Tomato 1 rupee per kg

[hyperbole]

3 minutes ago, MagaMaharaju said:

excess supply ah? what's the reason?

last year ee time ki kilo onion 100 rs unde

Pershible goods kada government can’t hoard to regulate prices like rice and wheat

[Joker_007]

1 minute ago, hyperbole said:

Free trade okka impact ide, repu rice and wheat kuda ide partisiti untadi.

Already Bihar la 800/quintal rice compared to 1850 paid in Punjab, AP and Telangana mandis.

how does it work?

The government uses the produce procured to do two things: it distributes a portion of the stock through the PDS/other welfare schemes and retains a portion as “buffer stock” or strategic reserves. 
 

This buffer stock is super important - it  acts as insurance against a food scarcity event, but it also acts as a price regulation tool. When prices in the market spike, the government releases a portion of these surplus stocks to bump up supply and bring down price. 

The very existence of the surplus protects us from hoarding - no one wants to hoard when they know the govt can always flood the market and control price. 
 

Second, they used to impose stock limits under the essential commodities act. If prices spiralled, they could order everyone to sell any stock over a set limit into the open market. The increase in supply would then reduce price. 

Now what do the farm bills do to this system? 

First, they restrict the ability of the government to impose stock limits under the ECA to extreme situations, and also exempts what are called  value chain participants entirely from these limits.
 

Who are value chain participants? Well, it’s a broad definition and includes any private player involved in processing distribution etc.
 

What does this mean? Well, it means that the essential commodities act can’t really be used anymore to effectively control food price.

Ok, but we still have procurement, and the buffer stocks to control price? Well, it’s complicated.
 

This now starts to get a bit scary. The reduction in surplus stocks will reduce the governments ability to control market price by releasing stocks. 
 

People like Adnani are building huge warehouses in Haryana and Gujarat to hoard supplies to control the prices which will be eventually a bummer to the customers.

I do not understand why people always show Adani as demon of India.. Did he damaged Indian economy, how it fits your argument here... everybody is building warehouses including Vijay Sai reddy, Sekar reddy, CBN's cousins near Hyderabad, Lotus Party Guys on National Highway on the way to Sri Sailam Project , Karnataka CM Eddy near davangere,  the list goes on..

GOVT will be procuring as usual as part of Food Security bill so there is no question of depleting the buffer stock.. this will continue as usual, BJP or Congress would not dare to touch the free bee schemes after all who wants to loose their vote bank .. if these forces tries to sabotage this system then people are there who can utilize this a political weapon

if there is no competition the price always sour this is what happening now in case of the crops which are not protected by MSP.. most of the stuff is getting stored in the warehouse of politicians, if the industrialist enter this area then definitely there would be competition. Concept of forming a syndicate happens when the industry is not regulated this is what happening in India. e.g.. There was no concept of discount in Pharmacy Sector, once Med Plus entered market now local medical shops are thinking about discounts to regular customers.

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[Sachin200]

12 minutes ago, hyperbole said:

America lo soya bean and corn paina study cheyi okkasari. 
government gives billions of dollars to farmers to not to Sow in case there is a forecast of excess production mana daggara aa apparatus ledu unna strengthen cheyaniki evvadu try cheyaru government ki bokka ani

 

One Solution is food processing for perishable produce. Mana daggara both consumers and industry ee concept ledu.. secondly educating the farmers on the forecast

Rice production ni restrict cheyali by educating farmers in terms of health benefits antunaru . Do you think farmers will listen /agree ? 

[Sachin200]

14 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

No , It's a really complex problem  . It will take a combination of

developing varieties that can produce in off season  - needs central government investment 

planned plantation so that excess production will not occur at a single time . Needs State government intervention 

Reducing the cost of transportation for food , disel tax is too high .

Promotion of processing units(sauce/canned /dried tomato)  + contract farming . These are not viable by private sector without support from center + state government 

Most important of all forming a farm association so that they have some bargaining power in dealing with trader mafia 

 

Sun Dried tomatoes , tomato puree /sauce can be good ones with more production .  

Organic farming promote cheyandi , they can sell them at higher prices . Real organic farming and target for seasoned vegetables too 

 

[hyperbole]

2 minutes ago, Sachin200 said:

Rice production ni restrict cheyali by educating farmers in terms of health benefits antunaru . Do you think farmers will listen /agree ? 

Vallaku alternative income source unanata varaku cheyaru.

cotton and mirchi are alternative crops in Telugu states

punjab la wheat and sugarcane.

because these are cash crops and rice is something government guarantees to buy from them

[Ryzen_renoir]

1 minute ago, Sachin200 said:

Sun Dried tomatoes , tomato puree /sauce can be good ones with more production .  

Organic farming promote cheyandi , they can sell them at higher prices . Real organic farming and target for seasoned vegetables too 

 

Lol ...  Organic in india is all about marketing , nothing to do with farming at all .  Believe me all organic stuff is just fake in india unless you know the farmer well

[hyperbole]

16 minutes ago, Joker_007 said:

I do not understand why people always show Adani as demon of India.. Did he damaged Indian economy, how it fits your argument here... everybody is building warehouses including Vijay Sai reddy, Sekar reddy, CBN's cousins near Hyderabad, Lotus Party Guys on National Highway on the way to Sri Sailam Project , Karnataka CM Eddy near davangere,  the list goes on..

