Somedude Posted November 2, 2020 Report Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, RSUCHOU said: antha childhood nunchi lands unte, 2014 mundari asset declaration affidavit lo undali kadha. From whatever I saw in Jagan's complaint, I did not see any in Ramana sir's disclosed assets. Ilanti insider information, is wealth as they say. I know a lot of judges who are corrupted to the core. Vallakocche jeetalaki, valla life style ki asalu ponthana undadu. A friend of mine who is fighting a Divorce case was told by the Judge that if they give him 15 Lakhs, he can rule in their favour. So, ilantivi common ee. Post the Jagga's complaint where he accuses Raman owning those assets? AFAIK, it was his daughters who bought outside the capital region after the capital announcement in the assembly. It was 60 KM outside capital and it was after capital announcement and can't be prooved as inside trading. Even if they bought it before, it could be considered as speculative trading unless the Jagga Govt proves that there was information passed over from earlier Govt to his daughters. Jaggas is in deep $hit and he is throwing that $hit on others to prove that everyone is like him. Quote
Somedude Posted November 2, 2020 Report Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Boomer said: No one can stop him becoming CJI, as far I know, BJP central ministers are all favour of him... and in delhi journalist circles lo kuda adhe telling RRR told? Quote
Boomer Posted November 2, 2020 Report Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Somedude said: RRR told? No a journalist frnd in Tv9 Quote
kidney Posted November 2, 2020 Report Posted November 2, 2020 37 minutes ago, Boomer said: A meesam thippevodu cbn a?, oka video untadhi vote for note case time a character voice lo cbn voice added, dorikithe estha, highlight adhi matram meesam thippevaddu Bod! kaka.. while Chalman, amir (Baboru, Jalaga trying to impress Bodi) Robert Couple vallu public.. Baboru Jalaga pulling their Shirt Paresh r@wal similar to few AP Fud Crt chefs - Uncle Koun?? - evaru genuine or evaru influenced theliyatlae Quote
Pappu_Packitmaar Posted November 2, 2020 Report Posted November 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Somedude said: Post the Jagga's complaint where he accuses Raman owning those assets? AFAIK, it was his daughters who bought outside the capital region after the capital announcement in the assembly. It was 60 KM outside capital and it was after capital announcement and can't be prooved as inside trading. Even if they bought it before, it could be considered as speculative trading unless the Jagga Govt proves that there was information passed over from earlier Govt to his daughters. Jaggas is in deep $hit and he is throwing that $hit on others to prove that everyone is like him. Evadra niku visa ichindi ? Quote
Boomer Posted November 2, 2020 Report Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, kidney said: meesam thippevaddu Bod! kaka.. while Chalman, amir (Baboru, Jalaga trying to impress Bodi) Robert Couple vallu public.. Baboru Jalaga pulling their Shirt Paresh r@wal similar to AP Fud Crt - Uncle Koun?? - evaru genuine or evaru influenced theliyatlae Quote
RSUCHOU Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Somedude said: Post the Jagga's complaint where he accuses Raman owning those assets? AFAIK, it was his daughters who bought outside the capital region after the capital announcement in the assembly. It was 60 KM outside capital and it was after capital announcement and can't be prooved as inside trading. Even if they bought it before, it could be considered as speculative trading unless the Jagga Govt proves that there was information passed over from earlier Govt to his daughters. Jaggas is in deep $hit and he is throwing that $hit on others to prove that everyone is like him. Possibly. The same can be said about Jagan as well right. It is close to 10 years now and a single allegation was proved in the court. That did not deter us from calling him a fraudster. Law/justice would take it's own due course. Btw, I was answering to someone else's point about the land being in family hold since generations. That could not be correct as it did not show up in the disclosures. Also, someone brought some land before the Capital was announced and sold it at the same price even after the announcement when the prices sky rocketed. That to me indicates that something did happen. Jagan is not in any more deep than he was earlier. And the gag orders on media and stopping investigation in cases? That is deep . Judiciary should be extra cautious in the kind of messages it is passing. Quote
