Raven_Rayes Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, quickgun_murugun said: Nope. US is far better bro bro, don't say pointless sh1t bro. what's 'better' bro? US top schools gives admissions based on even more bs, like 'extracurricular' activities, along with SAT scores. India is way better bro. what does the US schools do if all kids applying have an appearance at the UN (like greta thunberg) in their resume. Their admission process is that subjective. stop talking crap bro Quote
Telugodura456 Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, hunkyfunky2 said: That is not reservation - a private university trying to help minorities and other students. Thats just one university and I know most good universities do this or provide financial assistance --nothing wrong with that. Where is reservation? Show me constitution amendment or document - or stop responding. I was talking about solutions to the issue - blanket % wise reservations in jobs/promotions per law. A private university there has enough morals to help. In india the oppressive castes will ruthlessly crush if they got a chance. How many sc/st/obc people you see in army officers/media/private corporates ? do you think these people are capable of treating them fairly. Also in india skills have always been with working classes. The exploitative classes had only bogus skills - like rubbish mantras, quackery like philosophy/ kingdoms they almost always lost to every foreign invader/exploitative traders who may trade for centuries but never make a single product. Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, hunkyfunky2 said: That is not reservation - a private university trying to help minorities and other students. Thats just one university and I know most good universities do this or provide financial assistance --nothing wrong with that. Where is reservation? Show me constitution amendment or document - or stop responding. I was talking about solutions to the issue - blanket % wise reservations in jobs/promotions per law. you are just changing goalposts because just like your guru RGV, you don't know what you are talking about. why should anyone show you a constituional decree on reservation in the US? lol. when US was founded, it was not its guiding principle, duh! India was found in very different circumstances. with just 2% of them having been educated and holding obscene level of social and institutional power. Quote
Sheri Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 7 hours ago, hunkyfunky2 said: Convince me why you need reservations even in promotions...you got free education, got seat without working hard , got a job without merit ...lazily enjoying the benefits of reservations.. Now that you got a job, you get promoted ahead of others..who has to work hard...and no one can say anything against you for the fear of sc/st act. And you become the boss of a hard working employee.... Wow.. Just wow... Rest of 200 countries are missing a lot 🙂 Brain guddalo unda saale.. Oke kulam vallu merit merit antu oke team/project/company/organization lo unte vere vallanu raanisthara? Boss gaadu upper caste vaadu ayyi, subordinate gaadu lower caste vaadu ayithe promotion ki recommend chesthadara? 1 Quote
hunkyfunky2 Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 Obviously reservation holders can come up with 100 BS reasons to justify them...even Ambedkar said 10 years only and that too only for SC/ST. They were never supposed to be > 50% but now we are at a situation where a topper can't get admission. You don't have balls to accept that is wrong. /Over and out and not replying back . 1 Quote
Pavanonline Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 11 hours ago, Pulkapresident said: For college admissions, they don't use the word affirmative action because they get in trouble. They use the word "holistic admission process" to hire minorities. If you're curious compare the SAT and ACT scores of white vs Asian vs black vs Latino. No kidding That’s what I’m saying what they’re doing is illegal and your comparison to Indian reservation system is ridiculous. 1 Quote
Pavanonline Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 11 hours ago, vidhya said: Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but not to their own facts. caste is real, caste based discrimination is real. it's neither selective to villages or praticular regions. And reservation is of ocure a reverse discrimination, as an affirmative action against oppressive caste rigme. And it is one oart of the solution, not the only solution. Change has to come from within, people have to change, unitl that doesn't happen, reservations are here to stay. And if talking about this is petty, so be it 🤷♀️ True, no one disagrees with it. Again and again you agree reservations don't do anything to solve the problem. Current reservation system is a utter failure, that is a fact. Otherwise they would be decreasing not increasing. Reservations are here to stay that I agree albeit for different reasons. 1 Quote
