HALAL IS HARĀM: LET’S DECIDE INDIA!

[Mirage]

Article from Sirf News

In a country where Islamic food certification does not invite legal actions against 'communalism', why is it not okay for non-Muslims to specify that their products are not halal?

 

Chennai bakery owner Prasanth arrested. For putting out an advertisement where he specifies that his products are “made by Jains, no Muslim staff”. So what’s the problem? We are a country that is slowly being robbed by halalonomics today. Where unless you specify that a particular product is made according to strict Muslim religious diktats, it is harām to consume or use. Where every product needs a halal certificate if it wants to survive in the market. If not, you can kiss it’s popularity goodbye. Then why is it not okay for non-Muslims to specify that their products are not halal? Does that take away from the Muslims willingness to buy such products? Especially because it’s not as if Jains do not buy or consume halal-stamped products. They do.

Brings to mind a controversy stirring in Australia over the last few days. Amina Elshafei, a devout Muslim and contestant on MasterChef Australia ‘Back to Win’ series 2020, was on Thursday last’s episode, unable to taste her beef Bulgogi because the meat was not halal. She requested her fellow contestant to taste and check for salt, which Emelia Jackson did with honest feedback. Amina eventually went on to win the challenge. To any rational mind, that should have been it. Daughter of a Korean mother and an Egyptian father, a hijab-clad woman choosing not to consume products which are not conforming to her religions diktats. No one kicks up a fuss when religious, non-beef eating Hindus cook alongside contestants cooking beef dishes in the same competition.

But no, social media has risen up in protest at the injustice done. The producers are being slammed for not making available halal meat especially for her. Really, where is this world going? Why is not anyone asking Amina why she didn’t choose to rely on her instinct and send out the food? Why did she not keep her personal beliefs at home and simply taste it- it’s not as if one was making a meal of it. Or best, simply don’t cook meat that is not halal. Why spell it out on national tv and make a big deal of it? Remember that this a contest- you deal with what you’re given, simply play by the rules.

Halal, it is clearly stated, can be performed only by Muslims. From slaughtering to labelling, non-Muslims are not allowed to be involved in the process. Is this not akin to untouchability that Hinduism has been so derided for since time immemorial? Does this point not strike anyone?

There are scores of non-Muslims in our country today for whom halal branded products are harām − not acceptable. Yet, are we given that choice? Is this not a clear case of discrimination, going against the fundamental right of equality? If they can stamp something halal, why can we not say that something is not halal?

[Mirage]

When we travel, when we eat at hotels, when we shop at supermarkets- why do we not have the choice to demand non-halal products? The private sector should have FIRs filed against them just as have been filed against Prasanth for forcing us to buy halal branded products which certification clearly states that non-Muslims are not allowed in the production. Just as we should collectively file writs against such government carriers and hotels like ITDC for infringement of our right to equality and right to religious freedom.

According to Islamic law, all vegetarian foods are by default halal. Unless they contain ingredients that may make it harām. Hence these days, we see many processed vegetarian foods also being labelled halal. So essentially, we Hindus, in our own country, need certification from Islamic organisations that our food is acceptable? So now we pay people as alien to our culture as night is from the day, to eat food that is intrinsic to our own?

Why should we be forced to use products that while safeguarding the rigidity of Islam, go against the very nature of Hinduism? Why should we pay to benefit economic well-being and religious beliefs of the community which at large is well-known for harming the rights, economic or otherwise, of ours?

Demand that Prasanth be freed. If halal firms will employ only Muslims and proudly endorse its products as such, he too has the right to advertise that he chooses to employ Jains for his food products and that he chooses not to employ Muslims. It’s the basics of equality… if Muslims can do it, why not Jains? India is a democratic country after all.

Indians, especially non-Muslims, must start a nationwide debate to ban personal use and consumption of all products labelled as halal, and pledge to receive non-halal products that are in line with our beliefs. We must protest this forced dictum of Islamic dominance on our system as harām and strengthen our collective conscience. That, in effect, is the only thing today, short of complete defiance, that will unify us as a people, as a society.

