Local Polls: What Will Jagan Do Now?

[Anta Assamey]

With state election commissioner Nimmagadda Ramesh Kumar unilaterally announcing the schedule for conducting gram panchayat polls in February, everybody is curious as to what YSR Congress party president and chief minister Y S Jagan Mohan Reddy will do now.

There are no indications about the government’s strategy in the statement released to the media by principal secretary of panchayat raj department Gopala Krishan Dwivedi last night.

But there have been reports that Jagan might move the Supreme Court to obtain stay on the SEC circular and stall the election process for now.

It wants to drag the issue as long as it can, so that the elections could be postponed to April by which time Nimmagadda will relinquish his post.

However, there is also a talk that the Jagan government will not cooperate with the SEC in the conduct of the gram panchayat elections. The government will simply dump all the circulars of the SEC and ignore him. 

If Nimmagadda orders transfer of any official, the government will not implement them, as it did in March, when he ordered transfer of Kadapa and Guntur collectors. He will also ask all the employees and officials not to take any orders from the EC.

Such non-cooperation process has already begun on Saturday with the state employees’ unions announcing boycotting of local body elections.

Expressing anger over the SEC for announcing the schedule without consulting the employees, they unanimously resolved not to cooperate with the SEC in the elections.

“How can the SEC announce the schedule without taking into consideration the views of the employees? We can take up the polls only after the completion of vaccination process. The SEC action only reflects the vengeful attitude towards the government,” they said.

What can Nimmagadda do if the employees don’t cooperate? He will have to move the court again to get the directions.

The government will challenge them in higher courts and that will continue for a few more weeks, so that Nimmagadda has to step down without conducting the polls!

[NiranjanGaaru]

Ice fruit

[Anta Assamey]

[Vaampire]

Clash of ego between 2 idiots.

court rendu parties ki mottikayal veyyali. Akkada discussions avvakamundey vsr april lo avuthayi antadu. Ikkada discussions ki pilichi vallu vellina minutes loney nimmagadda schedule announce chesadu. 2018 lo enduku pettaledho ithanu cheppadu..

panilo pani ap ngo’s memu cooperate cheyyamu antunaru. Election duty lo unna vallaki first phase corona vaccination ivvali antunadu nimmagadda..

statw govt HC ki poyindi.. odipothey center ki pothadi. Mostly govt enployees support cheyyanivvadu jagga. Nimmagadda will ask for central resources

[Somedude]

unilaterally enti man? Election commision anedhi autonomous body constitutional ga. They should take the decision without external control.

[Vaampire]

3 minutes ago, Somedude said:

unilaterally enti man? Election commision anedhi autonomous body constitutional ga. They should take the decision without external control.

Theoritical gaa yes. Kaani practically not possible gaa. These elections were due from 2018. 

[Somedude]

1 minute ago, Vaampire said:

Theoritical gaa yes. Kaani practically not possible gaa. These elections were due from 2018. 

Jamili elections unte practical ga chance untadhi. Elections schedule time lo EC ki bureaucracy meedha full control ki chance untadhi. Govt ni request cheyyakunda.

[Vaampire]

5 minutes ago, Somedude said:

Jamili elections unte practical ga chance untadhi. Elections schedule time lo EC ki bureaucracy meedha full control ki chance untadhi. Govt ni request cheyyakunda.

Jamili elections good concept ey. But is it possible aa anedhey question.

chaala state govts/even central govt full majority rakapovochu. Prabhutvam padipothey appudu aa state ki pette elections ki validity enni years. 5 or till the tme all other states elections held. 
 

EC ki full control bureaucracy meedha ivvadam kooda risk. Who will be answarable for the wrong doings?
 

[Somedude]

10 minutes ago, Vaampire said:

Jamili elections good concept ey. But is it possible aa anedhey question.

chaala state govts/even central govt full majority rakapovochu. Prabhutvam padipothey appudu aa state ki pette elections ki validity enni years. 5 or till the tme all other states elections held. 
 

EC ki full control bureaucracy meedha ivvadam kooda risk. Who will be answarable for the wrong doings?
 

For your question about 5 years rule -

* ప్రభుత్వాలు ముందస్తుగానే అవిశ్వాసం ఎదుర్కొని కూలిపోతే ఎలా అనేది జమిలి ఎన్నికలకు ప్రధాన అడ్డంకిగా నిలవటంతో... 1999లో వాజ్‌పేయీ ప్రభుత్వ హయాంలో అప్పటి లా కమిషన్‌ ఒక ప్రతిపాదన చేసింది. ప్రభుత్వంపై అవిశ్వాసం ప్రకటించేవారు... ప్రత్యామ్నాయంగా (విశ్వాస తీర్మానం నెగ్గగల) ఎవరు నెగ్గుతారో చూపించాలనే నిబంధన పెట్టాలని సిఫార్సు చేసింది.

Control under EC is better than Govt formed by one political party which has higher chances of misusing. Ippudu kooda EC has control. But the problem enti ante, EC asks the Govt to provide. Jamili valla, EC doesn't need to ask the Govt. Election schedule time lo undedhi apadharma Govt. Rest will carry on as they are now - courts, presidential involement and etc.

