Oppenheimer is a master piece.❤️❤️❤️❤️

[Thokkalee]

3 hours ago, veerigadu said:

Nolan had no room for fiction. This movie is based on a book. Oppenheimer is a very controversial charecter. Until the end of world war 2, vomerica was just like any other bokadia country. Their nuclear weapon on Hiroshima and Nagasaki made everyone afraid of vomerica. It started an era of vometican dominion around the world. Also Until then bombs were only aimed at army bases. But for the first time, vonerica took a dirty route of killing over 250k civilians in Japan. It was an unprecedented situation. 
 

Also, even today he is never praised as a typical American hero despite his greatest contributions to this country. 
 

He is a genius. He got this project completed before Nazis made a break through. Hypothetically Nazis would have destroyed the world if they succeeded. Yet he is not perfect as a human. he was a womanizer. He was an unconventional patriot. He was not an abnoxious chest beating patriot of vomerica. He had a hell of regrets after invention of this atomic bomb. He regretted everyday and felt responsible for giving this power to ruthless politicians. Typical entertainment lens to susthe ardham kadhu eee cinema. It’s a conflict of emotions of a man who is not only a genius but also very much radical in his ideology. Russians helped Jews more. They helped in the war against Nazis. He indeed had softcorner for Russia for helping his people. He was in constant conflict through out his life. 
 

Lastly, Oppenheimer and his team gave power to humans. The ability to destroy the world. The power that only God had until then. He is both praised and criticized everyday.

Nazis didn’t give the German scientists the money and man power to build a nuclear weapon.. they didn’t have enough man power as most of them are involved in the war and other weapon’s research… it was all in the theory stage.. Americans even tried to kill Heisenberg for being involved in that research.. 

[veerigadu]

1 hour ago, Telugodura456 said:

yes soviets (bot just russian) were the one who liberated auswitz and all those jew death camps. I thought it was done by americans and brits thanks to hollywood movies.

What is radical in that ?

It’s not a coincidence that his ex gf, brother, brothers wife and his own wife kitty all happened to be associated with communist party ba. It is a known fact that communist party of America had connections with soviet back in the day. He is a radical intellectual. His ideology did not align with vomerica and its political climate. Yet he needed vonerica and vice versa. 

[veerigadu]

7 minutes ago, Thokkalee said:

Nazis didn’t give the German scientists the money and man power to build a nuclear weapon.. they didn’t have enough man power as most of them are involved in the war and other weapon’s research… it was all in the theory stage.. Americans even tried to kill Heisenberg for being involved in that research.. 

Yes. Heisenberg was considered to be way smarter than Oppenheimer. His knowledge of atomic physics was by far better than oppie. Hitler did not see this merit in his own country men. 

[Thokkalee]

What is ironic with the Americans is that - they portray how tough it was for the people involved, the emotional baggage they carried,  how sad they felt, blah blah blah.. but at the end of the day, they put a bomb knowing very well that it would basically kill everyone in that highly populated city..

even after seeing the destruction the bomb caused, they didn’t stop and again put another bomb on Japan killing more than 200K people.. lucky (??) enough for Japanese that they made only two bombs at that time.. 

there were many other options like bombing an empty island or a less populated place which demonstrated the bomb capability and scare the Japanese enough for them to surrender.. 

[veerigadu]

3 minutes ago, Thokkalee said:

What is ironic with the Americans is that - they portray how tough it was for the people involved, the emotional baggage they carried,  how sad they felt, blah blah blah.. but at the end of the day, they put a bomb knowing very well that it would basically kill everyone in that highly populated city..

even after seeing the destruction the bomb caused, they didn’t stop and again put another bomb on Japan killing more than 200K people.. lucky (??) enough for Japanese that they made only two bombs at that time.. 

there were many other options like bombing an empty island or a less populated place which demonstrated the bomb capability and scare the Japanese enough for them to surrender.. 

Despite they didn’t stop their research in developing weapons. In 1953 vonerica successfully developed hydrogen bomb. It is way powerful than the predecessor 

[Thokkalee]

3 minutes ago, veerigadu said:

Despite they didn’t stop their research in developing weapons. In 1953 vonerica successfully developed hydrogen bomb. It is way powerful than the predecessor 

Immediately Cold War start ayyindi gaa… also Russians also built their nuclear bombs after the world war.. 

It is okay to develop weapons as long as they use it as a deterrent.. but using a WMD on civilians knowing very well how much of a destruction it causes is terrible.. 

[veerigadu]

Just now, Thokkalee said:

Immediately Cold War start ayyindi gaa… also Russians also built their nuclear bombs after the world war.. 

It is okay to develop weapons as long as they use it as a deterrent.. but using a WMD on civilians knowing very well how much of a destruction it causes is terrible.. 

There is blood on vomerica’s hands. There is no doubt about it.
 

Killing Japanese civilians is an inexcusable offense. It’s a war crime.

 

But the interpretation is always skewed and biased. It always shows vomerica in a positive light. 

