Each year 1,000 Pakistani girls forcibly converted to Islam

[PilliBeta]

2 minutes ago, ZoomNaidu said:

Ekkuva laagamaaku - pepancham motthaNikki thelusu conversions yetta jaruguthunnaayo 

I know of one converted Christian family that is happy ruling the state. If convertion is forceful why are they not going back to Hinduism? Bro Anil sabhalaki vachinavallu anta forceful ga ochara? Why are they proud of their religion if their conversion is forceful?

[NiranjanGaaru]

1 minute ago, PilliBeta said:

I know of one converted Christian family that is happy ruling the state. If convertion is forceful why are they not going back to Hinduism? Bro Anil sabhalaki vachinavallu anta forceful ga ochara? Why are they proud of their religion if their conversion is forceful?

Why not saying ka Paul , why targeting anil ani @kidneychepadu

[NiranjanGaaru]

2 minutes ago, PilliBeta said:

I know of one converted Christian family that is happy ruling the state. If convertion is forceful why are they not going back to Hinduism? Bro Anil sabhalaki vachinavallu anta forceful ga ochara? Why are they proud of their religion if their conversion is forceful?

Many of Christians are going back to Hinduism

Simple thing they should do is read Bible completely including old Testament and new testament, they themselves come back to Hinduism, but most people are uneducated and gorrelu (I mean they follow blindly, what their pastors say), or busy or lazy to read that Bible 📖👼

[PilliBeta]

14 minutes ago, NiranjanGaaru said:

Why not saying ka Paul , why targeting anil ani @kidneychepadu

Same with ka paul, all these people are happy being Christians, they are not forceful conversions. 

[kittaya]

1 hour ago, PilliBeta said:

Not by force though. 

mental pressure pedatharu baaaa 

this is metal force untadhi bagaaa 

[NiranjanGaaru]

2 minutes ago, kittaya said:

mental pressure pedatharu baaaa 

this is metal force untadhi bagaaa 

Exactly @PilliBeta

 

[Somedude]

50 minutes ago, PilliBeta said:

So religion is bad for the world antaav

Yes, it is bad though it has utilitarian value like charity or morale sense driven from religious point of view or social gatherings to improve the human relations and etc. These can be taught/learned without being a religous person.

I will add why it is bad -

The dictionary mearning of religion/faith -   Strong belief. Belief is an opinion or idea with unfounded evidence. In psychology, anything of this sort is called delusion. If one person suffers from delusion, we call it insanity and if many people suffers from delusion we call it religion. To add further, belief is cognitive content held as true or a vague idea in which some confidence is placed. If you look at the essence of it, it does not consider characteristics like logic, rationality and objective analysis which are the pillars of our species to survive for millions of years from many odds and to be where we are today. And religion's negative utilitarian value - conflicts among different faiths, being used as tool to decieve innocent children/adults by faith preachers or emotional manipulations by politicians for their benfits or treatment of women... Cheppukuntu pothe chalane unnayi.

 

[PilliBeta]

13 minutes ago, NiranjanGaaru said:

Many of Christians are going back to Hinduism

Simple thing they should do is read Bible completely including old Testament and new testament, they themselves come back to Hinduism, but most people are uneducated and gorrelu (I mean they follow blindly, what their pastors say), or busy or lazy to read that Bible 📖👼

You and me cannot tell people what they should or shouldn't believe. People will believe what they want, the constitution gave them the right to... I am just pointing out that conversions to Christianity, atleast the majority of them seem to be happy, they are not complaining like forced conversions to Islam. 

[NiranjanGaaru]

Just now, PilliBeta said:

You and me cannot tell people what they should or shouldn't believe. People will believe what they want, the constitution gave them the right to... I am just pointing out that conversions to Christianity, atleast the majority of them seem to be happy, they are not complaining like forced conversions to Islam. 

Same  Constitution says 

The Constitution of India encourages the citizens of India to have a sense of scientific temper. According to the Fundamental Duties under Article 51 A(h): [It shall be the duty of every citizen of India] To develop scientific temper, humanism and the spirit of inquiry and reform.

