'The Gandhis Must Retire from Politics, Leave Congress Now, their Presence Only Helps Modi'—Ram Guha

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Some highlights (paraphrased):

 

Guha 1:41: The Modi govt is authoritarian, sectarian and incompetent.. Unless there is a credible opposition, we can't strive for a more caring, more inclusive and a better run govt. And clearly, the Congress under the Gandhi's are incapable of providing that opposition.

 

Guha 2: 20: There is an echo-chamber around the Gandhis in Delhi - including the journalists- who are totally clueless about what ordinary people think about fifth generation dynasts.

 

Thapar 3:00: Asks about Sonia and Rahul's flip-flops and lip service to principled secularism and free-market reforms.

 

Guha 3:29: They only believe on family control of the party.. Certainly they have no coherent ideology. ..they were absent from the Jamia student agitations this time last year, this year the farmer's have asked them to stay away because they have a strong economic and moral case and don't want a discredited party involved. The allies are saying Rahul is incompetent.

 

Guha 6:03: Modi and Shah and their regime will destroy everything that the early Congress and Mahatma Gandhi stood for.

 

Thapar 6:50: Brings up Guha's comment on the Gandhi's lack of hard work and persistence.

 

Guha 9:08: There's nothing more one can say about the Gandhis. They have lost a series of elections, they must go and they must go so that we can rescue what remains of this country from these authoritarian, sectarian, incompetent bigots who rule us.

 

Thapar 18:34: As a political commentator I want to ask, .."Do you believe Rahul Gandhi can revive the Congress, win an election and one day bring it back to power?"

 

Guha 18:53: (impatiently) Karan, it shows how trapped you are - in old thinking, in Delhi - that you're asking this question after 15 years. Here is a man who could not even retain his seat in Amethi.

 

Guha 20:00: It's their business if they want to run it as their family firm .. good luck to them. But as a citizen The future of this republic is extremely dark so long as the BJP and RSS exercise hegemonic control over our power.. I dislike the Congress but I detest the BJP even more because they can repudiate all that this country stood for.

 

..Against extraordinary odds, in a divided, poor, hierarchical society we built a pluralistic democracy, conquered illiteracy and mass poverty to grow our economy, and were a beacon in the world .. and we blow all that away under Modi and Shah - FACILITATED by the Gandhi family.

 

Thapar 22:18 (refers to interview 7 years ago) You called him a 'well-intentioned dilettante' - how much worse is your opinion today?

 

Guha 23:15: It hasn't changed.. he's spectacularly unfit.. The history of authoritarian regimes tells you (these regimes) thrive when there are no alternatives - when there are duds, weaklings opposing them. The Gandhis' (not going anywhere) enables the consolidation, the strengthening and the perpetuation of a regime that will destroy all that this republic was supposed to stand for.

 

Guha 29:10: The removal of the Gandhis is not a one-stop solution to the revival of the Congress Party, it's a prelude to begin to save the republic from the ravages of the Modi-Shah regime.

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[Sachin200]

Very great intellectual 

 

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Center of left shoulder reinvent itself. There is no unity in it and most of it exists as a smattering.

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[Ryzen_renoir]

15 minutes ago, Sachin200 said:

Very great intellectual 

 

What do you find it wrong in the article linked by him ?  He didn't write it , he only shared it .

 

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10 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

Center of left shoulder reinvent itself. There is no unity in it and most of it exists as a smattering.

If the pretenders vanish , alternatives will flourish

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1 minute ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

If the pretenders vanish , alternatives will flourish

I keep thinking that larger populations take more time to swing. I mean we did have a 40 year stretch of congress govt before we had an alternative. Could it be that we are seeing the other side establishing itself before it swings the other way? 

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9 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

I keep thinking that larger populations take more time to swing. I mean we did have a 40 year stretch of congress govt before we had an alternative. Could it be that we are seeing the other side establishing itself before it swings the other way? 

You are right , it will take some time for an alternative to emerge in such a large/ diverse nation but it will always do so .

Gandhi's are the lynchpin that's  stopping it at the moment but no king rules forever , five generations of gandhi family is enough

 

 

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Gandhi’s have shown how incompetent they are when it comes to leadership. But at the same time, If Gandhi’s step aside then congress May disintegrate into many parties and every state’s congress unit may become a regional party. 
 

IMO, Gandhi surname is the binding factor for Congress. They were never really strong and powerful if not for the coterie around them. 

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56 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

You are right , it will take some time for an alternative to emerge in such a large/ diverse nation but it will always do so .

Gandhi's are the lynchpin that's  stopping it at the moment but no king rules forever , five generations of gandhi family is enough

The alternative thought is that India never truly had a center of left. Now that could be a scarier reality. Center of left ideologies are mostly fueled by intellectualism, freedom and free will and I don’t think Indians understand the last two. The first one could just be a faint remenant of the British Raj- people who pretended to be something. Something very organic is missing and all we are left with is what we see in today’s congress. I am not sure if anything exists at the grass roots level. If it had any good foundations, we could have atleast seen some good leaders. There is more structure when the roots are strong and I don’t see that now.

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3 hours ago, Sachin200 said:

Very great intellectual 

 

Open ga Gandhi’s Mudd! Kadugutha ani raasukunnaadu twitter lo - veedi dhaggara nunchi inthakantey emi expect chesthaaru 😂😂