Toyota Abba..... Tesla Debba...----- Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2021 debut

[k2s]

3 hours ago, Spartan said:

@macha  @psycopk @Vaampire @k2s

Next all electric vehicles.. 

[narsy]

4 minutes ago, yemdoing said:

This is what surprises me a lot... telsa cars have been in market for many years. yet there is no challenger for them.

eventhough telsa released so many patents to general public.

is telsa so advanced that other industries finding it so hard to crack it ?

most dont give a fcuk about 1% of the auto market. Tesla is talking big, and it won't be the tech advantage that'll help them keep their lead. companies can get upto speed pretty fast, or can get suppliers that do it for them.

Tesla needs business innovation. selling cars online is not it. something even bigger, like google adwords. Tesla needs to find it fast because its way overpriced. 

but then almost all companies are overpriced these days. like Thel said, Musk is a master salesman. Tesla is lucky to have this guy as their CEO. He can pretend to be both engineer and the inventor and a polymath. The guy is amazing.

[Picheshwar]

[Ryzen_renoir]

18 minutes ago, yemdoing said:

This is what surprises me a lot... telsa cars have been in market for many years. yet there is no challenger for them.

eventhough telsa released so many patents to general public.

is telsa so advanced that other industries finding it so hard to crack it ?

Teslas are slightly more efficient than others with same motors and battery due to software optimization . 

Also the Tesla patents are only released to other companies only if they reciprocate , no manufacturer will do that

[yemdoing]

1 minute ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Teslas are slightly more efficient than others with same motors and battery due to software optimization . 

Also the Tesla patents are only released to other companies only if they reciprocate , no manufacturer will do that

softwarre optimization vere motor companies chetha kaledu antaav anthey na ?

 

[yemdoing]

5 minutes ago, Picheshwar said:

post her channel link man... 

[kittaya]

2 hours ago, macha said:

Reaching fast in terms of concept and graphics... mass production and vertical integration lo Tesla is atleast 5-7 years ahead ... let’s see once they can produce by the time they are ready to production Tesla will come up with more efficient way than 4680...

its all about investing money 

[dasara_bullodu1]

3 hours ago, Spartan said:

Japan's government to join forces with industry to supercharge development

Toyota Motor President Akio Toyoda speaks in front of an image of a concept car during the North American International Auto Show in Detroit.   © Reuters

Nikkei staff writersDecember 10, 2020 07:29 JST

 

TOKYO -- A trip of 500 km on one charge. A recharge from zero to full in 10 minutes. All with minimal safety concerns. The solid-state battery being introduced by Toyota promises to be a game changer not just for electric vehicles but for an entire industry.

The technology is a potential cure-all for the drawbacks facing electric vehicles that run on conventional lithium-ion batteries, including the relatively short distance traveled on a single charge as well as charging times. Toyota plans to be the first company to sell an electric vehicle equipped with a solid-state battery in the early 2020s. The world's largest automaker will unveil a prototype next year.

The electric vehicles being developed by Toyota will have a range more than twice the distance of a vehicle running on a conventional lithium-ion battery under the same conditions. All accomplished without sacrificing interior space in even the most compact vehicle.

 

Solid-state batteries are expected to become a viable alternative to lithium-ion batteries that use aqueous electrolyte solutions. The innovation would lower the risk of fires, and multiply energy density, which measures the energy a battery can deliver compared to its weight.

It would take roughly 10 minutes to charge an electric vehicle equipped with a solid-state battery, cutting the recharging time by two-thirds. The battery can extend the driving distance of a compact electric vehicle while maintaining legroom.

Toyota stands at the top of the global heap with over 1,000 patents involving solid-state batteries. Nissan Motor plans to develop its own solid-state battery which will power a non-simulation vehicle by 2028.

The shift toward the new battery technology will also have an effect on companies further down the supply chain.

Japanese auto materials makers are rushing to set up the necessary infrastructure to supply automakers. Mitsui Mining and Smelting, commonly known as Mitsui Kinzoku, will start up a pilot facility that will make solid electrolytes for the batteries.

