This is what the Dems stand for

[Catalpha]

Just now, chanchala said:

Its a negotiation. may be you are too precious to indulge in negotiation, but that's what people/groups do. finally they will settle on a figure close to what you say. that's how politics works.

In California, unemployment benefits from state and federal together exceeds minimum wage, thanks to the Democratic Government. 

[chanchala]

Just now, Catalpha said:

Like I said, as long as freebies don't make people lazy. 

yeah, even if having to work kills them, they should do it. 

thankfully we are not living in libertarian paradise Somalia.

[chanchala]

1 minute ago, Catalpha said:

In California, unemployment benefits from state and federal together exceeds minimum wage, thanks to the Democratic Government. 

that's how california wants it to be. it has no influence on how much federal dollars are spent on california..

it has worked for them fabulously well for so long, hasn't it? has there been a more successful state than california?

[chanchala]

2 minutes ago, Catalpha said:

In California, unemployment benefits from state and federal together exceeds minimum wage, thanks to the Democratic Government. 

I see you are not results based, but a dogged ideological nutjob.

california is an authoritarian nanny state, but its still the number 1 state in US, isn't it?

[VenkyBabu]

I support dems ... dems gelavadam charithraka avasaram

[Catalpha]

1 minute ago, chanchala said:

that's how california wants it to be. it has no influence on how much federal dollars are spent on california..

it has worked for them fabulously well for so long, hasn't it? has there been a more successful state than california?

It's a cycle, Republicans are good for the economy, bad for diversity. California didn't get where it is without voting red until the 90s. 

[Catalpha]

4 minutes ago, chanchala said:

I see you are not results based, but a dogged ideological nutjob.

california is an authoritarian nanny state, but its still the number 1 state in US, isn't it?

California is also the most diverse, that influences political decisions. The most recent AB5 rule against Uber and Lyft is retrogressive. Doesn't mean California is business friendly, does it? 

[chanchala]

Just now, Catalpha said:

It's a cycle, Republicans are good for the economy, bad for diversity. California didn't get where it is without voting red until the 90s. 

Arnold was governor until 2011... majority of the debt was piled up during his regime. The current regime is trying to cut corners to balance the budget.

[chanchala]

5 minutes ago, Catalpha said:

California is also the most diverse, that influences political decisions. The most recent AB5 rule against Uber and Lyft is retrogressive. Doesn't mean California is business friendly, does it? 

It means California doesn't need Uber and Lyft type companies. simple.

a state can't be 'business friendly' at the expense of the people it serves.

[bhaigan]

American billionaires got $434 billion richer during the pandemic

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/21/american-billionaires-got-434-billion-richer-during-the-pandemic.html

[Catalpha]

1 minute ago, chanchala said:

Arnold was governor until 2011... majority of the debt was piled up during his regime. The current regime is trying to cut corners to balance the budget.

Like I said California voted red until the 90s all the while when the Silicon Valley came into existence. As the diversity increases, social issues precede fiscal issues in voting process. 

[Milehigh]

now all the freaking sun shine Boys are moving to atl, teaxas and making those states fit for nothing. Just an example of another Venezuela in the making

[Catalpha]

4 minutes ago, chanchala said:

It means California doesn't need Uber and Lyft type companies. simple.

a state can't be 'business friendly' at the expense of the people it serves.

When companies started in the Bay area, people voted red, it was business friendly. You're seeing the fruits of opening up the economy in the 70s and 80s. California didn't get here by giving out freebies. 

[chanchala]

Just now, Catalpha said:

Like I said California voted red until the 90s all the while when the Silicon Valley came into existence. As the diversity increases, social issues precede fiscal issues in voting process. 

California was always diverse. Even republicans in California are socially liberal for the most part (racists are exempt).

California was always business friendly and are smart about what businesses they want to encourage.

you want them to give breaks to coffee shops and bodyshoppers like Uber,  They prefer Intel, Google, and probably the next life sciences unicorn company, and the next quantum tech company.

california is not for small businesses.. It hasnt been so for a few decades.Its the choice they made.

[Milehigh]

Yeah but California, Illinois and New York at certain point have to get bailed out by the fed in the coming 10 years, because of the deals made by Jerry brown, Gavin newsome, Cuomo, with the unions on the pensions. Those states are almost running dry and that is the reason they are trying to tax more. That is what you get when u are run by liberals