[Telugodura456]

26 minutes ago, Thokkalee said:

What is ironic with the Americans is that - they portray how tough it was for the people involved, the emotional baggage they carried,  how sad they felt, blah blah blah.. but at the end of the day, they put a bomb knowing very well that it would basically kill everyone in that highly populated city..

even after seeing the destruction the bomb caused, they didn’t stop and again put another bomb on Japan killing more than 200K people.. lucky (??) enough for Japanese that they made only two bombs at that time.. 

there were many other options like bombing an empty island or a less populated place which demonstrated the bomb capability and scare the Japanese enough for them to surrender.. 

samething in afghan war. The guy sits in an airconditioned room with a coke bottle in hand and shoots children there using a drone. Media focus is not on the children dead but the "emotional trauma", "guilt" this guy went through.

But they dominate all platforms of media so their side gets the megaphone.

[shaktimaan]

14 minutes ago, veerigadu said:

Killing Japanese civilians is an inexcusable offense. It’s a war crime

Even after the war was lost Japanese would not surrender no matter what. US wanted to invade but withdrew because there would be mass casualties on both sides. Yes, it’s not right but was justified at that time. 
 

Read about Japanese atrocities during ww2. Even nazis and SS were afraid of them. 

[Telugodura456]

3 minutes ago, shaktimaan said:

Even after the war was lost Japanese would not surrender no matter what. US wanted to invade but withdrew because there would be mass casualties on both sides. Yes, it’s not right but was justified at that time. 
 

Read about Japanese atrocities during ww2. Even nazis and SS were afraid of them. 

Japanese were horrible. But right after war - both us and japanese allied in korean war. history must not be viewed through people - people are innocent - but the ideology of the rulers.

[veerigadu]

7 minutes ago, shaktimaan said:

Even after the war was lost Japanese would not surrender no matter what. US wanted to invade but withdrew because there would be mass casualties on both sides. Yes, it’s not right but was justified at that time. 
 

Read about Japanese atrocities during ww2. Even nazis and SS were afraid of them. 

Can we attribute those atrocities to Japanese officers and politicians? I don’t think civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki deserved to be incinerated. 
 

Atleast Russians were better. They only killed Hitler and his associates. They didn’t bomb the whole city of Berlin. 

[shaktimaan]

16 minutes ago, veerigadu said:

Can we attribute those atrocities to Japanese officers and politicians? I don’t think civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki deserved to be incinerated. 
 

Atleast Russians were better. They only killed Hitler and his associates. They didn’t bomb the whole city of Berlin. 

In that way no one in Europe deserved to be killed. Any country in desperate times would not let their citizens die if there’s a way out of it like to bomb cities instead of an invasion. 
 

They wouldn’t drop a bomb to send a message in a mountain region where no one lives. Only few people knew why they did that, maybe because Japan provoked US when they never wanted to be part of the war. 

[AnotherTeluguBidda]

54 minutes ago, veerigadu said:

Can we attribute those atrocities to Japanese officers and politicians? I don’t think civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki deserved to be incinerated. 
 

Atleast Russians were better. They only killed Hitler and his associates. They didn’t bomb the whole city of Berlin. 

Berlin lo chala ghoralu jarigayi ....try to read

[bharathicement]

21 hours ago, veerigadu said:

Agreed ba. Heisenberg charecter ni ekkuva suppinchalsindhi inkaaa. He was a competitor.  he was very much on German side to develop nuclear arsenal as well. After math emotions of Oppenheimer after Hiroshima and Nagasaki was very well captured for sure. 

Haa thats the point. Many Americans themselves have questioned Nolan Mowa regarding this..

He gave an explanation for that -- "Nuclear bomb development from Oppenheimers' eyes. You get to see his eyes through out the movie ".

By the way, many others like Neils Bohr, Enrico Fermi, Albert Einstein were confined to guest apperances.

Also one most IMPORTANT things -- all this was started by a German called OTTO HAHN, (born much before any of these Manhattan Scientists) the world has completely forgotten him just because he had to work under Nazis.

[bharathicement]

1 hour ago, veerigadu said:

Can we attribute those atrocities to Japanese officers and politicians? I don’t think civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki deserved to be incinerated. 
 

Atleast Russians were better. They only killed Hitler and his associates. They didn’t bomb the whole city of Berlin. 

baaaboooii what a wrong statement bro..

Google for "ra-pe of Berlin" and see videos and text..... One of the worst human tragedies happened after Hitler's death. Asalu avi ikkada type cheyyalante kooda cheethuku raavu...

You will get tears if you read the reports or see the videos of what happened to German women after May,1945.

Stalin had to build new factory for condoms and distribute to Russian soldiers, to deal with chexually transmitted diseases. Many German women died due to untreated STDs.

Helmut Kohl's (long running German Chancellor) wife was gang-rafed by a group of Russian soldeirs when she was 12 and thrown from second floor of the building to the ground.

She lived whole life suffering from the worst outcomes