed European response, coupled with cultural attitudes, helped the virus to take hold.

“In Europe people are more relaxed. It’s part of the culture to go out and have a drink. And I love that. There’s this defiant attitude,” Laurel told us.

“But unfortunately, in a pandemic situation, it’s not going to work."

“You can’t laugh in the face of a virus. You’re going to get it.”

[tacobell fan]

Just now, tom bhayya said:

Much of Europe only took firm action once the continent had become the epicentre of the pandemic.

Same problem everywhere, they are not realizing the impact upfront. Even before Italy, India had 4 cases but no one really knows the exact/approx no of cases.

[tom bhayya]

5 minutes ago, tacobell fan said:

Italy sudden jump because of testing and reporting. India lo same level of effort unda to test cases?

ROME — As Italy’s coronavirus infections ticked above 400 cases and deaths hit the double digits, the leader of the governing Democratic Party posted a picture of himself clinking glasses for “an aperitivo in Milan,” urging people “not to change our habits.”

That was on Feb. 27. Not 10 days later, as the toll hit 5,883 infections and 233 dead, the party boss, Nicola Zingaretti, posted a new video, this time informing Italy that he, too, had the virus.

Italy now has more than 53,000 recorded infections and more than 4,800 dead, and the rate of increase keeps growing, with more than half the cases and fatalities coming in the past week. On Saturday, officials reported 793 additional deaths, by far the largest single-day increase so far. Italy has surpassed China as the country with the highest death toll, becoming the epicenter of a shifting pandemic.

The government has sent in the army to enforce the lockdown in Lombardy, the northern region at the center of the outbreak, where bodies have piled up in churches. On Friday night, the authorities tightened the nationwide lockdown, closing parks, banning outdoor activities including walking or jogging far from home.

 

On Saturday night, Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte announced another drastic step in response to what he called the country’s most difficult crisis since the Second World War: Italy will close its factories and all production that is not absolutely essential, an enormous economic sacrifice intended to contain the virus and protect lives.

“The state is here,” he said in an effort to reassure the public.

But the tragedy of Italy now stands as a warning to its European neighbors and the United States, where the virus is coming with equal velocity. If Italy’s experience shows anything, it is that measures to isolate affected areas and limit the movement of the broader population need to be taken early, put in place with absolute clarity, then strictly enforced.

 

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Despite now having some of the toughest measures in the world, Italian authorities fumbled many of those steps early in the contagion — when it most mattered as they sought to preserve basic civil liberties as well as the economy.

Italy’s piecemeal attempts to cut it off — isolating towns first, then regions, then shutting down the country in an intentionally porous lockdown — always lagged behind the virus’s lethal trajectory.

 

 

 

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The usually bustling Navigli area in Milan was almost empty during the lockdown this month.Credit...Alessandro Grassani for The New York Times

“Now we are running after it,” said Sandra Zampa, the under secretary at the Ministry of Health, who said Italy did the best it could given the information it had. “We closed gradually, as Europe is doing. France, Spain, Germany, the U.S. are doing the same. Every day you close a bit, you give up on a bit of normal life. Because the virus does not allow normal life.”

 

Some officials gave in to magical thinking, reluctant to make painful decisions sooner. All the while, the virus fed on that complacency.

Governments beyond Italy are now in danger of following the same path, repeating familiar mistakes and inviting similar calamity. And unlike Italy, which navigated uncharted territory for a Western democracy, other governments have less room for excuses.

Italian officials, for their part, have defended their response, emphasizing that the crisis is unprecedented in modern times. They assert that the government responded with speed and competence, immediately acting on the advice of its scientists and moving more swiftly on drastic, economically devastating measures than their European counterparts.

But tracing the record of their actions shows missed opportunities and critical missteps.

In the critical early days of the outbreak, Mr. Conte and other top officials sought to down play the threat, creating confusion and a false sense of security that allowed the virus to spread.

