jet engine technology

[baabaa]

1 minute ago, jaathiratnalu said:

Agree 

But Manavallu ( Not all, Sine of them ) thinks that Amaravathi capitals issue as big as China/ PAK issues

I was laughing when Amaravati issue was clubbed together with Kashmir/China/Poverty in India. 
Yes, it’s an issue but a state/regional issue.

[jaathiratnalu]

8 minutes ago, baabaa said:

I was laughing when Amaravati issue was clubbed together with Kashmir/China/Poverty in India. 
Yes, it’s an issue but a state/regional issue.

Aha you did not get my point . Sone of Manavallu thinks that it is same issue as other eg, eenadu, ABN and Chibn and most the pulkas( not alll) followers are following it .

over to @Android_HaIwa

[futureofandhra]

35 minutes ago, jaathiratnalu said:

Agree 

But Manavallu ( Not all, Sine of them ) thinks that Amaravathi capitals issue as big as China/ PAK issues

world is so much big than that small % u r claiming about is nothing

bad apples are everywhere 

 

 

[chammakchandra]

3 hours ago, ntr2lokesh said:

Please make CBN as PM

That is possible only if pokey is cm right 

[sarvayogi]

4 hours ago, futureofandhra said:

not many countries have it

india lagging by ages

arey 2 trains guddukuni track meeda padite third train aagali anna minimum common sense leni chota 

endira nuvvu nee loveda jet technology

[futureofandhra]

29 minutes ago, sarvayogi said:

arey 2 trains guddukuni track meeda padite third train aagali anna minimum common sense leni chota 

endira nuvvu nee loveda jet technology

adhey desam lo isro vundhi

em thinking man needhi 

[bharathicement]

23 minutes ago, futureofandhra said:

adhey desam lo isro vundhi

em thinking man needhi 

ISRO in Space industry is like cheap and nasty WITCH companies in IT industry.

ISRO just does satellite launching for a fee for the countries who cannot afford on their own.

You can imagine what is going there. 

For some people, WITCH companies are great, if you think in real terms they are just mestris of India.

[telugu_fan]

4 hours ago, futureofandhra said:

not many countries have it

india lagging by ages

Bhayya, with open source the countries that can produce their own engines are US, France, UK , Russia and soon to be joined by China. If UK continues in the same way as it is now, it will soon loose that position.

Countries make the engine due to many factors -industrialization, funds available for research and ofcourse espionage and reverse engineering. It was UK that helped Soviets with engine tech after the WW2. When all these countrries had a level of industrialization and looking to rebuild after WW2, India just got independence and its priorities were different. Not spending money for engine R&D.

India is not ages behind, it is probably 10-15 years behind. The Kaveri engine for tejas pretty much meet their original dry thrust requirements, but fall short of wet thrust (the thrust when after burner is engaged) by about 10-15%. The thrust is produced by cannot be sustained, so they had to work on metallurgy and the coated fan blades in the hot section which were breaking up during sustained usage of after burner needs to be addressed.

If India wants to get a good engine tech, they will not get it from other countries. they will need to put up a engine test facility and a dedicated multi engine aircraft from which they can get data and keep refining it.

 

 

[futureofandhra]

3 minutes ago, bharathicement said:

ISRO in Space industry is like cheap and nasty WITCH companies in IT industry.

ISRO just does satellite launching for a fee for the countries who cannot afford on their own.

You can imagine what is going there. 

For some people, WITCH companies are great, if you think in real terms they are just mestris of India.

ya andhukey mars meedhaki research ki vellara 

isro is lot better than many space agencies

do not compare apple n orange

isro is not just service organization it does research too 

 

[bharathicement]

17 minutes ago, telugu_fan said:

Bhayya, with open source the countries that can produce their own engines are US, France, UK , Russia and soon to be joined by China. If UK continues in the same way as it is now, it will soon loose that position.

 

 

 

Not anytime soon. UK being a NATO's second most powerful party after USA, and being a Permanent member of UN-SC..they are still somehow maintaining their position in Defense exports industry. 

Proof: The following US based and EU based defense companies all have, not sales office, but full pledged R&D and also full pledged manufacturing sites in the UK.

1. BAE Systems PLC

2.  Lockheed Martin Corporation

3. Raytheon Technologies Corporation

4.  Airbus SE

5.  Babcock International Group PLC

6.  MBDA

7.  QinetiQ Group PLC

8.  Ultra Electronics Holdings PLC

9. Northrop Grumman Corporation

10.  L3Harris Technologies Inc.

11.  The Boeing Company

12.  Thales Group

13.  Leonardo SpA

14.  General Dynamics Corporation

15.  HENSOLDT AG

 

My friend is working in General Dynamics and he said they have budgets for next 10 years. Northrop Grumman had partnered with University of Leicester for making a very essential component of James Webb Telescope.

 

But yes I agree, general standards of living in the UK have drastically fallen down since last 2 years and cost of living is the only thing going up in the UK.

[telugu_fan]

11 minutes ago, bharathicement said:

Not anytime soon. UK being a NATO's second most powerful party after USA, and being a Permanent member of UN-SC..they are still somehow maintaining their position in Defense exports industry. 

Proof: The following US based and EU based defense companies all have, not sales office, but full pledged R&D and also full pledged manufacturing sites in the UK.

1. BAE Systems PLC

2.  Lockheed Martin Corporation

3. Raytheon Technologies Corporation

4.  Airbus SE

5.  Babcock International Group PLC

6.  MBDA

7.  QinetiQ Group PLC

8.  Ultra Electronics Holdings PLC

9. Northrop Grumman Corporation

10.  L3Harris Technologies Inc.

11.  The Boeing Company

12.  Thales Group

13.  Leonardo SpA

14.  General Dynamics Corporation

15.  HENSOLDT AG

 

My friend is working in General Dynamics and he said they have budgets for next 10 years. Northrop Grumman had partnered with University of Leicester for making a very essential component of James Webb Telescope.

 

But yes I agree, general standards of living in the UK have drastically fallen down since last 2 years and cost of living is the only thing going up in the UK.

Bro,

you are misunderstanding the crux of my argument with respect to UK. India also has Boeing and other subsidiaries of other defense companies working in collaboration with DRDO, HAL or even the private companies like TATA and Mahindras. But all of this doesn't result in developing own tech like the rocket engines. having subsidiaries in your country doesn't guarantee the tech ownership of the new tech developed. 

From a tech perspective, after WW2, UK had their own fighter jets with associated engine and armament tech within the UK. They even had what was then cutting edge space tech (rocket engines) which soon got wound down. Now UK doesn't have any space engine tech or at least isn't a front runner in it because it has outsourced it to the US after joining NATO. The country that made tornado, gnat jets by itself now has a Euro fighter in collaboration with many countries where the tech developed will be with the parent company and not necessarily with the UK defense dept.

Right now they have Roll royce engine tech which is trying to partner with India for the next engine -essentially they want India to put money for R&D and will share some part of the IP. in the absence of that they will have to search for another partner or wind down the program.

So a country that had good defense base untill after WW2 is slowly and steadily loosing its edge in quite a few techs. Jet Engine could also join the list soon is what i am trying to say in the absence of funds, which UK doesn't seem to have right now.