California passes insane bill to take away your kids if you don't "affirm" their gender

[hydusguy]

14 minutes ago, csrcsr said:

Pillalu edi confirm chesthe adi opukokapothe emi chestam anna? You can force niw 18 or 21 tarvtha emi chestaru?

they can take after 21

[Allasaani_Peddana]

3 minutes ago, Tryad said:

That bill doesn't take away your kids.. It just makes gender affirmation part of the custody process, and *can*, not will be one of the criteria on which custody is granted to a parent.

it means that the kid will still end up with one of the parents, not taken away from both the parents.

Santosham.

[Tryad]

Just now, hydusguy said:

they can take after 21

will be too late by then. ideally pre puberty is the best time.

[baabaa]

4 minutes ago, Tryad said:

bill sadavakunda nay annayya post esindu eeda.

republican twitter accounts lo edhi chepthey adhi nammey rakam emo mana anniya.

Republican twitter enti bhayya. Nuvve chuduvuko. If your kid comes home saying he feels like opposite gender and if you refuse then custody issues vastayi. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/california-gender-affirming-bill-controversy-capitol/

 

 

[hydusguy]

4 minutes ago, Tryad said:

will be too late by then. ideally pre puberty is the best time.

how good are laws for trans.. world wide..   i feel they can stuck in US.. cannot go middle east.. not sure

in india not well enough

[Tryad]

meerantha MS saduvukovatam dabbulu waste ra annayyalu.

prathi daaniki oogi pothunnaru matter lekunda.

[Tryad]

Just now, baabaa said:

Republican twitter enti bhayya. Nuvve chuduvuko. If your kid comes home saying he feels like opposite gender and if you refuse then custody issues vastayi. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/california-gender-affirming-bill-controversy-capitol/

senate hearings lo nay undhi ga..

custody issues enduku osthaay, if the parents agree to commit to a process of understanding where the child comes from?

the issue here is that the kid is not safe in a household where one of the parent is hostile to his decision. Why do you think a child should be forced to live in that situation?

[Tryad]

6 minutes ago, hydusguy said:

how good are laws for trans.. world wide..   i feel they can stuck in US.. cannot go middle east.. not sure

US and the west are good enough to get stuck in. he/she can find a way out if they really really want to go to middle east. we can't plan kids future to the last minute anyway. Its the kid's decision.

[baabaa]

2 minutes ago, Tryad said:

senate hearings lo nay undhi ga..

custody issues enduku osthaay, if the parents agree to commit to a process of understanding where the child comes from?

the issue here is that the kid is not safe in a household where one of the parent is hostile to his decision. Why do you think a child should be forced to live in that situation?

At what age can child say what he/she feels like opposite sex? 10 year-11year kid says something like this and if one parent thinks its not correct and is not best for child. Instead of resolving it, state will send police. ee scenario fine aa? 

[Tryad]

parents don't have any special rights on their kids, apart from being caretakers..

lite teeskondi..

if the child is not allowed to choose, it is child abuse.

also first learn about the process.. No one goes under the knife straight away.. It'll take years of counseling to even put the kid on hormone blockers..  and then on hormone therapy. If anything, the process can be sped up, if the parents don't act like assholes on this.

according to research, less than 5% of the kids that  gender transitioned were unhappy about the transition, most likely because of they were perceived in society, and not because of the transition itself.

[baabaa]

1 minute ago, Tryad said:

parents don't have any special rights on their kids, apart from being caretakers..

lite teeskondi..

if the child is not allowed to choose, it is child abuse.

also first learn about the process.. No one goes under the knife straight away.. It'll take years of counseling to even put the kid on hormone blockers..  and then on hormone therapy. If anything, the process can be sped up, if the parents don't act like assholes on this.

according to research, less than 5% of the kids that  gender transitioned were unhappy about the transition, most likely because of they were perceived in society, and not because of the transition itself.

parents don't have any special rights on their kids, apart from being caretakers.. 😮

ee issue lite le kaani.

Bhayya, machi leftist/marxist philosophy needi. Ee ooru manadi just out of curiosity

[ZoomNaidu]

5 minutes ago, baabaa said:

parents don't have any special rights on their kids, apart from being caretakers.. 😮

ee issue lite le kaani.

Bhayya, machi leftist/marxist philosophy needi. Ee ooru manadi just out of curiosity

Thikkavaram ani talk

[Tryad]

1 minute ago, baabaa said:

At what age can child say what he/she feels like opposite sex? 10 year-11year kid says something like this and if one parent thinks its not correct and is not best for child. Instead of resolving it, state will send police. ee scenario fine aa? 

why does the parent think its not correct? that is the question. Its an opportunity to have a conversation and learn where the child comes from, instead of dismissing the child as immature.

no one will be put into hormone therapy the next day, if a child comes home and claims that they feel like the opposite gender.

It is upto you as a family to resolve it. talk it out.

actually even 10, 11 yr old may be too old to start the process of transition, that involves atleast an year of consultation. ideally it should couple years earlier.

the bill may be a little too aggressive, but it is warranted in a system that put child's safety at risk by insisting that the child stay with a parent who is disapproving of a kid's intention to transition.

[Tryad]

6 minutes ago, baabaa said:

parents don't have any special rights on their kids, apart from being caretakers.. 😮

ee issue lite le kaani.

Bhayya, machi leftist/marxist philosophy needi. Ee ooru manadi just out of curiosity

deeniki leftist/marxist ki sambandame ledhu.. lot of leftists will oppose this.. almost all marxists will oppose this.

[Tryad]

6 minutes ago, baabaa said:

parents don't have any special rights on their kids, apart from being caretakers.. 😮

yes legally it is true. inspite of what conservative americans believe.

that's why they have a Child protection service.