They blamed Italy’s high number of infections on aggressive testing of people without symptoms in the north, which they argued only created hysteria and tarnished the country’s image abroad.

 

 

 

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At Palazzo Marino, headquarters of the municipality of Milan, chairs were placed outdoors and at a safe distance ahead of a meeting.Credit...Alessandro Grassani for The New York Times

 

Even once the Italian government considered a universal lockdown necessary to defeat the virus, it failed to communicate the threat powerfully enough to persuade Italians to abide by the rules, which seemed riddled with loopholes.

“It is not easy in a liberal democracy,” said Walter Ricciardi, a World Health Organization board member and a top adviser to the health ministry, who argued that the Italian government acted on the scientific evidence made available to it.

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He said the Italian government had moved at a much faster clip, and took the threat much more seriously, than its European neighbors or the United States.

Still, he acknowledged that the health minister had struggled to persuade his government colleagues to move more quickly and that the difficulties of navigating Italy’s division of powers between Rome and the regions resulted in a fragmented chain of command and inconsistent messages.

“In times of war, like an epidemic,” that system presented grave problems, he said, adding that it perhaps delayed the imposing of restrictive measures.

“I would have done them 10 days before, that is the only difference.”

It Could Never Happen Here

For the coronavirus, 10 days can be a lifetime.

On Jan. 21, as top Chinese officials warned that those hiding virus cases “will be nailed on the pillar of shame for eternity,” Italy’s culture and tourism minister hosted a Chinese delegation for a concert at the National Academy of Santa Cecilia to inaugurate the year of Italy-China Culture and Tourism.

 

Michele Geraci, Italy’s former under secretary in the economic development ministry and a booster of closer relations with China, had a drink with other politicians but looked around uneasily.

“Are we sure we want to do this?” he said he asked them. “Should we be here today?”

With the benefit of hindsight, Italian officials say certainly not.

 

 

 

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In San Fiorano, one of the original ‘red zone’ towns that were locked down, residents watched as Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte of Italy announced travel restrictions on the entire country.Credit...Marzio Toniolo, via Reuters

Ms. Zampa, the health ministry under secretary, said in retrospect she would have closed everything immediately. But in real time, it wasn’t that clear.

Politicians across the spectrum worried about the economy and feeding the country, and found it difficult to accept their impotence in the face of the virus.

Most importantly, Italy looked at the example of China, Ms. Zampa said, not as a practical warning, but as a “science fiction movie that had nothing to do with us.” And when the virus exploded, Europe, she said, “looked at us the same way we looked at China.”

But already in January, some officials on the right were urging Mr. Conte, their former ally and now political enemy, to quarantine schoolchildren in the northern regions who were returning from holidays in China, a measure aimed at protecting schools. Many of those children were from Chinese immigrant families.

 

Many liberals criticized the proposal as populist fear-mongering. Mr. Conte declined the proposal and responded that the northern governors should trust the judgment of education and health authorities who, he said, had proposed no such thing.

But Mr. Conte also demonstrated that he was taking the threat of contagion seriously. On Jan. 30, he blocked all flights in and out of China.

“We are the first country in Europe to adopt such a precautionary measure,” he said.

Over the next month, Italy responded swiftly to coronavirus scares. Two sick Chinese tourists and an Italian returning from China received care from a prominent infectious disease hospital in Rome. A false alarm led authorities to briefly confine passengers on a cruise ship docked outside of Rome.

‘Patient One,’ Super-spreader

When a 38-year-old man went to the emergency room at a hospital in Codogno, a small town in the Lodi province of Lombardy, with severe flu symptoms on Feb. 18, the case did not set off alarms.

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The patient declined to be hospitalized and went home. He got sicker and returned to the hospital a few hours later and was admitted to a general medicine ward. On Feb. 20, he went into intensive care, where he tested positive for the virus.

The man, who became known as Patient One, had had a busy month. He attended at least three dinners, played soccer and ran with a team, all apparently while contagious and without heavy symptoms.

