Developers over valued ba. PM is the real deal

[Telugodura456]

Every system is now so easy to code.

Yemundhi development lo thokka. Scoping, management, maturity unna PM is much more mportant now.

[Thokkalee]

when you say PM, are you referring to a project manager or an engineering manager? 

[veerigadu]

Just now, Thokkalee said:

when you say PM, are you referring to a project manager or an engineering manager? 

scoping and management annaduuu gaaa...Its Project manager

Design anteee engineering anukovacchuuu

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, Thokkalee said:

when you say PM, are you referring to a project manager or an engineering manager? 

Project manager. they need to make quick compromises, priotization etc. It is far more valuable. Market will soon recogznie it .

 

[veerigadu]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

Project manager. they need to make quick compromises, priotization etc. It is far more valuable. Market will soon recogznie it .

 

PM field has its own shortcomings. Agile vacchakaaa....Typical PM role is not the same. Most scrum teams are self-managed. 

[Telugodura456]

Just now, veerigadu said:

PM field has its own shortcomings. Agile vacchakaaa....Typical PM role is not the same. Most scrum teams are self-managed. 

yes. saaga thistha untaaru scrum team develpers. Okka issue meedha vaaral and varaal.

Unless a Program manager or project manager intervens and sets priorities, challenges them on why and what their development is.

[veerigadu]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

yes. saaga thistha untaaru scrum team develpers. Okka issue meedha vaaral and varaal.

Unless a Program manager or project manager intervens and sets priorities, challenges them on why and what their development is.

Technical knowledge leni thella PM gallakiii stars supistharuuu manollu....Since they dont understand what the work really entails. Its good to have some level of coding experience even if you are a full time PM. Direct PM ayithe adukuntaruuuu janaluuuu

[Telugodura456]

Just now, veerigadu said:

Technical knowledge leni thella PM gallakiii stars supistharuuu manollu....Since they dont understand what the work really entails. Its good to have some level of coding experience even if you are a full time PM. Direct PM ayithe adukuntaruuuu janaluuuu

Ofcourse i meant a skiled PM not some guy who is there due to some other reasons.

Last 10 years devs got overvalues because ther was a learning curve. Now tech oriented PM will be valued a lot more.

[veerigadu]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

Ofcourse i meant a skiled PM not some guy who is there due to some other reasons.

Last 10 years devs got overvalues because ther was a learning curve. Now tech oriented PM will be valued a lot more.

True. 

[Kootami]

Okasari prod lo issues vastey PM will fix it immediately or will use chatgpt to fix it 🤣

[veerigadu]

2 minutes ago, Kootami said:

Okasari prod lo issues vastey PM will fix it immediately or will use chatgpt to fix it 🤣

If he knows intricate details about project. He will know what the exact issue is. Delegate to responsible person and get it done ba....Simple. Technically sound PM ki no issues

[sarvayogi]

endi PM ante meetings la kurchuni ya ya antadu..devops ki mlops ki difference telvadu

frontend ante front la undedi..backend ante back lo untadi..middleware ante edo middle middle lo untadi..

I will start email chain, I will create slack channel.

ee mahanubhavudu gurinchena?

[Kootami]

7 minutes ago, veerigadu said:

If he knows intricate details about project. He will know what the exact issue is. Delegate to responsible person and get it done ba....Simple. Technically sound PM ki no issues

Yeah Kani business dev telling dev always critical than anybody on the team

[Thokkalee]

27 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Project manager. they need to make quick compromises, priotization etc. It is far more valuable. Market will soon recogznie it .

Engineering managers - I agree. Project managers are just paper pushers. They are more like glorified secretaries that takes notes and send emails. 

[Telugodura456]

Just now, Thokkalee said:

Engineering managers - I agree. Project managers are just paper pushers. They are more like glorified secretaries that takes notes and send emails. 

you will realize when you see a good one. The value they bring is tremendous. They can save weeks worth of wasted effort by de-priotizing some junk or talking to clients to change the requirements and give them some options.