Pavanonline Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 11 hours ago, Pulkapresident said: You're citing random judgements and making a statement that doesn't convey a point. NASA is a federal organization, all federal employers at NASA (all levels of GS pay scale, are subject to affirmative action. https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/hiring/affirmativeact Lol scotus judgement ni random ante Inka evarem cheptaru neeku. Affirmative action is when candidates of near equal qualifications are being considered then race can be a factor in taking deciding between them. And it’s not a hard rule with percentages, it’s subjective. What you are saying is institutions are going around this. That makes it wrong not right. There is no comparison to Indian reservation system. Reservations are necessary in India as it’s a different society but the implementation is horribly wrong. Ever increasing reservations are a proof it’s not working. They are like applying bandaid for gunshot wound. 1 Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Pavanonline said: Lol scotus judgement ni random ante Inka evarem cheptaru neeku. Affirmative action is when candidates of near equal qualifications are being considered then race can be a factor in taking deciding between them. And it’s not a hard rule with percentages, it’s subjective. What you are saying is institutions are going around this. That makes it wrong not right. There is no comparison to Indian reservation system. Reservations are necessary in India as it’s a different society but the implementation is horribly wrong. Ever increasing reservations are a proof it’s not working. They are like applying bandaid for gunshot wound. dude, what are you even arguing about? Affirmative action doesn't mean what you say it does. if reservations are not working, then what is your workaround? ask your fav sanghi govt to take caste census and present it in the public domain. and work towards building an alternative to reservations, if they can. Quote
quickgun_murugun Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 11 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said: bro, don't say pointless sh1t bro. what's 'better' bro? US top schools gives admissions based on even more bs, like 'extracurricular' activities, along with SAT scores. India is way better bro. what does the US schools do if all kids applying have an appearance at the UN (like greta thunberg) in their resume. Their admission process is that subjective. stop talking crap bro Nenu cheppindi Govt jobs vishayam lo bro. Nuvvu visham kakkaku bro. every country has its best and worst things bro. Ofcourse India lo aa population ki the government is providing lot of opportunities for people to progress ! thars great thing for any democracy Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, quickgun_murugun said: Nenu cheppindi Govt jobs vishayam lo bro. Nuvvu visham kakkaku bro. every country has its best and worst things bro. Ofcourse India lo aa population ki the government is providing lot of opportunities for people to progress ! thars great thing for any democracy em bro, mathi m lekunda maatladthunnav. Federal jobs lo affirmative action ledha? nenu visham kakkuthunnana? nuvvu deni gurinchi maatladthunnam ani telikunda nay citizenship undhi ani random sollu chepthunnava? choosko US lo close to 40% of applicants to universities lie about being native american. enduku antaav bro? Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 5 hours ago, hunkyfunky2 said: Obviously reservation holders can come up with 100 BS reasons to justify them...even Ambedkar said 10 years only and that too only for SC/ST. They were never supposed to be > 50% but now we are at a situation where a topper can't get admission. You don't have balls to accept that is wrong. /Over and out and not replying back . ilanti chethha ki reply ivvatam kooda waste. ambedkar didn't say anything like that. random top ranker (not topper) can't get into one particular specilization in MD, so it means entire reservation has failed.. lol. this is the childish argument you are making and you expect people to respect this sh1t. Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, quickgun_murugun said: Ofcourse India lo aa population ki the government is providing lot of opportunities for people to progress ! thars great thing for any democracy india has about 2-3% of its workforce working for the govt. US has close to 15%. Indians daanikey edusthunnaru. nuvvu nannu visham kakkuthunna antunnav. neeku brain aithey ledhu, kaneesam g mooskoni undaala ani sense anna techuko. Quote
quickgun_murugun Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: india has about 2-3% of its workforce working for the govt. US has close to 15%. Indians daanikey edusthunnaru. nuvvu nannu visham kakkuthunna antunnav. neeku brain aithey ledhu, kaneesam g mooskoni undaala ani sense anna techuko. Nuvvu velli G tho food teesko. Nuvvu nee edupugottu kathalu Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, quickgun_murugun said: Nuvvu velli G tho food teesko. Nuvvu nee edupugottu kathalu nuvvu G tho aalochisthunnav ani naaku telusu. andaru alaa cheyyaru. matter lekunda disco loki enduku osthav ra howle ga. Quote
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