[kothavani]

So my understanding chinna ga unapdu is halal means mercy killing that means the way they cut the animal,  nerve it has no pain or little pain is what I heard not sure they can maintain that standards for large scale 

[Mirage]

4 minutes ago, kothavani said:

So my understanding chinna ga unapdu is halal means mercy killing that means the way they cut the animal,  nerve it has no pain or little pain is what I heard not sure they can maintain that standards for large scale 

The labels of Halal and Haram... extends to everything. It's a religious lifestyle. Different goods and services have to meet different criteria.

 

Definition of Halal for different good and services:

Meat:

- animal slaughtered by cutting jugular vein

- animal aligned to kabah while the slaughter is carried out

- islamic prayers chanted during the slaughter 

- slaughtered by a devout male muslim

Other goods and services include pretty much everything lipsticks, clothes, tour packages... :

A certificate issued by the Halal authority certifying that the products are halal compliant. A form of taxation on all the products. And its current turnover is 2.5 trillion dollars.

[Mirage]

18 minutes ago, kothavani said:

So my understanding chinna ga unapdu is halal means mercy killing that means the way they cut the animal,  nerve it has no pain or little pain is what I heard not sure they can maintain that standards for large scale 

Also it is not mercy killing per se because all the animals are not stunned before slaughter. There is immense pain to that non-stunned animal since the animal suffers when a vein (jugular) is cut and the blood is allowed to drain of its system. Again, it's up to them how they want to do it.. but just clarifying. 

[xano917]

18 minutes ago, kothavani said:

So my understanding chinna ga unapdu is halal means mercy killing that means the way they cut the animal,  nerve it has no pain or little pain is what I heard not sure they can maintain that standards for large scale 

halal also means not killing a sick or diseased animal and giving water  (food rarely) before killing the animal.

halal pain logic is not convincing to me but, I like the part where it says not to kill and eat a diseased animal, and provide water to animal before cutting.

many chicken farms sell dead chicken while in transport for dead seep rates. That meat cannot be certified as halal.

 

 

[Mirage]

@odhu_le_macha 

[Vaampire]

Halal meat lo blood undakoodadhu. Neck cut chesaka blood antha drain ayyevaraku unchutharu. Kaani now a days, halal meat lo kooda blood untundi. Clean chesetappudu choosthunna. 

I think the term halal is overrated.

Also another observation. India lo konni places lo functions ki goats ni cut cheyyadaniki Muslims ney pilustharu. Hyd sorroundings loo. 

[Vaampire]

but personally I dint like the board. He could have said something like "100% made by jains"

 

Inko religion ni mention cheyyalsina avasaram ledhu

[Mirage]

7 minutes ago, Vaampire said:

but personally I dint like the board. He could have said something like "100% made by jains"

 

Inko religion ni mention cheyyalsina avasaram ledhu

Maybe he wants to make it explicit. In social media there were videos circulating of bakeries with peaceful staff licking the bread.. Maybe his business took a hit because of all this .. we never know. But what is the need to arrest him? 

[odhu_le_macha]

halal overrated concept and there is no scientific proof..Arrest cheyadam endi vayya...freedom of religion ane concept only muslims ke unda India lo

[odhu_le_macha]

By Halal process , it is made sure that the blood drains out completely . The scientific reason is that blood contains lot of impurities and also foreign blood is harmful to our body , it should be made within the body . That’s why we match blood group while donation because foreign blood is not acceptable .

Now , it is a painful method . ( Many researches show controversial results but it is still not 100% proved that it is painless ). So why this method is prevailing ?

We should seek reasons why any religion directed something , the underlying principle of it , not just blindly attached what has said but why it has been said .

At that time , there were no proper methods / machines to suck blood completely out of animal body so they followed slitting throat this way . Now with the advancement of technologies , we should work towards reducing the animal pain . We should develop machines / methods that remove blood completely out of animal and give it less painful death .

[Vaampire]

3 hours ago, Mirage said:

Maybe he wants to make it explicit. In social media there were videos circulating of bakeries with peaceful staff licking the bread.. Maybe his business took a hit because of all this .. we never know. But what is the need to arrest him? 

Mana sickular India telisindey gaa. I don't support arresting him.  100% peaful region, no Hindus touched ani board pedithey ey naa ko gaadu adagadu

[odhu_le_macha]

[odhu_le_macha]