Somedude Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 9 hours ago, RSUCHOU said: Possibly. The same can be said about Jagan as well right. It is close to 10 years now and a single allegation was proved in the court. That did not deter us from calling him a fraudster. Law/justice would take it's own due course. Btw, I was answering to someone else's point about the land being in family hold since generations. That could not be correct as it did not show up in the disclosures. Also, someone brought some land before the Capital was announced and sold it at the same price even after the announcement when the prices sky rocketed. That to me indicates that something did happen. Jagan is not in any more deep than he was earlier. And the gag orders on media and stopping investigation in cases? That is deep . Judiciary should be extra cautious in the kind of messages it is passing. Are you @bhaigan ? Quote
RSUCHOU Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Somedude said: Are you @bhaigan ? I don't follow. If you are asking me if I am someone else from this forum, the answer is no. Should everyone that put's forth a point against your conviction be someone else? 1 Quote
Somedude Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 19 hours ago, RSUCHOU said: I don't follow. If you are asking me if I am someone else from this forum, the answer is no. Should everyone that put's forth a point against your conviction be someone else? Did you read Jaggas cases? You are comparing some normal purchase of land with extreme financial scams. Quote
RSUCHOU Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Somedude said: Did you read Jaggas cases? You are comparing some normal purchase of land with extreme financial scams. Normal purchase of land? Official misuse of power/status quo- This is the same complaint in both the cases. Why bring in the magnitude? Whether you murder 1 person or 100 people, you will still be a murderer right? Both are fraud cases according to you. Quote
Somedude Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, RSUCHOU said: Normal purchase of land? Official misuse of power/status quo- This is the same complaint in both the cases. Why bring in the magnitude? Whether you murder 1 person or 100 people, you will still be a murderer right? Both are fraud cases according to you. Misuse of power? Post some information related to misuse of of power? His daughter who are already majors and married bought outside the capital and after capital was announced. How is that considered as misuser of power? Quote
RSUCHOU Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, Somedude said: Misuse of power? Post some information related to misuse of of power? His daughter who are already majors and married bought outside the capital and after capital was announced. How is that considered as misuser of power? Same way Jagan who was a major could misuse his father's power? Quote
Somedude Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, RSUCHOU said: Same way Jagan who was a major could misuse his father's power? Lol @. There is clear information about the funds going into Barati cements, Jagati publications, Sandur power and many other suitcase companies and in return the investors have got benfits. That can easily establish quid pro quo primafacie. Where is the information in case of Ramana daughters buying the land. In Jagan's cases, YSR had the power (offocially) to give benfits to the investors. Ramana being in judiciery, do you think he has offocial power to sanction something to buy. How is the misuse of power established from the power he doesn't have? Quote
RSUCHOU Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Somedude said: Lol @. There is clear information about the funds going into Barati cements, Jagati publications, Sandur power and many other suitcase companies and in return the investors have got benfits. That can easily establish quid pro quo primafacie. Where is the information in case of Ramana daughters buying the land. In Jagan's cases, YSR had the power (offocially) to give benfits to the investors. Ramana being in judiciery, do you think he has offocial power to sanction something to buy. How is the misuse of power established from the power he doesn't have? Quid pro quo is defined as a favour or advantage granted in return for something. If that is what you mean, then the culprit here would be YSR and his cabinet, not Jagan. Jagan did not hold a constitutional or political post during the time of these deals. So, how is he liable? It is the same argument against Ramana's daughters. They benefited from the position their dad holds. The accusation is that Ramana colluded with CBN who gave him the insider information in return. If people did favours to Jagan in lieu of the favours they got from YSR and it is wrong, why would you not rate the Ramana case in the same way? Is it because you are sympathetic to Ramana & CBN? The only cases that might stick on Jagan, if at all are the ED cases for money laundering. The maximum anyone has been punished with is a monetary fine. The total number of convictions under PMLA until January 2020 is 14. Did you know that? And, the maximum term is 7 years. No one has been given a jail sentence so far. Given that all the ministers and government officials are exonerated from the CBI cases and ED cases are filed based on CBI cases, do you think Jagan would be proven Guilty? If you believe yes, Ramana also would be proven guilty. Quote
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