futureofandhra Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: @futureofandhra Reasons why vizag steel should not be privatized. 1. Land Problems 2. Jobs 3. Telugu people sacrificed lives 4. “Hakku” Now, if it’s sold to a private company, how does things change ? And if it is not sold, Can you justify the above four points ? And try to keep your response irrespective of politics. if its not sold jobs wonot be lost those who gave lands were promised jobs yes 32 people died to get this steel plant obviously thats the slogan and they won it with that slogan though i like cbn i talk reality antheygani defend cheyanu its not about politics every one supporting this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 31 minutes ago, futureofandhra said: I already mentioned why , if you are not getting my point its ok leave it Private jobs are not like gov jobs, there are jobs promised to those who given land do you know that its not about private or public both has its plus n minus in this case if it goes private those things which are promised with sacrifices has no meaning What are the sacrifices ? who are going to fulfill the sacrifices ? why did not demands were not fulfilled for 40 years ? How do you expect that demands will be fulfilled now ? Is state Government going to fill fill the demands and sacrifices ? From what you say, if the company is privatized then the sacrifices have no meaning. Is that all what you are concerned about ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, futureofandhra said: if its not sold jobs wonot be lost those who gave lands were promised jobs yes 32 people died to get this steel plant obviously thats the slogan and they won it with that slogan though i like cbn i talk reality antheygani defend cheyanu its not about politics every one supporting this If it’s not sold, it will get into much deeper debts and eventually go bankrupt and all the jobs will be lost. Those who gave lands were promised jobs, but it’s the Union Government that will take care of the issue and management has to deal with it. If these demands have not been fulfilled for the last 30-40 years, How do you expect it to happen now ? What is the slogan and who won with what slogan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhaigan Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Vaampire said: Agreed... jagga emo free free free antadu. cbn emo amaravathi antu ppt’s.. Worst leaders Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhaigan Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 56 minutes ago, futureofandhra said: With out solving major issue like lands and jobs issues you want to give away straightforward answer to you Telugu people died for this steel plant Andhra people gave land for this steel plant yevari sommu adhi sodhara #Visakha Ukku -Andhrula Hakku these job issues should be resolved by Trade Unions Telugu people sacrificed agreed akkada oka sentiment undi but inni endlu captive mines enduku allocate cheyaledhu ? both state and central govt.'s captive mines kosam enduku fight cheyaledhu ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhaigan Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: What are the sacrifices ? who are going to fulfill the sacrifices ? why did not demands were not fulfilled for 40 years ? How do you expect that demands will be fulfilled now ? Is state Government going to fill fill the demands and sacrifices ? From what you say, if the company is privatized then the sacrifices have no meaning. Is that all what you are concerned about ? I have same question 40 years ga Vizag steel captive mines demand ni evaru neglect chesaru ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureofandhra Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, bhaigan said: I have same question 40 years ga Vizag steel captive mines demand ni evaru neglect chesaru ? answer telusu kadha bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhaigan Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: If it’s not sold, it will get into much deeper debts and eventually go bankrupt and all the jobs will be lost. Those who gave lands were promised jobs, but it’s the Union Government that will take care of the issue and management has to deal with it. If these demands have not been fulfilled for the last 30-40 years, How do you expect it to happen now ? What is the slogan and who won with what slogan? If it is going into deeper debts just handover the steel plant to State Govt. So this is the conclusion you are coming to if it is not sold it will go into deeper debts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhaigan Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, futureofandhra said: answer telusu kadha bro andaru CM's chesaru then everybody should take the responsibility naa point is very clear Vizag steel kosam evaru(everybody) njimaina udyamam cheyatledhu, so that's it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, bhaigan said: I have same question 40 years ga Vizag steel captive mines demand ni evaru neglect chesaru ? Union Government neglect Chesindi. They own the company and they go by their rules. by the way, captive mines lekunda malli 40 years ela run ayindi mari ? It should have been in losses for the last 40 years but that using the case, Do you have any explanation ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, bhaigan said: If it is going into deeper debts just handover the steel plant to State Govt. So this is the conclusion you are coming to if it is not sold it will go into deeper debts ? Why would it handover to the state bro ? I can understand the sentiments but why do you think handing it over to state government will solve the problem ? Does the state government have grade-a iron ore mines ? Union la vunte ne evadu vinadu, State ki isthe Jaggadu Plots chesi ammestha ? Chandranna Vizag steel lands la IT park kadutha ante ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhaigan Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: Union Government neglect Chesindi. They own the company and they go by their rules. by the way, captive mines lekunda malli 40 years ela run ayindi mari ? It should have been in losses for the last 40 years but that using the case, Do you have any explanation ? company ki eppudu losses anevi vasthayi , since it is PSU they will get bail out packages America lo ayithe private companies kuda bail out packages tisukuntayi, chapter 11 bankruptcy file chesi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, bhaigan said: If it is going into deeper debts just handover the steel plant to State Govt. So this is the conclusion you are coming to if it is not sold it will go into deeper debts ? My conclusion : Its not the era of pubic limited companies. When all these companies were started, there was a need to push for industrialization. Now if you think privatizing will put 18000 jobs in jeopardy, if not done then also it will meet with similar fate, it will run into the risk of going to bankruptcy, then BIFR, restricting and finally lockout and look for potential take overs. At least today RINL has an upgraded plant whose efficiency is very low. It has land bank, why not push for stake sale and invite for private participation and make it a behemoth where more jobs will be created and more commerce will be established. and the self pride and history will still be intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, bhaigan said: company ki eppudu losses anevi vasthayi , since it is PSU they will get bail out packages America lo ayithe private companies kuda bail out packages tisukuntayi, chapter 11 bankruptcy file chesi Hehe..Bail out packages zamana poindi. India la bailout packages lantivi vundavu. Operating margins and expenditure kuda rakapothey only option is lock out. Previously financial packages announce chesetollu, Air India was beneficiary but that's it. America lo istaru ante, america economy size alantidi... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 @bhaigan Have you seen a state government in India taking over a PSU ? Have you seen bail out packages by Government ? Government assurance tho banks valla finance infuse chesinaru ae thappa, package antu evadu iyadu. State Govt ki management transfer chesthe, Imagine Jaggadu or CBN, pandikokkulaaga tinestaru. They will use used for electoral gains...like inti inti ki visaka ukku...mee inti ki visa ukku..adapaduchu ki steel binde..now do you expect a company to thrive in such politcal situation ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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