GOVT will be procuring as usual as part of Food Security bill so there is no question of depleting the buffer stock.. this will continue as usual, BJP or Congress would not dare to touch the free bee schemes after all who wants to loose their vote bank .. if these forces tries to sabotage this system then people are there who can utilize this a political weapon

if there is no competition the price always sour this is what happening now in case of the crops which are not protected by MSP.. most of the stuff is getting stored in the warehouse of politicians, if the industrialist enter this area then definitely there would be competition. Concept of forming a syndicate happens when the industry is not regulated this is what happening in India. e.g.. There was no concept of discount in Pharmacy Sector, once Med Plus entered market now local medical shops are thinking about discounts to regular customers.

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he is evil just that you are not seeing it and it is a matter of time once they have a monopoly in each of their business domains. everyone knows the outcome of monopoly.

 

for example the cost of docking and loading/unloading a ship was $30k in 2014 and now it is $130k after adani took over. Whom do think these costs are passed onto?

 

[Sachin200]

Just now, Ryzen_renoir said:

Lol ...  Organic in india is all about marketing , nothing to do with farming at all .  Believe me all organic stuff is just fake in india unless you know the farmer well

Agree , it is ! Real organic products chesi they can sell for high prices . People who can afford do  buy those . But organic anedhi ee base meedha cheptaro relative 

[ZoomNaidu]

1 hour ago, Joker_007 said:

edavandi.... vadevado cheppadu ga contract farming not good ani... only beneficial to Ambani ani... Market Yards super keka minimum price guarantee untadi ani...

Malli itta logics chebithey manalni anti-farmers ani antaaru picha yedhavalu 

[Joker_007]

20 minutes ago, hyperbole said:

for example the cost of docking and loading/unloading a ship was $30k in 2014 and now it is $130k after adani took over. Whom do think these costs are passed onto?

 

I know the answer,,, Modi right ..?

[Joker_007]

59 minutes ago, yemdoing said:

oh man.. this is an great example to show why MSP is required.

farmers protest seems justified. can someone explain how farmer bill can help farmers ?

 

A is farmer he raises tomatoes twice a year (if all goes well) , if he wants to sell his crop he has the following

1) Yard

2) Mandi

3) Farmers Market

4) Eat himself

5) Sell the customer Directly.

Currently law prohibits direct selling of produce to dealers or retailers. They are supposed to buy from Yard or Mandi's only. Even if they want to , the politicians will not allow as this the place where they get Votes , Money and Prestige.  almost every politician from Rural India will have direct link with market Yards or Mandi's.

Famers bill will allow farmers to enter an agreement between the dealers or retailer or any private person with a MSP before he starts growing the Crop (i see this kind of agreement already in Mango farmers, where they will sell the crop for an estimated price and it would be the burden of the purchaser for transporting and selling the mangoes) .

Famers are fighting for the below reasons,

this bill is not allowing the Farmers to go to court if a dispute arises, the legality of agreement is big question mark.

they are afraid that the GOVT may stop collecting the crops,

Adani will get rich , rich and more rich on one day he will buy entire India & become GOD of the Nation, the poor Indians will live like Dogs ... so we need to STOP this...  as per Modi haters.

[hyperbole]

20 minutes ago, Joker_007 said:

A is farmer he raises tomatoes twice a year (if all goes well) , if he wants to sell his crop he has the following

1) Yard

2) Mandi

3) Farmers Market

4) Eat himself

5) Sell the customer Directly.

Currently law prohibits direct selling of produce to dealers or retailers. They are supposed to buy from Yard or Mandi's only. Even if they want to , the politicians will not allow as this the place where they get Votes , Money and Prestige.  almost every politician from Rural India will have direct link with market Yards or Mandi's.

Famers bill will allow farmers to enter an agreement between the dealers or retailer or any private person with a MSP before he starts growing the Crop (i see this kind of agreement already in Mango farmers, where they will sell the crop for an estimated price and it would be the burden of the purchaser for transporting and selling the mangoes) .

Famers are fighting for the below reasons,

this bill is not allowing the Farmers to go to court if a dispute arises, the legality of agreement is big question mark.

they are afraid that the GOVT may stop collecting the crops,

Adani will get rich , rich and more rich on one day he will buy entire India & become GOD of the Nation, the poor Indians will live like Dogs ... so we need to STOP this...  as per Modi haters.

Where did you get this from? Even in current status quo farmer can sell where ever they want and to whom ever they want. Only mandis are regulated and in order for one to buy from Mandi they ought to be certified as a trader.

all about this law is creating a parallel market to kill Mandi system

[Joker_007]

Just now, hyperbole said:

Where did you get this from? Even in current status quo farmer can sell where ever they want and to whom ever they want. Only mandis are regulated and in order for one to buy from Mandi they ought to be certified as a trader.

all about this law is creating a parallel market to kill Mandi system

nope.. my grand father is Farmer.. he only told to me at one time that he can not sell directly a Dealer or Retailer legally.. Retailer or Dealer should always possess receipts of the good they purchased for taxation, 

Check with your relatives who are farmers, whether they sold any of the produce to a dealer or Retailer... not Kirana Kottu guys.. I may be wrong too... 

[kakatiya]

6 hours ago, Joker_007 said:

edavandi.... vadevado cheppadu ga contract farming not good ani... only beneficial to Ambani ani... Market Yards super keka minimum price guarantee untadi ani...

Market yards kaadu..politicians.. 

 

They have to control which crop..

 

We year 3% tomoto farmers poland vesaru...they got 100% profit .next year 73% farmers vesthadu zero profit .government haveto tell the famers to control this crop

[Amrita]

Tomato pachadi chesi ammachu kada? Next time veggies 100 rs ki konte oka bottle free ayina ivvachu kada ah pachadi. Why throwing away. They look fresh also