narsy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Posted December 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said: Yes they still need to become a domestic consumption driven economy. They are trying hard but it is not easy. Indian economy cannot even organize to supply someone orders based on someone design leave alone create a consumption driven economy where products need to be planned and designed for consumption. Did you read about china latest chang'e 5 lunar mission - very impressive Its a question of survival for the CCP. People are waiting to take their head off, if they falter. They have drummed up so much natonalist sentiment the last few years, its frankly disgusting. They are worse than India in that respect. centralized planning doesn't work Chinese economy is not centrally planned or managed, CCP just manipulates its currency, and messes with the financial system, never directly with the economy, inspite of 60% of the economy consisting of public enterprises, which are all run with a greater degree of autonomy. India did a mistake by opening up its financial sector to the world, and with it the scrutiny of the world, before India got off to a great start. Now, whenever wants to make bold expenditure plans, you'll have western hawks threatening India that its bonds will be moved to junk status. pvnr should have done the harder thing of opening up credit and shutting out domestic financial system from the world, than open India to investors. Investors are all assholes, and India can never escape this position of west's lapdog under this arrangement. India can do all the planning or whatever it wants to. But unless Modi closes off India's economy to the world (which he has done in few sectors), and still create competitive environment for local providers to thrive in, India has no hope in hell to compete at the highest level. bhakts are all day dreaming. Quote
narsy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Posted December 27, 2020 pls note, I don't want India to do all these things, because I don't want India to become 'great'. we have enough sh1t to hande in the world in the form of US and China. we don't also need India in the mix. I'd be happy if India just breaks into dozen countries. net positive to its citizens an the world. 1 Quote
narsy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Posted December 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said: Did you read about china latest chang'e 5 lunar mission - very impressive natural consequence of wealth Quote
Telugodura456 Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Posted December 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, narsy said: pls note, I don't want India to do all these things, because I don't want India to become 'great'. we have enough sh1t to hande in the world in the form of US and China. we don't also need India in the mix. I'd be happy if India just breaks into dozen countries. net positive to its citizens an the world. yea and i think china too needs to losen grip on xinjiang or wherever those uighurs live. Quote
narsy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said: yea and i think china too needs to losen grip on xinjiang or wherever those uighurs live. like how did 4G in India become so competitive, inspite of no presence of much outside investment? India should replicate that model in all sectors. I mean try to achieve that end. just ban google, facebook and all the shitheads in India. or force them all to have servers in India and claim to have strict protections for India's data. lol. manipulate currency and drive rupee upto 120-150rs, and fcuk china. If you can't do this when crude oil prices have been at record lows for 5yrs now, then one has to assume that India's leadership has no intent, and so does the Indian public. They are all really happy to be west's lapdog. and make the occasional noise of being a great civilization. Quote
narsy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Posted December 27, 2020 Ambani finally has to sell stake in jio to facebook and the like because he has to pay up his loans. In china, these would be buried under a mountain of bigger loans. nobody knows how indebted chinese factories are.. and it doesn't matter. money is just imaginary thing that people made up. Quote
narsy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Posted December 27, 2020 Indians whine too much about India's place in the world. irritating. your country sucks, and it has no intent to get great. deal with it. Quote
Telugodura456 Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, narsy said: Ambani finally has to sell stake in jio to facebook and the like because he has to pay up his loans. In china, these would be buried under a mountain of bigger loans. nobody knows how indebted chinese factories are.. and it doesn't matter. money is just imaginary thing that people made up. Exactly - we can see china is actually building stuff people use - rails, trains, roads, parks, buildings, schools. It doesnt matter what loans are behind it, They are building one on other and people are getting to enjoy it and live a good quality life; Quote
Telugodura456 Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Posted December 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, narsy said: like how did 4G in India become so competitive, inspite of no presence of much outside investment? India should replicate that model in all sectors. I mean try to achieve that end. just ban google, facebook and all the shitheads in India. or force them all to have servers in India and claim to have strict protections for India's data. lol. manipulate currency and drive rupee upto 120-150rs, and fcuk china. If you can't do this when crude oil prices have been at record lows for 5yrs now, then one has to assume that India's leadership has no intent, and so does the Indian public. They are all really happy to be west's lapdog. and make the occasional noise of being a great civilization. i dont think 4g coverage all that good in india outside cities. its very low quality. Quote
narsy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said: i dont think 4g coverage all that good in india outside cities. its very low quality. even as 3G prices, mobile data is dead cheap in India. Quote
narsy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Posted December 27, 2020 holy crap. sorrry. I sound like a perfect fascist. Quote
Telugodura456 Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Posted December 27, 2020 chinese built such a tough road just for 253 villagers and also rebuilt all villagers houses. 1 Quote
modi_bhakth Posted December 27, 2020 Report Posted December 27, 2020 Thier political system(communism) is fake just like their products Quote
nathisheeyem Posted December 27, 2020 Report Posted December 27, 2020 Nenu China vellochaa M lo country everything is a copy(infra is gud in Shanghai at least) They dnt have access to external world(dnt talk abt VPN ... it sucks n too slow) ... Han China is the best ane feeling lo untaaru since they dnt share same forums with rest of the world. Quote
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