 

So Bible is most unscientific book on planet , e book chadavadam valana scientific temper lose avtharu 

 hinduism and bhagavadgita is bit closer to science and logic, that's what I am saying

posted above videos for you, see how people were suffering in christianity

 

[PilliBeta]

2 minutes ago, Somedude said:

Yes, it is bad though it has utilitarian value like charity or morale sense driven from religious point of view or social gatherings to improve the human relations and etc. These can be taught/learned without being a religous person.

I will add why it is bad -

The dictionary mearning of religion/faith -   Strong belief. Belief is an opinion or idea with unfounded evidence. In psychology, anything of this sort is called delusion. If one person suffers from a delusion, we call it insanity and if many people suffers from delusion we call it religion. To add further, belief is cognitive content held as true or a vague idea in which some confidence is placed. If you look at the essence of it, it does not consider characteristics like logic, rationality and objective analysis which are the pillars of our species to survive for millions of years from many odds and to be where we are today. And religion's negative utilitarian value - conflicts among different faiths, being used as tool to decieve innocent children/adults by faith preachers or emotional manipulations by politicians for their benfits or treatment of women... Cheppukuntu pothe chalane unnayi.

 

The purpose of religion is to teach moral values to the society. Not everyone will have the cognitive values to tell good from bad based on logic and reasoning, so, religion is used to teach people moral values. 

[PilliBeta]

Just now, NiranjanGaaru said:

Same  Constitution says 

The Constitution of India encourages the citizens of India to have a sense of scientific temper. According to the Fundamental Duties under Article 51 A(h): [It shall be the duty of every citizen of India] To develop scientific temper, humanism and the spirit of inquiry and reform.

 

So Bible is most unscientific book on planet , e book chadavadam valana scientific temper lose avtharu 

 hinduism and bhagavadgita is bit closer to science and logic, that's what I am saying

posted above videos for you, see how people were suffering in christianity

 

Nuvvu cheppedi nammalani enti ra guarantee? I believe in spiritual Hinduism, different from the one you're preaching. Nuvv cheppindi nenu nammanu, because my beliefs are based on my understanding of life, how can you force someone to believe someone to believe  something without their consent? Why are converted people happy if their conversion was forceful?

[Somedude]

5 minutes ago, PilliBeta said:

The purpose of religion is to teach moral values to the society. Not everyone will have the cognitive values to tell good from bad based on logic and reasoning, so, religion is used to teach people moral values. 

The -ve baggage it brings outweighs the +ve things it brings. Majority of Europe, US/Canada and China are non-religious. Do you think they are not as moral as the religious people in Pak/India and etc? The quality of life is always better in non-reigious countris.

[NiranjanGaaru]

10 minutes ago, PilliBeta said:

Nuvvu cheppedi nammalani enti ra guarantee? I believe in spiritual Hinduism, different from the one you're preaching. Nuvv cheppindi nenu nammanu, because my beliefs are based on my understanding of life, how can you force someone to believe someone to believe  something without their consent? Why are converted people happy if their conversion was forceful?

What is spiritual hinduism., explain?? 

Hinduism is itself spiritual unlike other religions

Force ante enti? What do you mean by that? 

If u not worship Jesus, you will rot in hell fire 🔥 , adhi force!!!, understand

That's what Bible preaches

[PilliBeta]

1 hour ago, NiranjanGaaru said:

What is spiritual hinduism., explain?? 

Hinduism is itself spiritual unlike other religions

Force ante enti? What do you mean by that? 

If u not worship Jesus, you will rot in hell fire 🔥 , adhi force!!!, understand

That's what Bible preaches

I believe in some things in Hinduism, like seeing God in one self. I don't believe in idol worship. I believe in karma yogam, and some things from Bhagavad Geeta. 

When you talk about other religions, you're only seeing the things you want to see. Everything can be twisted the way you want to, that's what you're doing with Christianity. Others can also do the same about Hinduism, they can say Brahmins are the head and Sudras are the feet according to Vedas, so Hindus are all bigots. But you and I know that's not the case with most Hindus. 

[ZoomNaidu]

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