[Vaampire]

10 minutes ago, Somedude said:

For your question about 5 years rule -

* ప్రభుత్వాలు ముందస్తుగానే అవిశ్వాసం ఎదుర్కొని కూలిపోతే ఎలా అనేది జమిలి ఎన్నికలకు ప్రధాన అడ్డంకిగా నిలవటంతో... 1999లో వాజ్‌పేయీ ప్రభుత్వ హయాంలో అప్పటి లా కమిషన్‌ ఒక ప్రతిపాదన చేసింది. ప్రభుత్వంపై అవిశ్వాసం ప్రకటించేవారు... ప్రత్యామ్నాయంగా (విశ్వాస తీర్మానం నెగ్గగల) ఎవరు నెగ్గుతారో చూపించాలనే నిబంధన పెట్టాలని సిఫార్సు చేసింది.

Control under EC is better than Govt formed by one political party which has higher chances of misusing. Ippudu kooda EC has control. But the problem enti ante, EC asks the Govt to provide. Jamili valla, EC doesn't need to ask the Govt. Election schedule time lo undedhi apadharma Govt. Rest will carry on as they are now - courts, presidential involement and etc.

Govt kulipothey em chestharo clear ga ardham kaley bhayya.  Konni states lo 3 big parties unnayi kada. Like karnataka, mh etc.  govt koolipoyaka ey party ki support cheyyadaniki oppukokapothey em chestharu anedhi clear ledhu.  ~1yr ayithey president rule is an option..

 

Motham control EC ki isthey edaina crisis vasthey em avuthada ani. Not that current govts are efficiently handling it. 

[Somedude]

2 minutes ago, Vaampire said:

Govt kulipothey em chestharo clear ga ardham kaley bhayya.  Konni states lo 3 big parties unnayi kada. Like karnataka, mh etc.  govt koolipoyaka ey party ki support cheyyadaniki oppukokapothey em chestharu anedhi clear ledhu.  ~1yr ayithey president rule is an option

Copy chesina dhantlo clear ga undhi kadha. Vajpayee Govt time nunde Jamili elections ki vellali ani undhi. Aa time lo vallu propose chesindhi enti ante- evaru aithe motion of no confidence move chestharo, vallu immediate ga Govt form chesthamu ani prove chesukovali on the same floor. They can't just pass the motion of no confidence without alternative solution to form the Govt for remaining time.

Present situation enti ante, motion of no confidence move chesi Govt ni dhinchesi, konni days tharuvatha harse trading adhi chesi, Governor dhaggari ki velli Govt form chestham ani cheppadam. Form chesaka floor test lo proove chesukoka pothe elections ki velladam. Jamili tho idhi undadhu.

[Vaampire]

2 hours ago, Somedude said:

Copy chesina dhantlo clear ga undhi kadha. Vajpayee Govt time nunde Jamili elections ki vellali ani undhi. Aa time lo vallu propose chesindhi enti ante- evaru aithe motion of no confidence move chestharo, vallu immediate ga Govt form chesthamu ani prove chesukovali on the same floor. They can't just pass the motion of no confidence without alternative solution to form the Govt for remaining time.

Present situation enti ante, motion of no confidence move chesi Govt ni dhinchesi, konni days tharuvatha harse trading adhi chesi, Governor dhaggari ki velli Govt form chestham ani cheppadam. Form chesaka floor test lo proove chesukoka pothe elections ki velladam. Jamili tho idhi undadhu.

Still not clear. 2007 lo kumaraswamy ki ichina support congi back off ayindi. Alanti situation lo ela work avuthadhi. Both bjp & congi did not have enough seats to form govt. so aa case lo motion of no trust pass cheyyaniyyara?

[Somedude]

1 minute ago, Vaampire said:

Still not clear. 2007 lo kumaraswamy ki ichina support congi back off ayindi. Alanti situation lo ela work avuthadhi. Both bjp & congi did not have enough seats to form govt. so aa case lo motion of no trust pass cheyyaniyyara?

If congi backs off, someone will move the motion of no confidence. It could be from conge or other party. That party or person needs to come up with alternative solution. Otherwise Kumarswamy will continue. Once Govt is formed, there will be no issue with the post-Jamili guidelines. But for the problem about 3 parties and not any party getting enough seats - Presedential rule untadhi till one claims with position with enough MLAs.

[Vaampire]

31 minutes ago, Somedude said:

If congi backs off, someone will move the motion of no confidence. It could be from conge or other party. That party or person needs to come up with alternative solution. Otherwise Kumarswamy will continue. Once Govt is formed, there will be no issue with the post-Jamili guidelines. But for the problem about 3 parties and not any party getting enough seats - Presedential rule untadhi till one claims with position with enough MLAs.

Idhey complicated situation.  No confidence move chesinavalley solution chupali antey kumaraswamy gaadi situation lo unna vallaki pandagey kada.  This is going to be a big problem in states where both national parties bjp & congi exist.