Compensate Andhra Pradesh and tamil nadu for loss of parliament seats - Madras High court to center

[Ryzen_renoir]

Chennai: Tamil Nadu has faced "unfair" political representation in the Lok Sabha since 1962 after the state managed to successfully bring down its population, the Madras high court said recently.

In its order passed on August 17, the court asked the centre to see if the Lok Sabha representation of Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh - the other state that has seen a drop in representation in the parliament - be restored, or to see if the two can be compensated monetarily. The court pegged the monetary compensation to Tamil Nadu at Rs 5,600 crore.

"Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh lost 2 Lok Sabha seats after they effectively controlled population. Why states which could not successfully implement population benefits with more representation in Parliament? Why not compensate these states with equal Rajya Sabha states," the bench of Justices N Kirubakaran and B Pugalendhi asked. Justice Kirubakaran retired a few days ago.

Till 1962, Tamil Nadu had 41 Lok Sabha members. The state's Lok Sabha representation was reduced to 39 ahead of the 1967 general polls after it successfully controlled its population growth.

"Notionally, the contribution of a Member of Parliament in 5 years could be taken at least as Rs.200 crores, though it cannot be determined monetarily. Therefore for every election, Tamil Nadu should be compensated with a sum of. Rs.400 crores for reduction of 2 political representatives. If that is so,  Tamil Nadu has to get the compensation for the loss of two seats in 14 elections, viz.,28 seats, which amounts to approximately Rs.5,600 crores, the bench said. 

The court also directed the centre to see if Article 81 can be amended to maintain the same number of parliamentary constituencies irrespective of change in the population of the respective states.

The matter has been listed for further consideration in four weeks.

[NiranjanGaaru]

Good post, I support this

[Raven_Rayes]

lol. what is this joke.

[Ryzen_renoir]

2 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

lol. what is this joke.

Why not ? These states are punished for effectively implementing a policy of union government  

Besides the talk of increasing lok sabha seats to 800-900 is already around the corner . Whatever little  representation they already have will come even further down

[Raven_Rayes]

4 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Why not ? These states are punished for effectively implementing a policy of union government  

Besides the talk of increasing lok sabha seats to 800-900 is already around the corner . Whatever little  representation they already have will come even further down

so compensation of 5000cr is enough to offset loss of representation in the union?

ideally, they should ask for more autonomy from the union, including a veto power on foreign relations with their immediate neighbours.

India should move towards a union like EU. There's no other solution to this.

[Ryzen_renoir]

5 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

so compensation of 5000cr is enough to offset loss of representation in the union?

ideally, they should ask for more autonomy from the union, including a veto power on foreign relations with their immediate neighbours.

India should move towards a union like EU. There's no other solution to this.

Sets a legal precedent for further such actions , madras High court is pretty independent of center unlike other  high courtrs 

[Raven_Rayes]

5 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Sets a legal precedent for further such actions , madras High court is pretty independent of center unlike other  high courtrs 

okay.

its time to start talking about state income taxation powers. Start with first allowing states to collect GST with their own networks.

representation in the union is not such a big problem in the long run, since even Hindi belt states will achieve South Indian fertility rates in about couple decades.

key is autonomy. especially financial autonomy.

[Ryzen_renoir]

12 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

okay.

its time to start talking about state income taxation powers. Start with first allowing states to collect GST with their own networks.

representation in the union is not such a big problem in the long run, since even Hindi belt states will achieve South Indian fertility rates in about couple decades.

key is autonomy. especially financial autonomy.

Definetly , centers share of taxes should be further reduced to 15-25% which covers mostly the military and external affairs . 

These Additional taxes should go to local bodies.

[DesiPokiri]

48 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Chennai: Tamil Nadu has faced "unfair" political representation in the Lok Sabha since 1962 after the state managed to successfully bring down its population, the Madras high court said recently.

In its order passed on August 17, the court asked the centre to see if the Lok Sabha representation of Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh - the other state that has seen a drop in representation in the parliament - be restored, or to see if the two can be compensated monetarily. The court pegged the monetary compensation to Tamil Nadu at Rs 5,600 crore.

"Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh lost 2 Lok Sabha seats after they effectively controlled population. Why states which could not successfully implement population benefits with more representation in Parliament? Why not compensate these states with equal Rajya Sabha states," the bench of Justices N Kirubakaran and B Pugalendhi asked. Justice Kirubakaran retired a few days ago.

Till 1962, Tamil Nadu had 41 Lok Sabha members. The state's Lok Sabha representation was reduced to 39 ahead of the 1967 general polls after it successfully controlled its population growth.

"Notionally, the contribution of a Member of Parliament in 5 years could be taken at least as Rs.200 crores, though it cannot be determined monetarily. Therefore for every election, Tamil Nadu should be compensated with a sum of. Rs.400 crores for reduction of 2 political representatives. If that is so,  Tamil Nadu has to get the compensation for the loss of two seats in 14 elections, viz.,28 seats, which amounts to approximately Rs.5,600 crores, the bench said. 

The court also directed the centre to see if Article 81 can be amended to maintain the same number of parliamentary constituencies irrespective of change in the population of the respective states.

The matter has been listed for further consideration in four weeks.

Baa matter in 2 lines plz. Peg vesa understand 

[Ryzen_renoir]

1 minute ago, DesiPokiri said:

Baa matter in 2 lines plz. Peg vesa understand 

Pay money to AP/TN for decrease in lok sabha seats due to population control

[Raven_Rayes]

14 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Definetly , centers share of taxes should be further reduced to 15-25% which covers mostly the military and external affairs . 

These Additional taxes should go to local bodies.

initially yes. But ultimately Union needn't have any direct taxation powers. How it should be funded is something I haven't completely thought through.. hehe.. but there are better ways of running an union... completely different from how US/EUrope/China are run.

India should experiment with different governance models, and not blindly follow someone.

[james_pond]

1 hour ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Chennai: Tamil Nadu has faced "unfair" political representation in the Lok Sabha since 1962 after the state managed to successfully bring down its population, the Madras high court said recently.

In its order passed on August 17, the court asked the centre to see if the Lok Sabha representation of Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh - the other state that has seen a drop in representation in the parliament - be restored, or to see if the two can be compensated monetarily. The court pegged the monetary compensation to Tamil Nadu at Rs 5,600 crore.

"Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh lost 2 Lok Sabha seats after they effectively controlled population. Why states which could not successfully implement population benefits with more representation in Parliament? Why not compensate these states with equal Rajya Sabha states," the bench of Justices N Kirubakaran and B Pugalendhi asked. Justice Kirubakaran retired a few days ago.

Till 1962, Tamil Nadu had 41 Lok Sabha members. The state's Lok Sabha representation was reduced to 39 ahead of the 1967 general polls after it successfully controlled its population growth.

"Notionally, the contribution of a Member of Parliament in 5 years could be taken at least as Rs.200 crores, though it cannot be determined monetarily. Therefore for every election, Tamil Nadu should be compensated with a sum of. Rs.400 crores for reduction of 2 political representatives. If that is so,  Tamil Nadu has to get the compensation for the loss of two seats in 14 elections, viz.,28 seats, which amounts to approximately Rs.5,600 crores, the bench said. 

The court also directed the centre to see if Article 81 can be amended to maintain the same number of parliamentary constituencies irrespective of change in the population of the respective states.

The matter has been listed for further consideration in four weeks.

ee madras highcourt vodu ekada kottaalo akkada kodtaru 😂

[Mr Mirchi]

Supreme court kanna madras high court ye supreme court la vundhi e madhya..good

[Kool_SRG]

14 minutes ago, Mr Mirchi said:

Supreme court kanna madras high court ye supreme court la vundhi e madhya..good

Edayina stay order kaavalante mundhu madras high court ki pothe pakka ga vasthadhi...

[Abhagyudu]

8 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

so compensation of 5000cr is enough to offset loss of representation in the union?

ideally, they should ask for more autonomy from the union, including a veto power on foreign relations with their immediate neighbours.

India should move towards a union like EU. There's no other solution to this.

Agreed..india should become something in the lines of EU.. at least us lo states kunna rights kuda lekapoye India lo