 

 

 

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New beds arriving last month at a hospital in Codogno, near Lodi in Northern Italy.Credit...Luca Bruno/Associated Press

 

Mr. Ricciardi said Italy had the bad luck of having a super spreader in a densely populated and dynamic area who went to the hospital not once, but twice, infecting hundreds of people, including doctors and nurses.

“He was incredibly active,” Mr. Ricciardi said.

But he also had not had any direct contacts with China, and experts suspect he contracted the virus from another European, meaning Italy did not have an identifiable patient zero or a traceable source of contagion that could help it contain the virus.

The virus had already been active in Italy for weeks by that time, experts now say, passed by people without symptoms and often mistaken for a flu. It spread around Lombardy, the Italian region that has by far the most trade with China and the home of Milan, the country’s most culturally vibrant and business-centered city.

“Who we call ‘Patient One’ was probably ‘Patient 200,’ ” said Fabrizio Pregliasco, an epidemiologist.

On Sunday, Feb. 23, the number of infections clicked past 130 and Italy sealed off 11 towns with police and military checkpoints. The last days of Venice Carnival were canceled. The Lombardy region closed its schools, museums and movie theaters. The Milanese made a run on the supermarkets.

 

 

 

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Disinfecting around the central train station in Milan last week.Credit...Alessandro Grassani for The New York Times

But while Mr. Conte again commended Italy for its firm hand, he also sought to downplay the contagion, attributing the high numbers of infected to Lombardy’s overzealous testing.

 

“We have been the first ones with the most rigorous and accurate controls,” he said on television, adding that more people in Italy appeared infected because “we did more tests.”

The next day, as infections surpassed 200, seven people died and the stock market plunged, Mr. Conte and his health aides doubled down.

He blamed the Codogno hospital for the spread, saying it had handled things in “a not-completely-proper way” and argued that Lombardy and Veneto, another northern region, were inflating the severity of the problem by diverging from global guidelines and testing people without symptoms.

As Lombardy officials scrambled to free up hospital beds, and the number of infected people rose to 309 with 11 dead, Mr. Conte said on Feb. 25 that “Italy is a safe country and probably safer than many others.”

On Friday, Mr. Conte’s office offered an interview on the condition that he could answer questions in writing. When sent questions, including those about his past statements, he declined to respond.

Mixed Messages Sow Confusion

Reassurances from leaders confused the Italian population.

On Feb. 27, Mr. Zingaretti posted his aperitivo picture. That same day, the country’s foreign minister, Luigi Di Maio, the former leader of one of the governing parties, the Five Star Movement, held a news conference in Rome.

“In Italy, we went from the risk of an epidemic to an infodemic,” Mr. Di Maio said, disparaging media coverage that highlighted the threat of the contagion, and adding that only “0.089 percent” of the Italian population was quarantined.

 

In Milan, only miles from the center of the outbreak, the mayor, Beppe Sala, publicized a ‘‘Milan Doesn’t Stop’’ campaign, and the Duomo, the city’s landmark cathedral that is a draw for tourists, reopened. People went out.

[tom bhayya]

Just now, tacobell fan said:

Same problem everywhere, they are not realizing the impact upfront. Even before Italy, India had 4 cases but no one really knows the exact/approx no of cases.

take example of WA in US , USA lo first akkadaey start ayyindhi immediately they locked down and now see their curve. 

[tacobell fan]

2 minutes ago, tom bhayya said:

take example of WA in US , USA lo first akkadaey start ayyindhi immediately they locked down and now see their curve. 

Compare population, it is no where closer, so the amount of spread can't be equivalent to NY. It's easy to pick.

[tacobell fan]

2 minutes ago, tom bhayya said:

take example of WA in US , USA lo first akkadaey start ayyindhi immediately they locked down and now see their curve. 

CA also locked down initially but it's 10K+ already from 400. 

[tom bhayya]

2 hours ago, tacobell fan said:

CA also locked down initially but it's 10K+ already from 400. 

10 k ekkada 100k ekkada bro?