The production site, located at a research and development center in Saitama Prefecture, will be able to produce dozens of tons of solid electrolyte annually staring next year, enough to fulfill orders for prototypes.

Oil company Idemitsu Kosan is installing solid electrolyte production equipment at its Chiba Prefecture site with the aim of beginning operation next year. Manufacturing solid electrolytes requires solidifying sulfides, which is a specialty of the metal and chemical industry. Sumitomo Chemical is developing material as well.

Japanese manufacturers like Sony and Panasonic have been pioneers in commercializing battery cells for vehicles. But since the late 2000s, Chinese rivals have emerged to prominence. Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, also known as CATL, is now the world's largest supplier of lithium ion batteries. Japan's Asahi Kasei, once the global leader in battery separator material, gave up the crown last year to Shanghai Energy.

Electric vehicles are anticipated to become commonplace amid the global shift away from carbon. The Japanese government has been encouraging the domestic development of solid-state batteries, under the outlook that most of the technology relating to automotive performance will depend on China if the status quo holds.

The government is putting together a fund of about 2 trillion yen ($19.2 billion) that will support decarbonization technology. Policymakers will consider using those funds to provide subsidies of hundreds of billions of yen that will fund the development of the new batteries.

The goal is to support the development of a mass-production infrastructure within Japan. Because solid-state batteries use lithium, an element with limited global reserves, the government will assist in procuring the material.

The rest of the world is following suit. Germany's Volkswagen plans to have production running for solid-state batteries as soon as 2025 via a joint-venture with a U.S. startup.

Chinese tech group QingTao (Kunshan) Energy Development will spend over 1 billion yuan ($153 million) into R&D of solid-state batteries, among other areas. The investment will last for three years starting in 2021.

Japan vadu digadu ante lothu ga untadi .... direct Tsla core strategy ni target chesadu

[dasara_bullodu1]

3 hours ago, Spartan said:

TSLA has its own power game there..mainly on software and analytics, AI engine..

but others are reaching fast.

TSLA USP is not cars, it monopoly on batteries and the supercharger network ...

[Ryzen_renoir]

35 minutes ago, yemdoing said:

softwarre optimization vere motor companies chetha kaledu antaav anthey na ?

 

That's because of the unique feedback mechanism of  all Tesla cars  

Tesla is a software company that makes cars , thier cars are continuously sending data andget updated regularly .

While all others are car companies that are trying to make software

[Ryzen_renoir]

18 minutes ago, dasara_bullodu1 said:

TSLA USP is not cars, it monopoly on batteries and the supercharger network ...

Wrong Tesla does not make batteries , panasonic , CAMP supplies same batteries to Tesla and many other companies

[quickgun_murugun]

4 hours ago, Spartan said:

A trip of 500 km on one charge. A recharge from zero to full in 10 minutes. All with minimal safety concerns. The solid-state battery being introduced by Toyota promises to be a game changer not just for electric vehicles but for an entire industry.

Nice 

[yemdoing]

9 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

That's because of the unique feedback mechanism of  all Tesla cars  

Tesla is a software company that makes cars , thier cars are continuously sending data andget updated regularly .

While all others are car companies that are trying to make software

I don’t care if Tesla is a software company or a dairy company or a beverage company . 
 

it’s surprising to see a a decade old company eating up luxury car market share from BMW , audi and merc. And they can’t do sheet . 
 

even though they are multi billion dollar companies. 

[Ryzen_renoir]

3 minutes ago, yemdoing said:

I don’t care if Tesla is a software company or a dairy company or a beverage company . 
 

it’s surprising to see a a decade old company eating up luxury car market share from BMW , audi and merc. And they can’t do sheet . 
 

even though they are multi billion dollar companies. 

I told you the reason why Tesla is ahead , traditional car companies operate under a culture that is decades old and does not place much importance on software .

Tesla is completely opposite in that regard and traditional companies are beginning to copy Tesla in many aspects , they will catch up with them in few years

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